2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton isn’t picking Elizabeth Warren for vice president. Here’s why.
Source: Washington Post
By Chris Cillizza April 21 at 9:55 AM
The Boston Globe is reporting today that Hillary Clinton will consider putting another woman on the ticket as her vice presidential nominee this fall.
The first name on almost every Democrat's lips is Elizabeth Warren, the freshman Massachusetts senator who is beloved among liberals and regarded as the animating force behind the grass-roots energy that has propelled Bernie Sanders's presidential campaign against Clinton. Writes the Globe's Annie Linskey:
Warren is clearly a first among equals in that group both for her fundraising prowess and her status as an icon of the liberal left. But, my strong sense is that Clinton and her inner circle will pick Warren only as a sort of last resort.
Here's why. Warren hasn't endorsed Clinton in the presidential race, the only female Democratic senator in that position. What Im glad to see is whats happening right now, and that is that the Democrats are out talking about the issues, Warren said in an interview with CBS in mid-March. I think it makes it very distinct what happens between our side and whats happening over on the other side. Theyre doing some kind of reality show, were out here trying to talk about the issues that affect the American people.
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djean111
(14,255 posts)of VP is a Third Way wet dream - but that would not get me to support Clinton. That would be so fucking silly. Like Warren would be influencing legislation.
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)...my considerable respect for her would evaporate like a drop of water on Mercury.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)So start evaporating.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Elizabeth signed a paper, along with every other female in the Senate, that urged Hillary to run.
Warren was fairly new in the Senate. Of course she'd sign such a benign letter.
Warren hasn't endorsed Hillary. I think that speaks volumes.
She's also spoken out against Hillary and put the spotlight on Hillary voting for a bankruptcy bill after she had taken Wall Street campaign contributions.
Elizabeth Warren and Hillary Clinton are like night and day politically. But the Hillary Camp just has to go to the Washington Post and say:
1.) We're not picking you for VP Elizabeth
2.) You're inferior views on Wall Street don't mesh with your superior viewpoints
3.) Ok, we'll pick you as a last resort to unite the party, but only if we feel we have to.
I think it's clear that there is no harmony between these two! LOL! This is what Warren gets for failing to endorse Hillary!
onehandle
(51,122 posts)'Warren was fairly new in the Senate. Of course she'd sign such a benign letter.'
Oooh. So would you describe her as a 'weathervane?'
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Clinton and her tactics as bullying.
That letter has been repeatedly used by Clinton fans. Which is exactly why Clinton employs such tactics.
"Look! Look! Look at Elizabeth's signature on the letter! She said she liked me!"
Give it up.
brooklynite
(94,591 posts)Sen. Elizabeth Warren says she hopes Hillary Rodham Clinton runs for president in 2016 the latest in a series of declarations of support by the Massachusetts Democrat, who some have speculated could seek the Oval Office herself.
"All all of the women Democratic women I should say of the Senate urged Hillary Clinton to run, and I hope she does. Hillary is terrific," Warren said during an interview broadcast Sunday on ABC's "This Week," noting that she was one of several senators to sign a letter urging Clinton to run in 2016.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2014/04/27/elizabeth-warren-i-hope-hillary-clinton-runs-for-president/
Sen. Elizabeth Warren delivered influential support Monday for Hillary Clinton's proposal to expand regulation of the banking and financial services industries.
Warren said she welcomes Clintons warning that Republicans are trying to use the current government spending bill to weaken regulations. The liberal Massachusetts Democrat has declined to endorse anyone in the Democratic presidential primary so far
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12/07/elizabeth-warren-praises-hillary-clintons-wall-street-plan/
Armstead
(47,803 posts)You know that agreeing on some things is not the same as an endorsement. And saying she hopes she runs for president isn't either.
Bernie agrees with Clinton on things too.
She may well still endorse Clinton, just to do her part to move things along.
But there are obviously reasons she has not endorsed her.
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)Warren is needed in the senate. Wasting time as VP would be a huge loss.
longship
(40,416 posts)She has made it abundantly clear that she wants to remain a US Senator. Her record there attests to her awesome capabilities.
So why even propose that she either be offered or accept VEEP???
First, it is a really, really bad idea to take a budding Democratic Senate leader away from her elected office in her first term. What gain would such a thing accomplish other than forever depriving the country of such a putatively great US Senator?
To state otherwise is delusional.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)We all know that the WaPo is a PR tool for Clinton. Whenever she wants her talking points out there, the WaPo is a great way to publicize exactly what she wants to say.
First off, What makes Clinton think that Elizabeth Warren would ever agree to be Hillary's VP? Warren hasn't even endorsed her! LOL!
Secondly, This article insults Elizabeth Warren several times--and uses those insults to justify why Clinton won't pick Warren. This is Clinton's way of demeaning Warren for not endorsing her. This is payback on the national stage. Because Clinton won NY, she thinks she's got the election wrapped up and this is what she does to people, when she's got power--or perceived power. She's a bully.
Thirdly--Does Clinton really believe that any VP pick could unify the Democratic party? Now she's insulting Sanders supporters! OMG...is she for real? I wouldn't vote for Clinton is she picked Bernie! I would assume the pick was a ploy and I wouldn't trust that she would ever listen to Bernie. There isn't a VP pick that Clinton would make--that would sway me.
The Clinton camp and their media mouthpieces are so off-the-rails out of touch with what is happening in the Democratic party. It has fractured. There is a San-Andreas-like political fault that exists now in the Democratic party. The Establishment is on one side. The anti-establishment is on the other.
No promises, no mea culpas, no "let's get unified!" speeches and no vice-presidential pick will make one iota of difference.
God, if this article doesn't epitomize the Clinton hubris and bullying tactics, I don't know what does. What a joke.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)would not be hard to peel off her voters.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)Arkana
(24,347 posts)And Massachusetts would have to elect another goddamn Senator and that fucking vulture Scott Brown doesn't need another chance at representing this state.
No, if she's the nominee she needs someone young, charismatic, and friendly with the left--everything she isn't. Sadly, there aren't a whole lot of choices in that regard. Tim Kaine's too establishment (and too suspect on reproductive rights), O'Malley's toxic with black voters, and if she picks Cuomo there's going to be a full-scale revolt because he's basically her clone.
The only nominee I can think of that makes sense is the former HUD secretary, Castro (either Julian or Joaquin--whichever twin it was).
anigbrowl
(13,889 posts)Economics is her biggest strength by far, and she has a deep understanding of regulatory issues and the organizational dysfunction that can obtain in large bureaucracies. She could be an excellent future President but I think the best path to that lise through a stint in the cabinet.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)questions.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)She's likelier to pick Marco Rubio.
Ino
(3,366 posts)or be more popular than her.
and i don't believe warren would accept if asked either. they are too different.