2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumOne thing laid bare this primary: super delegates are superfluous. NIX THEM
Both sides have used arguments that boil down to the very simple fact that super delegates are either undemocratic or superfluous.
They serve no real value. The recent mantra is that they will honor the vote of the people, following the pledged delegate winner. Okay. In that case, there is no need to have 15% of the delegates allocated to them. In fact, there is no point in having them at all if they are nothing more than a pro forma rubber stamp.
Alternatively, they vote without regard to the pledged delegate winner, but on any other standard they choose. For example, following the popular vote of the entire primary, the popular vote of whatever state they are associated with, personal connection to the candidate, the candidate who helped raise campaign funds, the candidate with the highest favorability. Or they are there to thwart the voice of the people if the party leaders feel the people are out of line. Okay. In any of those cases, the super delegates are undemocratic.
Their impotence in most races and potential anti-democratic role in others boils down to a simple and concise point. Get the fuck rid of them.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)AuntPatsy
(9,904 posts)A little history of how super delegates came to be courtesy of Snopes....very interesting..
http://www.snopes.com/2016/02/17/party-people-superdelegates/
kennetha
(3,666 posts)Primary voters tend to be aroused activists, sometimes with no sense of political reality. Especially where primaries are open, and allow people with marginal loyalty to the party, or marginal sense of political reality, they give the party check against the tides of aroused activists sweeping up the party apparatus and taking it down to defeat.
They have a real value unless you believe that the voters can never be fools.
The Republicans sure wish they had super delegates now as a way of stemming the Trump tide.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Should be pop vote, and pop vote only, even if the candidates I support never win an election again.
In addition, get rid of caucuses and closed primaries.
I want to have a say in every race that affects me, D AND R.
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)We don't have the contested primaries...like the GOP and that is a good thing unless you are a Bernie supporter...he lost by every measure...and how amusing that super delegates are Bernies' only hope. He won't get their votes...as he lost by all measures.