2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe Parties pick their nominees as they see fit. Primary voting/caucusing is masturbation
The Republican Party chooses their nominee as they see fit. This year however, they got played by an outsider who has threatened to seriously fuck up their shit if the Party tries to muscle him out. It is yet to be determined how this will play out. They will either tear the Party into pieces, or roll the dice and let their horrible hand play out.
The Democratic Party chooses their nominee for the General Election as they wish as well. They can hold votes, caucuses, coin flips, pie eating contests, or whatever they like. It's how our system is set up. This year an outsider has run against the Party's choice. Fortunately for the Party, apparatus are in place to see that the Party gets what the Party wants while maintaining the illusion that the voter gets a choice.
Outsiders to each Party have no input as to how the game is played. It's an elite club that make up our ruling class, and none of us are in it.
This isn't sour grapes but a great reminder of how the Parties play the game of governing.
"But you've got to vote for our side in the General, so the other side doesn't win". I'm beginning to think that there are other apparatus in place to see that the will of the voters has been removed from that equation as well.
So who chooses the winner from the two sides?
If not the voters, who?
(Note: I am not criticizing the Party. It's their party and they choose the participants. Just as the NFL decides who the teams that get to play on Sunday are. Have you ever heard of a walk-on team from outside the NFL getting to play the Packers on Sunday just because the fans wanted to see it?)
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Safeguards are in place to maintain their control of their Party's nominee (see Super delegates, closed primaries, ...).
It's their right. If I possessed any system, I would want control over it.
CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)pampango
(24,692 posts)done better with Democratic primary voters but it is what it is. I am also surprised that Trump has done as well as he has with republican primary voters but that is what it is also. Outsiders who do well with the party voters win nominations. Those that don't don't.
If the party establishment overrule the voters' preferences in either party, some people will be happy but what does that do to the party in four years when the "crucial" primary season rolls around? How do we motivate our base to participate after the establishment proves this year how "important" their primary participation really is?
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)Et cetera, et cetera.
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