2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCenk "conceded..Sanders had probably lost the primary &..Clinton’s path to victory was mo
Well well--Cenk is saying what Thom Hartmann said yesteday (more or less).
..............Cenk Uygur Warns of Anti-Hillary Dems Letting Trump Win
http://latest.com/2016/04/ive-been-to-too-many-holocaust-museums-cenk-uygur-warns-of-anti-hillary-dems-letting-trump-win/
April 20, 2016
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Cenk Uygur, host of The Young Turks, provided commentary for Tuesdays New York primary and reminded Americans that the anti-Hillary Clinton crowd was making a Donald Trump victory more than possible.
Uygurs audience tends to lean to the far left and have been vocal supporters of Bernie Sanders and his campaign. However, Uygur pointed out that the #BernieOrBust movement was dangerous and would only help Trump secure a potential victory.
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Near the end of the episode, Uygur conceded that Sanders had probably lost the primary and that Clintons path to victory was more or less secured.
pkdu
(3,977 posts)Que the backing up bus..
riversedge
(70,242 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... before long they'll be all alone, an island unto themselves. (Maybe they prefer it that way.)
egalitegirl
(362 posts)This election is different. Until now, we were allowed to discuss only certain topics. This time, the issue is Wall Street privilege and war industry. One way or the other, Wall Street and the War Machine will lose after this election.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I'll take Clinton, thanks much.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)egalitegirl
(362 posts)Issues are war and Wall Street Privilege. Hillary is for both. We can also write in Bernie and if more than 50% of the people write in Bernie, he will become President.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you, but that's never going to happen. That's not how it works. We're not electing a student council president.
JohnnyRingo
(18,636 posts)In order to be counted in many states, including here in Ohio, a candidate has to file a letter of intent to be a write in candidate. All others are discarded without a count.
So shitcan your vote if you want this November, it's probably the best thing you can do until you mature some and realize what's at stake in this election for those who are less fortunate.
http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/3513.041
actslikeacarrot
(464 posts)...if we are anti war?
p.s already given my loyalty oath but really want an answer.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)That's a direct quote.
If you honestly see no difference between that and Hillary Clinton, I can't help you.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)But I could be wrong.
Not much difference anyway.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)LuvLoogie
(7,011 posts)with his rhetoric on a daily basis. Sorry Cenk, way to alienate the only audience you had left.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,586 posts)That sounds like something from the Bush years.
northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)I watch the show every day at work. He has not. He does not like the Bernie or bust. He has said before bout the lesser of two evils. He does have issues with the HRC camp that says no independents, and then turns around and tells them they have to vote for her. He has always been the second most grounded in numbers. He has actually been a bit too set in numbers at times. But his rage you are reading is a result of the lies from HRC and the media...you know the one that shows the superdelegates all the time even though they have not voted. I am just telling you he did not start the Bernie or Bust because the HRC camp that believes this narrative will be really sad when he says to vote for Hillary and the Bernie or Bust don't...Tom interviewed the founder on his show a few weeks back. If you had access to the interweb on your aol account you could do the google and find it...
If you want proof here you go...
Bernie or Bust Victor
TYT Cenk Uygur
https://citizensagainstplutocracy.wordpress.com/about/
LuvLoogie
(7,011 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)aikoaiko
(34,172 posts)Hartmann will be shown to be a fool for saying that.
TM99
(8,352 posts)(though I do like TYT) that he believes that he and other progressive journalists will hold her feet to the fire and force her back to the traditional left of the spectrum.
That. Will. Never. Happen. Ever!
That is his blind spot, and of course he can't see it.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)It will be a pleasure to see Sanders fanatics run you jerks over!
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)to feed the hate with.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)sheshe2
(83,791 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)Our Left Media has always had to depend on "conflicting" sources of income. Viewer support hasn't panned out so they have to deal with Foundation Money...and when push comes to shove...the support often dictates just how far one can go.
So..Funders Say: "Yes we Support Liberal Style Politics" but, who do you think will deliver them and so you'd better realize that we are Dem Liberals but "WE" believe that Hillary's path of "Incrementalism" is the better way and not to attack the way we "Liberal Owners" gained the wealth that we are giving to you to support your Voice in your Internet Show.
Typical Limosene Liberals. They do much good but their sources of income are the very antithesis of what Bernie Sanders is running on in 2016.
Now if we could all support Liberal Media with our sustainable donations the way we Libs have supported Bernie (who now has more money than Hillary) then maybe we could Really Change our MSM Online so they wouldn't have to cave on us at crucial times.
Why haven't we done that? Even PBS got taken over by the Corporations like Koch Bros./Exxon Mobil and Wealthy Patrons who made money in places we might not find so helpful to the working class. Wealthy Donors may have a Liberal Bent and some Democratic Values...but, when it comes to "Radical Change"....they just aren't ever going to go there. Status Quo with a slightly "humanitarian bent" is about all you are going to get from them and the Enterprises that they Fund.
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)Should HRC win the nomination, I will have to turn
on my classical music station only.
The fight will be so ugly, that I could not stand it, and
all the RW has to do is quote Obama saying that his
former SoS was careless with the server. They won't
have to lie.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)mcar
(42,334 posts)nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)... that they'd chance Trump or Cruz. Either one of them would be worse, even, than 43. Cruz would give us a full-on Theocracy. Trump would probably have us in a nuclear war ... and the worst hair of any president in history.
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northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)Why would I hide it later? Does the truth strike a nerve?
Since I already reported you, but never mind. You just doubled down on using the crime of rape for your own gains. I worked with victims, I have known them. You are not a good person.
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northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)And as for rape victims, I've donated rather large amounts of money to that very cause. It's one that I care deeply about because people in my close family were raped. So when I saw that he cavalierly put that in one of his rambling writings, I had to call it out.
northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)You are wrong, it is that simple.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)Ignore me if you must. I always enjoy getting the last word so I see no reason to change the habits of a lifetime.
Bernie should be called out on this. Snopes investigated this and it's true:
http://www.snopes.com/bernie-sanders-essay/
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)And using it against him without understanding it and so many years later is simply vile.
Unicorn
(424 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Alfresco
(1,698 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Here's a classic example of the delusional thinking he's promoted throughout the campaign: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511391090#post12