and what will be done to remedy the damage?

I..I think I'm being sarcastic. Actually, I'm not sure if I am.

were likely Clinton votes. She won all five boroughs, and the purged voters were from low income housing projects, not Boreham Hill.

or ridicule.

Your post just stuck me funny.

They have the right to vote. Their vote should be taken and theirs and all affidavit and all provisionals should be counted. Let them vote with absentee votes if needed. There is still time to rectify this. Also, what about the obvious forgeries?

They are treating this more like incompetence and it feels more nefarious than that. I feel like a token person is getting punished again. Then they will sweep everything under the rug. This isn't good enough.

They should be counted.

People who don't think the people they disagree with should be allowed to vote don't believe in democracy at all. Why am I not surprised?

"Forget it, Jake; It's Chinatown." - NYC Board of Elections

...he would still lose if all those votes were added. This is not a 'steal' until there is evidence to support it. Which is why there is an investigation. Although we've been told that de Blasio is part of the Establishment and can't be trusted.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

but whatever (I crack me up) of democracy remains... and how legitimate elections are (not anymore, have not been since 2000)

electronic vote counting was introduced mid 60's which co incidences with the red shift the country has supposedly gone thru

richard charnin has written a couple books that prove it mathematically but just the evidence i see in life convinces me.....most the people i know are more and more liberal and yet according to the vote counts released, we collectively are more conservative

the link i posted, that r responded to is election integrity activists that have gathered evidence that the vote counts being reported in chicago are not accurate and are actively being covered up by the board of elections there

those activists need and deserve our support

it should not be up to WE THE PEOPLE to prove elections are fraudulent,just the fact that they are conducted in secret and that the "audits" are just for show should be enough

unless the average citizen can oversee every step of the election process, it is not a free or fair election

but neither party wants to really fix it. That tells me all I need to know.

a few dems have tried

seigleman's election was stolen during the night

judge rawl in sc tried to fight it

even tho franken would never admit it, he did stick it out thru an 7 or 8 month recount

but yes the leaders of the dem party seem to be in cohoots...to me that is why we must change our leaders

in pretend elections and pretend to care. I admit, not falling in love with politicians is liberating and accepting the fascism is kind of great.

i can not give it up with out at least letting others know

we didn't actually pick these "pols" that supposedly represent us, the 1%ers that own and control the machines and the reporting sites did

as disappointed as i have been with some of obama's choices...he was smart enough to beat the system so there is hope that we collectively can "beat" it too

and democracy is admitting there is a problem, We are few. So I have taken the perverse attitude we had in Mexico when I was growing up.

And the damn pols here do not really go all the way and get us a beer and a burger... down there it was (for real) a coke and a torta I am not kidding.

When people talk about voter IDs as a solution to this, they do have a place. But only if done like it was done in Mexico. They are completely and absolutely free, they are tamper proof, you can get them at modules almost anywhere in the country, and there is pretty much no fuss or muss, as much as you deal with red tape in getting them. And if you lack birth certificates, the state will help you get one...for that purpose alone. There are other issues right now with official papers that make our red tape look transparent due to changes in law. That solved some of the double and tripple voting (for cokes and tortas) that were actually a documented problem by the UN.

So when people raise that one, I point to that system, It also made the Federal Electoral Commission get some teeth. Ours has none. For some reason fans of voter IDs don't like it done THAT WAY.

What we need is actually UN observers... and we might get them, after people continue to get pissed and continue to take to the streets.

This year I expect a hot summer. And I am not alone.

but with the push of a few buttons thousands can be disenfranchised or votes can be changed by an insider or the best hacker

illinois requires id the first time you vote if you registered on line but they take many, many forms of id from utility bills to student ids

the real problem is the hidden vote counting in the blackboxes and the reporting of votes by "mirror" websites like we saw in ohio in 2004

lots of people have called for un observers but they can not see inside the boxes anymore than we can...i am stubborn enough i want Americans to fix this by counting ourselves (or overseeing the count as the illinois ballot integrity group is trying to do)

When you bring this up. So I always counter with that one. Usually people walk away at that point. Meaning, they want it to be difficult to obtain. A federally issued one which is free addresses the issue perfectly well, but doesn't do what is truly wanted...suppress the vote


And we still need desperately UN observers

It was a coordinated effort.

Sometimes I lose confidence in the people monitoring the system.

so there has to be a fire somewhere.

I expect the usual suspects to continue to make fun of this. It is not funny.

Thanks for the thread, Luminous Animal.