2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIn The Last 10 Primary Contests, The Only 2 Bernie Has Lost Are Closed Primaries Under Investigation
Or Audit...The Eight He Won, He Won By Double Digits...
Just Sayin': GO, Bernie... GO!!
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)hellofromreddit
(1,182 posts)OH BUT THAT'S VICE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!!!!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/democratic-party-and-clinton-campaign-to-sue-arizona-over-voting-rights/2016/04/14/dadc4708-0188-11e6-b823-707c79ce3504_story.html?wpisrc=al_alert-COMBO-politics%252Bnation
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)http://www.newsweek.com/clinton-trump-bush-word-games-366262
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)no freakin text....
polichick
(37,152 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)think
(11,641 posts)brooklynite
(94,585 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)Those who dont feel the Bern may instead be fearing it.
In a conversation with Santa Monica public radios KCRW on Wednesday, Republican strategist Dave Carney speculated that Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) could pose a bigger threat to the GOP in the general election than Hillary Clinton would.
Sanders has tapped into a powerful populist anger (as has Trump), and that sentiment isnt easy for opposing candidates to overcome, Carney said.
Bernie does the exact same thing that Trump does on the different side of the coin, Carney argued. They talk about this economic disconnect between the elites and the rest of us ... and they have different prescriptions for fixing that, but its the same anger, the same concern.
Carney said that while Sanders self-description as a democratic socialist might alienate some people, it ultimately becomes irrelevant once voters enter the voting booth.
(snip)
I think Bernie ... would bring new energy to the general election, Carney concluded, and I would be more worried about him.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/republican-strategist-bernie-sanders-clinton_us_56bbafb3e4b0c3c5504ff6c7
Not to mention Bernie consistently beats the Republicans in hypothetical general election match-ups by greater margins than Hillary.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)He won ONE state- His home state MN. All the Rs would have to do is run the video of Bernie saying that and his numbers would be in single digits
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)is scum.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)"I forgot to register!" HRC and/or the state committed fraud.
"The lines were long." HRC and/or the state committed fraud.
"It was a closed primary." HRC and/or the state committed fraud.
"I swear! Somebody changed my party affiliation without my knowledge." HRC and/or the state committed fraud.
It's old and tired. And thanks for the "scum" comment. Always enjoy a little sugar from the Sanders crowd.
sweetloukillbot
(11,026 posts)They voted provisional and they were counted.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)And I'm still confused how this gives HRC an advantage.
sweetloukillbot
(11,026 posts)Oh, wait...
Yeah, I got nothin', but I had to stand in line for 6 hours to vote and I know it wasn't because I'm a Bernie supporter..
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)citizens of AZ, all of whom followed the rules, yet were denied a vote. Anyone making light of that, or worse...minimizing its implications because it seemingly benefits their candidate... well, I won't say what I would truly like to because I don't want to get my response hidden. I'm sure those citizens of NY in similar situations feel the same. I will say that it sickens me that the hard-fought-for right to vote in this country can be stolen so easily...and subsequently MOCKED by a cadre of corporate clowns and their ridiculous enablers.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Yes there were problems, and, yes, AZ brought them on through their actions. Quite possibly, they knew that the closures would create chaos. No argument. AND IT AFFECTED EVERY CANDIDATE IN THE FIELD EQUALLY!
So, you want to hang this on Clinton? Prove it! Show that she somehow benefited from this mess, and I will concede this point to you immediately. Otherwise, you guys are blowing smoke.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)questionseverything
(9,655 posts)we know there were many instances of disenfranchisement by running out of ballots and refusing new voters the right to register and now the illinois ballot integrity project is finding evidence of election fraud in the auditing in chicago
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Thanks for bringing that news here.
I wonder if Illinois will flip for Bernie like Nevada did.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)He broke the law, and it' not being investigated. Doesn't mean it shouldn't.
sweetloukillbot
(11,026 posts)And if he was, then all those people right behind him waving Bernie signs were breaking the law as well.
HillareeeHillaraah
(685 posts)Bam!
elleng
(130,952 posts)which many need to see.
rock
(13,218 posts)"Cherry picking".
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)The rest were caucuses and those are a lot less reliable than primaries.
Go away, Bernie, Go away.
felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)like clean clear water, that hasn't been fracked up.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Isn't that what they are trying to do when the knit pick something about Bernie and try to change people's focus from the real issue. . whereas this is the opposite, changing the perspective from their biased one to a braoder outlook.
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)Thanks for the thread, AzDar.
kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)Tarc
(10,476 posts)The problem is, the Sanders-favorables are pretty much done with.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)...all the dust will have settled.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)except a few hard core fans of the law.
berniepdx420
(1,784 posts)Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)I never saw that one before.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Its so obvious!!
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)AuntPatsy
(9,904 posts)Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)GO Bernie!
All the spin in the world doesn't change the fact of what's happening.
And if math were the whole story, everybody and their brother-in-law could predict the stock market.
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)Let's arrange the facts so that it looks good and we can rally the troops!
I'm no fan of that. I want an honest appraisal. And that appraisal is where things actually stand in both votes counted and delegates pledged.
Milestone
(37 posts)"Stages of Denial".
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)Since I'm not actually doing that, I'd like to know where you at least believe I get them from.
weak.
Just deal with the fact that far more people are voting for Hillary. How many people go to his rallies don't mean jack squat. It's votes. Who has the most votes? Oh, don't tell me, Hillary rigged it.
TeddyR
(2,493 posts)But the whining about closed primaries puzzles me. If you want to vote in the Dem primaries then register as a Dem. If you aren't registered as a Dem don't complain.
vintx
(1,748 posts)I'm sure you think that's not by design.
In April 2015, (the disgusting DWS) told the Sun-Sentinel, Secretary Clinton is arguably one of the most qualified peopleassuming she announces her candidacywho have ever run for president. I was proud to support her in 2008. Of course, as DNC chair, I will neutrally manage our primary nomination contest, assuming we have one.