2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSTFU and go away Bill
He doesn't seem to be able to talk without making a bigger fool of himself.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bill-clinton-blames-millennials_us_57191d13e4b0d0042da88c9f
<By way of extolling Obamas efforts at recovery, Clinton argued that the president at least brought back employment even if wages are no better.
We got our jobs back in seven and a half years, Clinton said, before coming back around to name the slackers in the economic equation.
If all the young people who claim to be disillusioned now had voted in 2010, we wouldnt have lost the Congress, and wed probably have our incomes back, he said.
Many millennials were probably too young to vote in 2010, it should be noted.>
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)were minors in high school in 2010. WTF is wrong with that man's head?
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)Bill is angry because many voters now understand that NAFTA, Welfare Reform, the Crime Bill, the Telecommunications Act and financial deregulation under his administration all had terrible long term consequences. He realizes that the antipathy to animosity that many young voters (and many older ones as well) have for Hillary also applies to him.
Gwhittey
(1,377 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)The only thing we "got back" was a trade off of highly skilled labor for entry level service industry jobs. Just who is he kidding?
And, what does it matter at this point when the words of one Clinton are just as fetid as the other trader of labor....
"Gee! We swapped the playing field so people south of the border can make a few cents more, we can make $15 dollars an hour less, and everyone at the top skims off the cream.
Big fucking deal, Bill. Ain't life on the plantation just about the perdiest thang you ever did see from the global ivory perch?
Fuck you.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)the words that come out of his mouth.
northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)failing to vote...I did, but many from all walks of life did not. But that is a known issue, and I think the Dems for one reason or another fail to get out the vote, I never saw hardcore campaigning. They just don't try it seems in the party to win mid terms. But I know one thing for sure that did not help...they did not do enough for the people to make them want to get back out. Last time I was in DC and sat in the house ans Senate balconies I saw a bunch of lazy people, no one listening, every one on phones, hardly any one there. They were fighting on immigration reform and of the few people there the republicans didn't even use their time to talk about it, they wanted to address other issues. If I did what they do at work I would be fired.
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)but had actually pursued a progressive agenda instead, he might have generated enough enthusiasm to get voters to turn out in 2010. He pretty much blew off that grassroots movement and said he had it from there once he got into the White House.
northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)But our Dems in office were cowards like they were with Bill at first as well. They get scared of losing the job because they are there for the money not the effect. I think if they had supported Obama we would have had a reason to support them, and he "may" have done more to help us. He was dealing with the most racist congress I have ever seen. (not that they were the most racist, but they were the ones that were the most obvious about it).
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)...the original wasn't really very good anyways.
He should have quit after 2008. This "reunion tour" is even worse than the last.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)But are old enough to matter, now.
And given the size of the Millennial generation, that makes a difference. It is why there has been a rapid public opinion sea change on things like marriage equality and pot legalization.
But I guess the people who still think it's 1996 can be forgiven for having trouble distinguishing between 2010 and 2016.
snowy owl
(2,145 posts)Giving the congress to Republicans was stupid. People who did that are probably sorry now - if they can even comprehend what they did. Are those our infamous tea partiers now?
And Clinton did raise the taxes on the rich as I recall. He wasn't all bad but I voted Green his second term. No, I didn't like him but I'm trying to be fair.
And it was Hillary who moved Bill to the right in Arkansas. I wonder if she introduced Rahm to him . . . just sayin'
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)You can't jack up all that rhetoric and then cover up war crimes without disillusioning a whole lot of people.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)There were a lot of millennials of voting age who did not turnout in the midterm elections. There is very little enthusiasm among young people outside of presidential elections. That needs to change.
onecaliberal
(32,863 posts)Pissed away because of that greedy fuck and his ilk. Go the fuck away.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)Making fun of them of course isn't likely to win them over.
blue neen
(12,321 posts)It would not be okay to tell any other Democratic Presidential candidate's spouse to STFU and go away.
It's not okay in this case either.
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)Maybe some of those young people who claim to be disillusioned and are bitching about their incomes should get off their rear ends and give some $225,000 speeches to Wall Street and other corporate interests.
quickesst
(6,280 posts)"Many millennials were probably too young to vote in 2010, it should be noted."
If someone was 18 to 22 years old in 2010 that would make them between 24 + 28 now. Are they still part of the "young" group that claims to be concerned yet failed to show up and vote for Bernie this time around, or is that now considered over the hill? Face it, showing up to vote is not nearly as much fun as going to a rally /party with thousands of other people your age. I can say this because I used to be one of them.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)And they put progressives in power in their local governments AND they also put progressive issues on their local ballots and WON.
What they didn't do was put Third Way candidates back in office. The people warned the Dem party to give them candidates they could vote for. His buddy, DWS and her Third Way cohorts, refused to listen to the people.
So, those are the consequences Bill. When you refuse to listen to the people, then you say things like this, and you LOSE elections.
This IS a democracy, he seems to think that voters have to do what HE tells them to do. Sorry, Bill, we spent years rescuing you from your own irresponsible behavior, you're not one to tell young people about behaving responsibly