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Eugene

(61,899 posts)
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:49 PM Apr 2016

Hillary Clinton isn’t picking Elizabeth Warren for vice president. Here’s why.

Source: Washington Post

Hillary Clinton isn’t picking Elizabeth Warren for vice president. Here’s why.

By Chris Cillizza April 21 at 9:55 AM

The Boston Globe is reporting today that Hillary Clinton will consider putting another woman on the ticket as her vice presidential nominee this fall.

The first name on almost every Democrat's lips is Elizabeth Warren, the freshman Massachusetts senator who is beloved among liberals and regarded as the animating force behind the grass-roots energy that has propelled Bernie Sanders's presidential campaign against Clinton. Writes the Globe's Annie Linskey:

Warren is one of the few Democratic women with national name recognition and a big following among progressives, a voting bloc Sanders has energized. Having Warren on the ticket could help Clinton stitch the party back together after a divisive primary.
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Warren is clearly a first among equals in that group both for her fundraising prowess and her status as an icon of the liberal left. But, my strong sense is that Clinton and her inner circle will pick Warren only as a sort of last resort.

Here's why. Warren hasn't endorsed Clinton in the presidential race, the only female Democratic senator in that position. “What I’m glad to see is what’s happening right now, and that is that the Democrats are out talking about the issues,” Warren said in an interview with CBS in mid-March. “I think it makes it very distinct what happens between our side and what’s happening over on the other side. They’re doing some kind of reality show, we’re out here trying to talk about the issues that affect the American people.”

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Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/21/why-hillary-clinton-wont-pick-elizabeth-warren-as-vp-unless-she-absolutely-has-to/
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Hillary Clinton isn’t picking Elizabeth Warren for vice president. Here’s why. (Original Post) Eugene Apr 2016 OP
I am sure that taking Warren out of the Senate and putting her in the relatively useless role djean111 Apr 2016 #1
Warren isn't accepting either. highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #2
She could have ran for Pres and beat HRC. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #15
If the slot was offered and Warren accepted... Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #3
Elizabeth encouraged Hillary to run. onehandle Apr 2016 #4
Oh please...tired old talking point with no basis in reality CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #9
'Elizabeth signed a paper, along with every other female in the Senate, that urged Hillary to run.' onehandle Apr 2016 #10
No, I would describe CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #11
Or, she could go with a direct quote brooklynite Apr 2016 #13
So why hasn't she endorsed her? Armstead Apr 2016 #20
That would just be another reason not to vote for Hillary RedCappedBandit Apr 2016 #5
This Warren fixation is crazy. longship Apr 2016 #6
Hillary (for a lot of reasons) will not pick a female veep IF she even gets the nomination. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #7
The hubris in this article could sink a ship! CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #8
I think unity is a serious misjudgment on Camp Clinton's part. With all the stuff out there, it Skwmom Apr 2016 #18
My theory why is that she won't be the nominee. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #12
Socking Warren away in the VP slot would be a waste of her talent. Arkana Apr 2016 #14
Elizabeth Warren would be much more effective as treasury secretary than VP anigbrowl Apr 2016 #16
It would take a special kind of person to defend against all the money and government business Skwmom Apr 2016 #17
No shit sherlock JackRiddler Apr 2016 #19
Hillary will not pick anyone who might overshadow her... Ino Apr 2016 #21
+1 shanti Apr 2016 #22
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. I am sure that taking Warren out of the Senate and putting her in the relatively useless role
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:53 PM
Apr 2016

of VP is a Third Way wet dream - but that would not get me to support Clinton. That would be so fucking silly. Like Warren would be influencing legislation.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
3. If the slot was offered and Warren accepted...
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:54 PM
Apr 2016

...my considerable respect for her would evaporate like a drop of water on Mercury.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
9. Oh please...tired old talking point with no basis in reality
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:28 PM
Apr 2016

Elizabeth signed a paper, along with every other female in the Senate, that urged Hillary to run.

Warren was fairly new in the Senate. Of course she'd sign such a benign letter.

Warren hasn't endorsed Hillary. I think that speaks volumes.

She's also spoken out against Hillary and put the spotlight on Hillary voting for a bankruptcy bill after she had taken Wall Street campaign contributions.

Elizabeth Warren and Hillary Clinton are like night and day politically. But the Hillary Camp just has to go to the Washington Post and say:

1.) We're not picking you for VP Elizabeth
2.) You're inferior views on Wall Street don't mesh with your superior viewpoints
3.) Ok, we'll pick you as a last resort to unite the party, but only if we feel we have to.

I think it's clear that there is no harmony between these two! LOL! This is what Warren gets for failing to endorse Hillary!

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
10. 'Elizabeth signed a paper, along with every other female in the Senate, that urged Hillary to run.'
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:32 PM
Apr 2016

'Warren was fairly new in the Senate. Of course she'd sign such a benign letter.'

Oooh. So would you describe her as a 'weathervane?'

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
11. No, I would describe
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:35 PM
Apr 2016

Clinton and her tactics as bullying.

That letter has been repeatedly used by Clinton fans. Which is exactly why Clinton employs such tactics.

"Look! Look! Look at Elizabeth's signature on the letter! She said she liked me!"

Give it up.

brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
13. Or, she could go with a direct quote
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 02:27 PM
Apr 2016
Elizabeth Warren: I hope Hillary Clinton runs for president

Sen. Elizabeth Warren says she hopes Hillary Rodham Clinton runs for president in 2016 — the latest in a series of declarations of support by the Massachusetts Democrat, who some have speculated could seek the Oval Office herself.

"All all of the women — Democratic women I should say — of the Senate urged Hillary Clinton to run, and I hope she does. Hillary is terrific," Warren said during an interview broadcast Sunday on ABC's "This Week," noting that she was one of several senators to sign a letter urging Clinton to run in 2016.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2014/04/27/elizabeth-warren-i-hope-hillary-clinton-runs-for-president/


Elizabeth Warren praises Hillary Clinton’s Wall Street plan

Sen. Elizabeth Warren delivered influential support Monday for Hillary Clinton's proposal to expand regulation of the banking and financial services industries.

Warren said she welcomes Clinton’s warning that Republicans are trying to use the current government spending bill to weaken regulations. The liberal Massachusetts Democrat has declined to endorse anyone in the Democratic presidential primary so far

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12/07/elizabeth-warren-praises-hillary-clintons-wall-street-plan/
 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
20. So why hasn't she endorsed her?
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 03:10 PM
Apr 2016

You know that agreeing on some things is not the same as an endorsement. And saying she hopes she runs for president isn't either.

Bernie agrees with Clinton on things too.

She may well still endorse Clinton, just to do her part to move things along.

But there are obviously reasons she has not endorsed her.

RedCappedBandit

(5,514 posts)
5. That would just be another reason not to vote for Hillary
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:03 PM
Apr 2016

Warren is needed in the senate. Wasting time as VP would be a huge loss.

longship

(40,416 posts)
6. This Warren fixation is crazy.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:09 PM
Apr 2016

She has made it abundantly clear that she wants to remain a US Senator. Her record there attests to her awesome capabilities.

So why even propose that she either be offered or accept VEEP???

First, it is a really, really bad idea to take a budding Democratic Senate leader away from her elected office in her first term. What gain would such a thing accomplish other than forever depriving the country of such a putatively great US Senator?

To state otherwise is delusional.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
8. The hubris in this article could sink a ship!
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:22 PM
Apr 2016

We all know that the WaPo is a PR tool for Clinton. Whenever she wants her talking points out there, the WaPo is a great way to publicize exactly what she wants to say.

First off, What makes Clinton think that Elizabeth Warren would ever agree to be Hillary's VP? Warren hasn't even endorsed her! LOL!

Secondly, This article insults Elizabeth Warren several times--and uses those insults to justify why Clinton won't pick Warren. This is Clinton's way of demeaning Warren for not endorsing her. This is payback on the national stage. Because Clinton won NY, she thinks she's got the election wrapped up and this is what she does to people, when she's got power--or perceived power. She's a bully.

Thirdly--Does Clinton really believe that any VP pick could unify the Democratic party? Now she's insulting Sanders supporters! OMG...is she for real? I wouldn't vote for Clinton is she picked Bernie! I would assume the pick was a ploy and I wouldn't trust that she would ever listen to Bernie. There isn't a VP pick that Clinton would make--that would sway me.

The Clinton camp and their media mouthpieces are so off-the-rails out of touch with what is happening in the Democratic party. It has fractured. There is a San-Andreas-like political fault that exists now in the Democratic party. The Establishment is on one side. The anti-establishment is on the other.

No promises, no mea culpas, no "let's get unified!" speeches and no vice-presidential pick will make one iota of difference.

God, if this article doesn't epitomize the Clinton hubris and bullying tactics, I don't know what does. What a joke.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
18. I think unity is a serious misjudgment on Camp Clinton's part. With all the stuff out there, it
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 02:59 PM
Apr 2016

would not be hard to peel off her voters.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
14. Socking Warren away in the VP slot would be a waste of her talent.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 02:30 PM
Apr 2016

And Massachusetts would have to elect another goddamn Senator and that fucking vulture Scott Brown doesn't need another chance at representing this state.

No, if she's the nominee she needs someone young, charismatic, and friendly with the left--everything she isn't. Sadly, there aren't a whole lot of choices in that regard. Tim Kaine's too establishment (and too suspect on reproductive rights), O'Malley's toxic with black voters, and if she picks Cuomo there's going to be a full-scale revolt because he's basically her clone.

The only nominee I can think of that makes sense is the former HUD secretary, Castro (either Julian or Joaquin--whichever twin it was).

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
16. Elizabeth Warren would be much more effective as treasury secretary than VP
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 02:32 PM
Apr 2016

Economics is her biggest strength by far, and she has a deep understanding of regulatory issues and the organizational dysfunction that can obtain in large bureaucracies. She could be an excellent future President but I think the best path to that lise through a stint in the cabinet.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
17. It would take a special kind of person to defend against all the money and government business
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 02:56 PM
Apr 2016

questions.
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