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NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:22 AM Apr 2016

The Parties pick their nominees as they see fit. Primary voting/caucusing is masturbation

The Republican Party chooses their nominee as they see fit. This year however, they got played by an outsider who has threatened to seriously fuck up their shit if the Party tries to muscle him out. It is yet to be determined how this will play out. They will either tear the Party into pieces, or roll the dice and let their horrible hand play out.


The Democratic Party chooses their nominee for the General Election as they wish as well. They can hold votes, caucuses, coin flips, pie eating contests, or whatever they like. It's how our system is set up. This year an outsider has run against the Party's choice. Fortunately for the Party, apparatus are in place to see that the Party gets what the Party wants while maintaining the illusion that the voter gets a choice.

Outsiders to each Party have no input as to how the game is played. It's an elite club that make up our ruling class, and none of us are in it.

This isn't sour grapes but a great reminder of how the Parties play the game of governing.

"But you've got to vote for our side in the General, so the other side doesn't win". I'm beginning to think that there are other apparatus in place to see that the will of the voters has been removed from that equation as well.

So who chooses the winner from the two sides?

If not the voters, who?


(Note: I am not criticizing the Party. It's their party and they choose the participants. Just as the NFL decides who the teams that get to play on Sunday are. Have you ever heard of a walk-on team from outside the NFL getting to play the Packers on Sunday just because the fans wanted to see it?)

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The Parties pick their nominees as they see fit. Primary voting/caucusing is masturbation (Original Post) NightWatcher Apr 2016 OP
It's rigged! bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #1
Did you not read? It's not rigged. It's their system to do as they please. NightWatcher Apr 2016 #5
The Dem "outsider" would have won.... if more people voted for him. CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #2
Exactly. Just as the republican 'outsider' has done. Frankly I am surprised that my guy has not pampango Apr 2016 #7
It's smoke and mirrors. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #4
A short but interesting view of the Super Delegate roles people play...Snopes AuntPatsy Apr 2016 #6

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
5. Did you not read? It's not rigged. It's their system to do as they please.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:33 AM
Apr 2016

Safeguards are in place to maintain their control of their Party's nominee (see Super delegates, closed primaries, ...).

It's their right. If I possessed any system, I would want control over it.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
7. Exactly. Just as the republican 'outsider' has done. Frankly I am surprised that my guy has not
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:39 AM
Apr 2016

done better with Democratic primary voters but it is what it is. I am also surprised that Trump has done as well as he has with republican primary voters but that is what it is also. Outsiders who do well with the party voters win nominations. Those that don't don't.

If the party establishment overrule the voters' preferences in either party, some people will be happy but what does that do to the party in four years when the "crucial" primary season rolls around? How do we motivate our base to participate after the establishment proves this year how "important" their primary participation really is?

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