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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAn interesting take on Devine and Weaver.
Josh Marshall:
Devine is a long time party insider. He's been running Democratic campaigns for decades and actually played key role in creating the super delegate system back in the early 1980s. Weaver meanwhile, as far as I know, has only ever worked in politics for Bernie Sanders. He's run his campaigns, was actually his campaign driver at one point way back when; he ran his House and Senate offices.
These days when he's not running Bernie's campaigns he runs a comic book store in DC. Really. That's not snark. He has a comic book store in DC. So this is very much eye of the beholder. Is Devine someone with a bit more perspective of what's at stake in November, a bit more rein on his emotions and a bit less inclined to blow up the Democratic party if his candidate doesn't win? Or is he a Democratic party guy who wants to be running campaigns in the future, regardless of what happens with Sanders' 'Revolution'? Again, eye of the beholder.
So I suspect there is some cleavage here. And in any case, if Weaver's a Bernie before everything loyalist and not used to being on TV, that might be a reason not to have him on TV. Regardless, some good insight into how campaigns works.
These days when he's not running Bernie's campaigns he runs a comic book store in DC. Really. That's not snark. He has a comic book store in DC. So this is very much eye of the beholder. Is Devine someone with a bit more perspective of what's at stake in November, a bit more rein on his emotions and a bit less inclined to blow up the Democratic party if his candidate doesn't win? Or is he a Democratic party guy who wants to be running campaigns in the future, regardless of what happens with Sanders' 'Revolution'? Again, eye of the beholder.
So I suspect there is some cleavage here. And in any case, if Weaver's a Bernie before everything loyalist and not used to being on TV, that might be a reason not to have him on TV. Regardless, some good insight into how campaigns works.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/pity-the-poor-weaver
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An interesting take on Devine and Weaver. (Original Post)
kstewart33
Apr 2016
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)1. They put the "fun" in dysfunctional.
FSogol
(45,485 posts)2. Worst campaign manager ever
KoKo
(84,711 posts)3. I think both Weaver and Devine have done a great job..
Weaver is great because he isn't the usual slick campaign manager who gives you a bunch of pre-rehearsed Talking Points and he holds his own against the media questioners. Also, Devine, who like Weaver, doesn't give the same BS "TP's" over and over comes off as a genuinely nice down to earth guy.
So, link this from one of Josh's posters was a good read, although I didn't quite get what he was trying to point out...except how different their roles are in the campaign...which is as it should be.
Chezboo
(230 posts)4. Interesting the focus on Devine is on
the comic book store with no mention that he teaches at NYU.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)5. Weaver runs the Comic Book Store when not managing Bernies Campaigns...
And, yes, Devine teaches at NYU.
Chezboo
(230 posts)7. I misread that 2 times
but see it now. Sorry.
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Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)6. campaigning as a career, interesting film about it:
Our Brand is Crisis with Sandra Bullock and Billy Bob Thornton ...
A battle-hardened American political consultant is sent to help re-elect a controversial president in Bolivia, where she must compete with a long-term rival working for another candidate.
more at link:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1018765/?ref_=nv_sr_2
A battle-hardened American political consultant is sent to help re-elect a controversial president in Bolivia, where she must compete with a long-term rival working for another candidate.
more at link:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1018765/?ref_=nv_sr_2