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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:12 PM Apr 2016

Elizabeth Warren For VP Possible As Clinton Hints At Clinton/Warren Dream Ticket

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/21/elizabeth-warren-vp-clinton-hints-woman-dream-ticket.html

Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairmen John Podesta hinted that women are being considered to Clinton’s running mate, and immediately lit the speculation that a dream ticket with Elizabeth Warren is possible....

If Republicans nominate Donald Trump, the conventional wisdom that two women couldn’t be on the Democratic ticket together will be thrown out the window. Trump is so unpopular and likely to pick another man to be his VP. Clinton could have the ability choose any Democrat that she wants. Traditional considerations like gender and geography may not matter.

Former Sec. of State Clinton has struggled with progressive voters in the primary, so it makes perfect sense that she might seek to form an ideological unity ticket that would bring all spectrums of the Democratic Party into the campaign. Since Bernie Sanders may not be a realistic option for VP due to age and the divide between the two on campaign financing, Sen. Warren would be the perfect choice if Clinton decides that she wants to add a progressive to the ticket....

There is also no indication that Elizabeth Warren would not take the number two spot on the ticket it was offered to her. Elizabeth Warren on the Democratic ticket makes perfect sense, which is why it probably won’t happen, but if Clinton wants a progressive fighter on the ticket with her, Sen. Warren would be an outstanding choice.
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Elizabeth Warren For VP Possible As Clinton Hints At Clinton/Warren Dream Ticket (Original Post) KamaAina Apr 2016 OP
I think Warren is more likely to be named to a cabinet post or something. Hoyt Apr 2016 #1
Nope CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #42
Lol never. elehhhhna Apr 2016 #55
Another former republican who has already lost me. ViseGrip Apr 2016 #2
Maybe she understands political realities and best way to get things done with GOPers in Congress. Hoyt Apr 2016 #3
what exactly has Hillary ever "got done"? virtualobserver Apr 2016 #28
zing! artislife Apr 2016 #30
Warren would never do it, thank god. She is no fool. virtualobserver Apr 2016 #34
The Children's Health Insurance Program is but one thing. "Women's rights are human rights." Hoyt Apr 2016 #38
He's on a committee! What more do you want? randome Apr 2016 #63
"That is a low blow." Hoyt Apr 2016 #69
"best way to get things done with GOPers in Congress" hasn't worked well for Obama hellofromreddit Apr 2016 #81
He's thwarted a lot of their crap, passed ACA, etc. But, to some folks it is never Hoyt Apr 2016 #82
Repeating the same wrong point doesn't make it right. hellofromreddit Apr 2016 #83
Never good enough. Hoyt Apr 2016 #84
this Joob Apr 2016 #17
+1000000000 onecaliberal Apr 2016 #21
She hasn't quite lost me, but I'm very disappointed in her. closeupready Apr 2016 #24
Won't sway me one little bit. djean111 Apr 2016 #4
"a basically nothing job"? KamaAina Apr 2016 #6
W let cheney run the show - that is not what either Bernie or jwirr Apr 2016 #11
Cheney was exceptional in his role as VP for good reason. MrTriumph Apr 2016 #15
That is apples and oranges, and you know that. djean111 Apr 2016 #16
Dick Cheney ran the show because Bush allowed him to notadmblnd Apr 2016 #54
I'm kinda thinking the same thing Rebkeh Apr 2016 #19
but what if Hillary is impeached PaulaFarrell Apr 2016 #26
Won't vote on that possibility. Warren would be wasted. djean111 Apr 2016 #37
i would have to question Warren's integrity if she took it PaulaFarrell Apr 2016 #40
Yup RedCappedBandit Apr 2016 #80
Hillary will be out, probably before the convention. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #5
Ahhh the short list. First, the one she'll never choose, to boost her campaign. ViseGrip Apr 2016 #7
Oh what bullshit. Punkingal Apr 2016 #8
and warren would never accept n/t shanti Apr 2016 #13
Warren is better off in the Senate, imo bigwillq Apr 2016 #9
Oh, she would love that - get Elizabeth out of the Senate and jwirr Apr 2016 #10
Bingo! pa28 Apr 2016 #48
Exactly. jwirr Apr 2016 #49
Elizabeth don't you dare! bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #12
The problem is: That would define Elizabeth Warren a lot more than it would define Clinton. Skwmom Apr 2016 #14
I think it's a great idea. I suspect Hillary's advisors would rather have someone like DWS. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #18
More likely, someone from Military Industrial Complex like Wesley Clark egalitegirl Apr 2016 #20
If Podesta told me the sun rose in the East, I'd be skeptical. winter is coming Apr 2016 #22
She belongs in the Senate. Gregorian Apr 2016 #23
Yeah, I'm torn by that. OTOH, MA will not be at a loss for another dem senator but CTyankee Apr 2016 #31
I see your point. Gregorian Apr 2016 #33
sort of a dream of mine, tho. I don't think it's going to happen but I wish it would... CTyankee Apr 2016 #50
That's what they thought when John Kerry became SoS KamaAina Apr 2016 #52
sorry, not remembering Code Brown... CTyankee Apr 2016 #57
Scott "Code" Brown. KamaAina Apr 2016 #58
Oh, geez, now I get the ghost of that thing...ugh... CTyankee Apr 2016 #59
The problem.... PyaarRevolution Apr 2016 #71
that would be great MFM008 Apr 2016 #25
No. ananda Apr 2016 #27
"Elizabeth Warren on the Democratic ticket makes perfect sense" demwing Apr 2016 #29
Elizabeth Warren is waaaay too smart to fall for that crap. She will not Land of Enchantment Apr 2016 #32
We keep hearing how Sanders' support is really just all about MISOGYNNEEEEEEEEEEEEE Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #35
You mean his supporters should vote for war and fracking and the TPP and cluster bombs and djean111 Apr 2016 #39
Yeah, but she may end up being the Democratic Nominee. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #86
That ticket would be a dream for Clinton, but not for Warren. I don't believe she would accept it, Cal33 Apr 2016 #36
Hey, Podesta, tell us which Goldman-Sachs insiders will be in Hillary's cabinet TheDormouse Apr 2016 #41
Clinton doesn't need a vice president, remember we get two for the price of one tularetom Apr 2016 #43
Being on the VP list is different from being chosen. Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #44
I would think Wall St. would love this. DookDook Apr 2016 #47
This is just a lame attempt to capture some Warren mojo absent her endorsement. NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #45
That would be one way to neutralize a voice loyalsister Apr 2016 #46
Ah, so that will be the carrot she dangles to get Sander's supporters to vote for her notadmblnd Apr 2016 #51
Or maybe she's smart enough to know how to get things done as VP! randome Apr 2016 #64
I think Senator Warren can get more done in the Senate notadmblnd Apr 2016 #74
Not the Onion: Clinton rumor values senator and consumer advovate as bucket of warm spit HereSince1628 Apr 2016 #53
I don't see that happening Bjornsdotter Apr 2016 #56
Warren and Clinton not going to happen dr60omg Apr 2016 #60
Dream ticket? whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #61
I hope she wouldn't do that. It would go against mmonk Apr 2016 #62
There is no fucking way Warren will accept Trajan Apr 2016 #65
It won't happen. 840high Apr 2016 #66
Excellent choice Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #67
Oh now that's funny Kalidurga Apr 2016 #68
I don't think Warren would risk damaging her credibility Snotcicles Apr 2016 #70
Not gonna happen PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #72
I'd bet that Hill would LOVE to have Warren as VP - because she wouldn't be able to CharlotteVale Apr 2016 #73
That would be so awesome! Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #75
the Warren part might be a dream ticket. Cobalt Violet Apr 2016 #76
I don't think it will happen. still_one Apr 2016 #77
Warren would be selling out her own principles thebeautifulstruggle Apr 2016 #78
they have bottomed out reddread Apr 2016 #79
This is how stupid the think the left is. bunnies Apr 2016 #85
 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
2. Another former republican who has already lost me.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:14 PM
Apr 2016

I hope for her own sake, she stays away from the queen of Wall Street.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. Maybe she understands political realities and best way to get things done with GOPers in Congress.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:15 PM
Apr 2016
 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
28. what exactly has Hillary ever "got done"?
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:49 PM
Apr 2016

Healthcare....nope

War in Iraq....well, she helped get that done.

Talked Obama into an agressive stance in Libya....how nice.

Working to get the things done that Republicans already want is nothing to brag about.

Anyone can work with the Republicans by lying down.







 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
30. zing!
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:51 PM
Apr 2016

If Warren were to join the ticket, I would just lose respect for her. It would not encourage me to forget about how nasty I think Clinton is.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
34. Warren would never do it, thank god. She is no fool.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:59 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary has a great resume, but poor job performance.

Oh, and she's "fighting for us".....whatever the hell that means.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
38. The Children's Health Insurance Program is but one thing. "Women's rights are human rights."
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 06:07 PM
Apr 2016

Negotiated cease fire in middle-east. Immigration reform. And more.

What's Sander's accomplished?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
63. He's on a committee! What more do you want?
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 07:34 PM
Apr 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]
 

hellofromreddit

(1,182 posts)
81. "best way to get things done with GOPers in Congress" hasn't worked well for Obama
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:29 PM
Apr 2016

Don't get me wrong, Obama has done quite a lot considering the obstruction he's against.

But when not giving him a handicap for the obstruction, he hasn't done much. So it seems his method to get around the GOP is lacking.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
4. Won't sway me one little bit.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:17 PM
Apr 2016

All this would do is get Warren out of the Senate and into a basically nothing job, which is, of course, a Third Way wet dream.

To name Warren as VP is kind of the pinnacle of cynical pandering. Disgusting.

MrTriumph

(1,720 posts)
15. Cheney was exceptional in his role as VP for good reason.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:24 PM
Apr 2016

NEVER have we had a president as lazy as W.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
16. That is apples and oranges, and you know that.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:24 PM
Apr 2016

Cheney named himself VP and basically told Bush what to do. To compare Warren with Cheney is ridiculous.

If Warren was VP, you really thing she would influence Hillary? What a fucking joke. Warren would do funerals and state dinners and be out of Hillary's Third Way hair; Warren would be more effective as a Senator. Hillary and the Third Way people know that. They even went to the trouble of saying Warren is getting out of hand, in a WSJ opinion piece.

FFS.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
54. Dick Cheney ran the show because Bush allowed him to
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 07:23 PM
Apr 2016

Do you think Hillary will give up that control? I don't.

Rebkeh

(2,450 posts)
19. I'm kinda thinking the same thing
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:31 PM
Apr 2016

It would do nothing to get my vote. That they think it could, if that's what they're trying to do, only confirms my reasons for rejecting her. It actually kinda pisses me off. She has to actually change, not simply appear to, and it's too late to convince me she means her recent move to the left. Seven months isn't nearly enough time to do it. So... the pooch has already been screwed.

And using the Senator like that disgusts me too.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
37. Won't vote on that possibility. Warren would be wasted.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 06:03 PM
Apr 2016

I could see Warren as Bernie's VP (although still bad to lose her as a Senator) - because I think they would really work together as a team. And I could see Warren as president. But as Hillary's little errand runner? Nope.

Besides, who knows what fixes are in, anyway.

And if this is a trial balloon, someone pop it real quick. Hillary is not moving left, and Hillary would only be using Warren to try and snag Bernie's supporters, with the huge plus of getting Warren out of Congress. Pandering, with a side of the usual self-interest.

PaulaFarrell

(1,236 posts)
40. i would have to question Warren's integrity if she took it
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 06:11 PM
Apr 2016

But I can't see Hillary not being impeached. Convicted is another matter.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
9. Warren is better off in the Senate, imo
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:19 PM
Apr 2016

I didn't think Warren was a good choice as VP for either Clinton or Sanders.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
10. Oh, she would love that - get Elizabeth out of the Senate and
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:20 PM
Apr 2016

into a virtually powerless powerless position.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
48. Bingo!
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 07:12 PM
Apr 2016

Attract Bernie's supporters to the fold and then put her in a cubbie hole where she can no longer be difficult.

A two for one deal.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
18. I think it's a great idea. I suspect Hillary's advisors would rather have someone like DWS.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:29 PM
Apr 2016

You know, someone who can appeal to "soccer moms" and "values voters" by promising to get tough on drugs, like take the problem of rampant medical marijuana use seriously.

Or maybe she's angling for the AG slot, be relatively easier to work on her priority of putting sick people in prison for smoking weed that way.

 

egalitegirl

(362 posts)
20. More likely, someone from Military Industrial Complex like Wesley Clark
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:32 PM
Apr 2016

The VP candidate will have to be acceptable to the Military Industrial Complex and Wall Street. Wesley Clark was groomed for this role as he was from the military industrial complex, but it is no longer 2008 and so it is hard to say if he is still part of the plan.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
31. Yeah, I'm torn by that. OTOH, MA will not be at a loss for another dem senator but
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:52 PM
Apr 2016

a two woman ticket would be awesome. Ted Cruz would pee in his pants and Trump would probably sputter something stupid...the GOP would lose its collective mind...

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
58. Scott "Code" Brown.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 07:28 PM
Apr 2016

Beat Martha Chokely Coakley, who ran a campaign that made Jeb!'s look like genius.

PyaarRevolution

(814 posts)
71. The problem....
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:50 PM
Apr 2016

Is that MA voters and people across the country who are real Liberals are energized by her. No offense to Ted Kennedy but he was damaged goods and everyone here knows why. Elizabeth doesn't have that.

Land of Enchantment

(1,217 posts)
32. Elizabeth Warren is waaaay too smart to fall for that crap. She will not
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:56 PM
Apr 2016

allow herself to be used.

Everyone should read 'A Fighting Chance'. She spells it out clearly that she is NOBODY'S PAWN.

Nice try, Podesta. No sale.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
35. We keep hearing how Sanders' support is really just all about MISOGYNNEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 06:02 PM
Apr 2016

here's one way to find out, huh.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
39. You mean his supporters should vote for war and fracking and the TPP and cluster bombs and
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 06:07 PM
Apr 2016

Third Way attacks on Social Security and a willingness to put more restrictions on abortion - just because Warren is a woman? And we all know that Hillary would just be using Warren to snag votes, and then park her in a little office somewhere, happy to have her out of the Senate.

Try thinking of this without gender involved. ISSUES. Words. Deeds. Gender is meaningless.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
86. Yeah, but she may end up being the Democratic Nominee.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:07 PM
Apr 2016

I'm not going to tell you what you should do in that eventuality, but I know what I'm going to do, and it's exactly the same thing I do every 4 years.

And who she has at #2 on the ticket probably won't influence it all that much (unless it's someone like DWS, but I don't see that happening) but certainly a pick like Liz Warren would make me happy.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
36. That ticket would be a dream for Clinton, but not for Warren. I don't believe she would accept it,
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 06:02 PM
Apr 2016

if offered.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
43. Clinton doesn't need a vice president, remember we get two for the price of one
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 06:47 PM
Apr 2016

And if you don't think Bill Clinton is going to have his big red nose right in the middle of everything she does, I want some of what you're smoking.

Besides, I don't think either Clinton wants Warren anywhere near the Oval Office. She would totally overshadow Hillary, in terms of brains, personal magnetism, speaking skills that the contrast would be ugly for the plodding and uninspiring president. I think Bill would put the kibosh on Warren as VP, but I don't think Hillary would even consider her.

And Warren is way too smart to attract herself to what would almost surely be a train wreck like a Hillary Clinton presidency.

The only positive would be if Hillary gets elected and is subsequently impeached and removed from office, we'd get President Warren. Which of course is just another reason why the Clintons puppet masters would never approve of Warren.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
44. Being on the VP list is different from being chosen.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 06:52 PM
Apr 2016

Elizabeth Warren will be on the list, but Hillary Clinton will probably choose someone else since her Wall St donors would oppose Warren.

DookDook

(166 posts)
47. I would think Wall St. would love this.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 06:57 PM
Apr 2016

If she left her senate seat she could become a toothless and hamstrung VP that's not really supported by the President.

I think we need Warren to stay in the senate so she can keep fighting for us.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
45. This is just a lame attempt to capture some Warren mojo absent her endorsement.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 06:55 PM
Apr 2016

Warren would not be on the Clinton short list.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
46. That would be one way to neutralize a voice
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 06:56 PM
Apr 2016

One that has real potential to hold Hillary accountable. Sen. Warren has much more power and influence as a high profile assertive senator.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
51. Ah, so that will be the carrot she dangles to get Sander's supporters to vote for her
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 07:21 PM
Apr 2016

If Senator Warren is as smart as I think she is- she'll turn it down.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
64. Or maybe she's smart enough to know how to get things done as VP!
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 07:35 PM
Apr 2016

Good God, now you're going to through her under the bus?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
74. I think Senator Warren can get more done in the Senate
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:03 PM
Apr 2016

I think Hillary would only offer the spot to Senator Warren as way to keep her from being productive- in that position or in the Senate. The Vice President really only has two primary duties: to cast a vote in the event of a Senate deadlock and to preside over and certify the official vote count of the U.S. Electoral College.

I think as VP she would not be given opportunity to get things done as the Senator views many issues, among them Wall Street and Citizens United pretty much the same way as Senator Sanders does. And even if she were given opportunity or authority as VP to get something done- I think Hillary Clinton would resent Senator Warren for it. Hillary is a narcissist and will not tolerate someone going against her and I don't believe that Senator Warren is one to unquestioningly follow.

No, I stand by what I said. If Senator Warren is as smart as we think she is, she'll stay in the Senate where she can actually get something done.


on edit: the word is throw as in- throw under the bus, not through. And MY GAWD, no, I did not throw Elizabeth Warren under the bus.

dr60omg

(283 posts)
60. Warren and Clinton not going to happen
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 07:30 PM
Apr 2016

Sorry but their goals and ideas about pretty much everything (particularly the economy) are anti-thetical to one another ... Warren has not even endorsed Clinton

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
68. Oh now that's funny
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:05 PM
Apr 2016

It would be extremely stupid to pick someone as VP that people would rather have at the top of the ticket. All that would do for Hillary is show everyone where she is weak on policy.

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
70. I don't think Warren would risk damaging her credibility
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:17 PM
Apr 2016

by accepting second banana and selling out.

CharlotteVale

(2,717 posts)
73. I'd bet that Hill would LOVE to have Warren as VP - because she wouldn't be able to
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:00 PM
Apr 2016

go after Wall Street the way she can as a Senator.

Cobalt Violet

(9,905 posts)
76. the Warren part might be a dream ticket.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:22 PM
Apr 2016

But the Clinton part, not so much.

I may actually vote for her in the general if picks a progressive running mate. If she picks some 3rd way asshole I won't.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
79. they have bottomed out
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:19 PM
Apr 2016

can things be so bad that they need to light off the finale now?
what do they expect to gain?
wow.

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