2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIs there a final Delegate allocation from NY yet?
can only find info from 2 days ago, and it appeared that there were still some delegates to be allocated.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)they haven't started counting provisional and absentee ballots.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)but I think I read earlier today that there were still delegates outstanding...either 5 or 8?
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/NY-D
LiberalFighter
(50,928 posts)They decide on their own who they will support. The election does not determine support for a candidate.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)glowing
(12,233 posts)northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)The networks make the tallies based on best guesses. Not sure about the set time, but they have to count and make official. With the lawsuit it could hold it up like the Arizona count got held up a little.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Gwhittey
(1,377 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)If not? Nothing should be awarded without a resolution.
How about splitting them and going on your merry way! This is the only way to stop the cheaters! Otherwise it's a mess! I think after some testimony they see no other way, than counting the ballots of those who showed up to vote! I'd go with that. I'd go with throwing it all out.
I will not accept the current result with a resolution. No one should.
Look, we sent military down to El Salvador for a lot less! FFS!
DebDoo
(319 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)DebDoo
(319 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Those affidavit ballots have always been available, and are provided for by federal law. They are also known as provisional ballots.
This article does say what you think it says.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)ballot. One counted for sure. The provisionals are looked over if the count would change, to verify them. the judge in person verified the affidavit voters and they went to vote firmly legit.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)I know the narrative would seem like more of win with your interpretation, but the reality is:
http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/provisional-ballots.aspx
Provisional ballot=affidavit ballot=challenge ballot
http://www.sos.ms.gov/links/elections/ECAM/2014/Municipal%20Affidavit%20Ballot%20Procedures%202.2.14.pdf
Pg 2, affidavit ballot=provisional ballot
http://www.sos.ms.gov/links/elections/ECAM/2014/Municipal%20Affidavit%20Ballot%20Procedures%202.2.14.pdf
affidavit ballot not a given that they will be counted...first to be verified that the voter is truthful in the Election staff making a mistake...and not that they are simply trying to get around the current election or registration rules.
http://vote.nyc.ny.us/html/voters/faq.shtml#q19
Look under "What if I'm not permitted to vote:" One option is the use of an affidavit ballot...no new law, already in place
http://www.votersearch.org/reference.php
Affidavit ballots already permitted by State and Federal law...no law suit required to file
next time do some fucking homework before banging out untruths on your keyboard, trying to sell something that is false.
Bottom line, law suits do not play into affidavit ballots and certainly not the one filed the day of elections in NY.
onenote
(42,703 posts)on the Internet, but I can't find anything.
So it sounds like you've just spread an unfounded rumor.
DebDoo
(319 posts)onenote
(42,703 posts)You claimed two counties won their suits to have affidavit votes counted.
The article you link to is about one county, doesn't say anything about a lawsuit, and points out the completely unsurprising and ordinary process in which affidavit votes are reviewed after the fact to determine if they should be counted.
In other words, your claim of some lawsuit forcing affidavit votes to be counted is bogus.
DebDoo
(319 posts)I may have misspoken about the lawsuit part of it. But regardless, the votes will be counted.
Clinton county is also counting affidavit votes from people whose party affiliation incorrectly changed.
onenote
(42,703 posts)and if it is determined that they should've been counted, they'll be counted. Many will not be counted because it will turn out that the person casting the vote wasn't properly registered.
All counties that have affidavit votes will review them. There is nothing unique about that. Why do you think they allow affidavit ballots if not for the purpose of reviewing them and deciding whether to accept them?
DebDoo
(319 posts)Their party was switched without their knowledge or they were incorrectly purged. That's the big takeaway
DebDoo
(319 posts)"There was a recourse for voters who believed the Board of Elections' records were wrong. If their name didn't appear at all, or if the party affiliation was wrong, voters could fill out an affidavit ballot. That document records their vote and gives the voter an opportunity to explain why their vote should be counted.
Van Varick said they received a few thousand of these affidavit ballots on Tuesday. Election commissioners will be reviewing each one in the coming days and make decisions on a case-by-case basis."
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Last edited Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:41 AM - Edit history (1)
And has nothing to do with the law suit.
Look it up.
I know the narrative would seem like more of win with you interpretation but the reality is:
http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/provisional-ballots.aspx
Provisional ballot=affidavit ballot=challenge ballot
http://www.sos.ms.gov/links/elections/ECAM/2014/Municipal%20Affidavit%20Ballot%20Procedures%202.2.14.pdf
Pg 2, affidavit ballot=provisional ballot
http://www.sos.ms.gov/links/elections/ECAM/2014/Municipal%20Affidavit%20Ballot%20Procedures%202.2.14.pdf
affidavit ballot not a given that they will be counted...first to be verified that the voter is truthful in the Election staff making a mistake...and not that they are simply trying to get around the current election rules.
http://vote.nyc.ny.us/html/voters/faq.shtml#q19
Look under "What if I'm not permitted to vote:" One option is the use of an affidavit ballot...no new law, already in place
http://www.votersearch.org/reference.php
Affidavit ballots already permitted by State and Federal law...no law suit required to file
Bottom line, law suits do not play into affidavit ballots and certainly not the one filed the day of elections in NY.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)There will be a state convention that allocates another 45. These will be roughly proportionate to the vote. So the current +33 for Clinton will end up being around +38 to +41.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Actually, only 163 get allocated directly through election in district. Another 84 pledged are chosen at the state convention, but it will be proportionate to the vote (these are called "PLEO" and "At Large" .
See here:
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/NY-D
Thus 247, and the media counts are already assuming what the numbers will be after the process is completed. 139-106 = +33 for the Secretary of More War, but Gently!
The other 44 to get to 291 are... supers. And thus were already mostly "counted" for Clinton in the media counts, even before this primary. Sigh.