I am not taking advice from him.

What's hypocritical is this guy purporting to speak for black people.

anything?

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And he added a statement into the Congressional Record calling for eliminating the disparity between sentencing for crack and cocaine users -- by raising the cocaine penalties.

Even Bernie was a law and order guy back then.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/12/when-bernie-sanders-conventional-politician-called-for-still-more-mass-incarceration.html

The story gets worse for Sanders. Over the weekend, an excerpt of remarks Congressman Sanders had inserted into the Congressional Record in 1995 started making the rounds. A debate was raging at the time about the crack-powder cocaine sentencing disparities (black people were more often arrested on crack charges, for which the sentencing guidelines were much harsher). The U.S. Sentencing Commission had recommended to Congress that it eliminate the disparity (PDF). It meant that Congress should do so by lowering the guidelines for crack so that they’d be equal to those for powder. Most Democrats, of course, supported this change.

Sanders? Well, he wanted to eliminate the disparity—but by raising the powder guidelines to those for crack! Here are the salient sentences, from the Record of Oct. 18, 1995, tweeted over the weekend by James E. Carter IV, President Carter’s grandson:

known, in their histories, for being "unfriendly" to black people has the nerve to try to speak as if he has any authority or knowledge as to how black people feel.


http://missoulian.com/news/local/martin-luther-king-jr-day-being-black-in-montana-can/article_19b2db8c-66be-5d69-977c-e1d81c9a1cae.html


http://www.portlandoccupier.org/2012/11/28/why-arent-there-more-black-people-in-oregon/

ing the OP hyperlink--what about Michelle Alexander's link then?

There is quite a history to this Clinton racial pandering MADem.

Racial tensions roil Democratic race (Ben Smith 2008)
http://www.politico.com/story/2008/01/racial-tensions-roil-democratic-race-007845

When Hillary does something Bernie supporters disagree with, she's corrupt, evil, whatever.

When Hillary does something Bernie supporters agree with, she's pandering.

What does that mean?

You not getting that explains this whole thread.

need to discuss.

It has been explained to you, I am sure, multiple times.

is the action of a whole, of a system.

A black person CANT be a racist in a system where white people have the power. He or she CAN be a racist in a system where THEY have the power.

They can be and often are bigots, two different things.

I get why white guys need to be able to call black guys racist, I do.

But you cant, not and be accurate, not in America.

The irony is, only someone who doesn't know what RAINBOW PUSH is all about would even attempt such a label....

http://rainbowpush.org/pages/brief_history

...they're ALL voting for Bernie now. AND they're going to retroactively change all the black votes for Clinton over to Sanders as well. Sanders wins, he's the Democratic nominee now!

You finally did it!!!111

ETA:

They run articles like: The Liberal Apologies for Obama’s Ugly Reign

Hmmmm I'll have to look into this because I was pretty sure about that.

They're well off the beaten track, to put it kindly. And if Democrats like it, they hate it almost as much as Republicans--sometimes more.

They're contrarians who will never have a day in the sun because they don't understand the meaning of the term "compromise." A Whiner's Club, in essence.

When Cockburn was alive, I think it was more ideologically to the right/libertarian side than it is now.

I have known two year olds with that mindset....they usually outgrew it.

Thanks

of winning over black voters

You can have hypocracy with Hillary, and the Clintons will continue dragging African Americans, POC, middle class and low income people down. More will be incarcerated, more people will lose the little they have. The Clintons will do it while working for their masters-- Wall Street and big banks. And they'll continue to get richer while the rest of us do worse and worse. I see it coming, but too many people can't or won't see it.

And it is a fact. He has gone after Clinton for the 94 crime bill when he voted for it.

On this subject he is being disingenuous.


On subject of the OP it is a spot on characterization. It is another white person lecturing black people why Clinton is evil. I have the feeling that all the whitesplaining of why Bernie is better for black maybe made turned off a ton of African Americans to his candidacy.


From the start of the race Berniebros harassed and lectured any black person who dared to support Clinton.

Article after article bashing Bill and blaming Hillary for how times were different for Democrats after 12 years of Republican presidencies. Revisionist history is always the best eh? Never mind the false narrative of blaming Hillary for Bill's supposed sins. Oh, and he whines that the Clinton's are allowed to raise money like every candidate except Bernie and Trump. They should have just "disqualified" themselves, amiright?

To give the boilerplate "black people are being suckered in" spiel?

I think we have a case of terminal CDS (Clinton Derangement Syndrome) here.

bring in Professor Caucasian from Whitesville to "educate" those with what Bernieworld regards as a surfeit of melanin!


Everyone line up and take your dose!

"Professor Caucasian from Whitesville."

Are only people of a certain race supposed to be able to talk about that race?

Do you typically devalue people because of the color of their skin?

Get your talking points from David Brock? Or is it Karl Rove?

But especially by the Clintons. A lot of her northern vote is white.

Campaigning on progressive ideas and then turning their backs on those ideas is the way it's been done. I'm tired of it. I know The repubs make life hard, but to get anywhere we need to fight back with Bernie, not capitulate and kiss up to Repubs and their stupid ideas. Clintons have taken from the American people and given to those who have more than they need and to themselves.

Hillary campaigns dirty and she whines about being smeared when people tell the truth about her. She smeared Bernie multiple times, especially with the African Americans. She's the one who gets forgiven easily for things like "super preditors . . . we need to bring them to heel." That's not how Bernie has talked ever.

Most people like the people they know the best and take time to get to know new people. Hillary and Bill have been around a long time and have good but undeserved reputations in the African American communities. I'm sorry that many black Americans haven't given Bernie a chance, with their Clinton loyalty.

are allowed to discuss certain topics here. i'm sorry you wasted your sincerity and intention on this, i've done it more than once myself. you will be shouted down no matter the validity of any points you make.

whether you are submitting facts or seeking open discussion is immaterial. if you venture into certain territories uninvited you're a racist, you're a sexist, the source you cite is worse than the John Birch society, you're clearly someone who spends afternoons torturing kittens, alert, hate crime, violence against women, Bernie said a bad word in 1969 so go to hell you monster. anything but address the issues honestly. anything. ever point your hand at a TV so a dog will look there? and the dog looks at your hand? that.

This seems relevant to the African American forum. Maybe posting it there would allow you some additional perspectives...

"Hillary sells herself to the electorate first and foremost as a woman, whose time has come."

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/05/03/Hillary-Clintons-foreign-policy-resume-what-the-record-shows

"...the Democratic Party is the Party of Wall Street and corporate America." There it is.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/05/06/hillary-clinton-and-the-end-of-the-democratic-party