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IF Hillary is the nominee and is indicted in October by the FBI.... (Original Post) pinebox Apr 2016 OP
And what if Trump is abducted by aliens? And and and ... Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #1
Yeah, it's total science fiction, like the idea... JackRiddler Apr 2016 #21
And who predicted the Royals would win it all last year? Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #46
wow, maybe you could be a little more arrogant next time. Cobalt Violet Apr 2016 #32
That was ridicule, not arrogance. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #44
Most rational humans wouldn't even consider someone under FBI investigation as a nominee. Cobalt Violet Apr 2016 #53
Gee. That means Sanders has no appeal among all those millions and millions of irrational voters. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #59
It's not his fault people are stupid. Cobalt Violet Apr 2016 #61
Actually, if we're assessing blame for anything, I'm blaming you. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #72
You're so enamored with Clinton you've lost the ability to be objective. think Apr 2016 #76
Not at all. I support her over Sanders, but that was not the case in December. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #78
ok think Apr 2016 #79
Which issues you studied show HRC to be the superior choice? panader0 Apr 2016 #85
Beat me to it rock Apr 2016 #80
if she manages to win the primary silvershadow Apr 2016 #2
Not snark: "leave the party"? Recursion Apr 2016 #4
yes sorry. Just corrected Siri silvershadow Apr 2016 #7
Well would she still be the nominee? pinebox Apr 2016 #5
I don't think nominee can be replaced that late. jfern Apr 2016 #3
Ok thanks pinebox Apr 2016 #6
That'll happen when pigs fly... apcalc Apr 2016 #8
Care to answer my question? pinebox Apr 2016 #9
Be on the lookout... k8conant Apr 2016 #12
How much is he paying? Cobalt Violet Apr 2016 #35
There might be some rules made about exactly that Waiting For Everyman Apr 2016 #10
It looks as if the Democratic Party would pick the new Presidential nominee if Hillary withdrew... k8conant Apr 2016 #11
Nonsensical question. Downwinder Apr 2016 #13
Technically yes you can pinebox Apr 2016 #16
True enough. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #23
The Mayor of Honolulu told his Lawyer. Downwinder Apr 2016 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #36
There are already bars around the White House. Downwinder Apr 2016 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #45
There was Nancy. Downwinder Apr 2016 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #51
Primary care giver for dementia is about the same Downwinder Apr 2016 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #62
So The 'Big House' Becomes The 'White House'?....nt global1 Apr 2016 #50
RE: Nonsensical question eastsidemanglerNY Apr 2016 #74
According to Wikipedia. Downwinder Apr 2016 #77
fbi does not indict....it takes a grand jury...a judge...FBi investigates beachbum bob Apr 2016 #14
Care to answer my question pinebox Apr 2016 #17
May be honest but it's stupid dlwickham Apr 2016 #22
Yawn pinebox Apr 2016 #25
Go find another sandbox to pee in. Cobalt Violet Apr 2016 #47
so arrogant. Cobalt Violet Apr 2016 #42
"Lynch confirms career Justice Department attorneys involved in Clinton email probe" IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #84
. stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #15
You guys keep posting this as if it's a mantra for you. randome Apr 2016 #18
Our dream is NOT sad: k8conant Apr 2016 #19
Dreaming of a true leader is inspiring. randome Apr 2016 #20
Well, I'm not dreaming of a true leader (you may be), k8conant Apr 2016 #26
I'm saying Sanders is inspirational and would make a great President. randome Apr 2016 #63
I'm asking an honest question pinebox Apr 2016 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #39
It isn't vitriol. It's disappointment in seeing this possibility being promoted over and over again. randome Apr 2016 #66
What do you mean TeddyR Apr 2016 #68
"Matters related to..." is not the same as investigating her. That's been said before in this forum. randome Apr 2016 #70
Ok thanks TeddyR Apr 2016 #71
It's vitriol pinebox Apr 2016 #83
It will be a mess. But what can we expect from Hillary Clinton... Peace Patriot Apr 2016 #24
good summation. what a mess. Merryland Apr 2016 #31
Immaterial Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #29
the horrific thing is Merryland Apr 2016 #33
We owe her, apparently Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #34
That's what I want to know as well. mmonk Apr 2016 #30
The ticket wouldn't change but... Renew Deal Apr 2016 #37
Interesting pinebox Apr 2016 #38
Legally they would be on the ballot Renew Deal Apr 2016 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #43
The FBI does not indict people, TexasTowelie Apr 2016 #48
nobody asked that question. Cobalt Violet Apr 2016 #54
The FBI can't indict anyone. Adrahil Apr 2016 #52
well that doesn't answer the question, it just nags the questioner. Cobalt Violet Apr 2016 #55
There is no way DOJ indicts in October. Adrahil Apr 2016 #57
Comey recently said the convention is not a deadline. mmonk Apr 2016 #64
I know. But he is aware of the electoral ramifications. Adrahil Apr 2016 #75
Probably would be a good idea to push for some rules on this kind of possible situation floppyboo Apr 2016 #58
That's a good question. Not just for the indictment scenario, but for anything Vinca Apr 2016 #60
My guess is that Biden would be selected as the nominee by the party TeddyR Apr 2016 #65
That's a likely scenario. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2016 #67
Yeah, Biden would drop in through the roof at the last minute, like batman. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #69
The report will be out long before that. DCBob Apr 2016 #73
Here's an article from 2008 that I think answers this Bob41213 Apr 2016 #81
Like you, I don't know, but think it will still be Hillary Clinton karynnj Apr 2016 #82
 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
21. Yeah, it's total science fiction, like the idea...
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:14 AM
Apr 2016

that Bill Clinton would have been impeached over total bullshit that the Cassandras had back in 1998. Oh, wait...

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
44. That was ridicule, not arrogance.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:31 AM
Apr 2016

The endless repetition of "FBI investigation! Pending indictment!" has been going on daily for months.

Most rational humans would get a clue by now -- it ain't happening.
^^^^^arrogance^^^^^^^

Cobalt Violet

(9,905 posts)
53. Most rational humans wouldn't even consider someone under FBI investigation as a nominee.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:39 AM
Apr 2016

You better get use to it. Do you think Republicans are going to easy on her? You are going hear it a lot more. You haven't heard anything yet. None stop scandal all the time is all you will heard.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
59. Gee. That means Sanders has no appeal among all those millions and millions of irrational voters.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:49 AM
Apr 2016

Bummer.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
72. Actually, if we're assessing blame for anything, I'm blaming you.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:44 AM
Apr 2016

You and too many of Sanders's fans think that they are the only ones capable of thinking. So, when things don't go their way, they assume it's due to the stupidity of the opposition. It is not.

Give the opposition some credit and some hard thinking about why Sanders is losing. (Hint: it isn't voter suppression)

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
78. Not at all. I support her over Sanders, but that was not the case in December.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:11 AM
Apr 2016

I studied the issues, studied the positions of both candidates, and decided Hillary was the superior choice.

Again, you assume no one out there is thinking, and you are wrong.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
85. Which issues you studied show HRC to be the superior choice?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:04 PM
Apr 2016

I believe that Bernie, although an Independent in the Senate, has by far the more traditional
Democratic Party values than HRC.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
2. if she manages to win the primary
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:32 AM
Apr 2016

if she manages to win the primary but is still under investigation, I will leave the party the day she has nominated and I will not return. I refused to have the taint associated with me. Besides I would not vote for her in the general as I have stated.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
4. Not snark: "leave the party"?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:39 AM
Apr 2016

Just trying to parse "need the Parnie" (I post on mobile too so I know what it's like)

jfern

(5,204 posts)
3. I don't think nominee can be replaced that late.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:35 AM
Apr 2016

If the President elect refuses office, then VP elect becomes President.

It may be possible to replace the nominee some time after the convention. The Democratic VP nominee was replaced after the 1972 DNC.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
9. Care to answer my question?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:51 AM
Apr 2016

I didn't ask your opinion if it would happen, I asked how the scenario plays out.
Pay attention please.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
10. There might be some rules made about exactly that
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:52 AM
Apr 2016

at the convention, and if so, we (all of us and Bernie) should keep a close eye on that and who gets chosen to decide it. Because that exact scenario that you raise might be on some minds, as being some business they have to take care of.

They would probably want to do it under the radar and to HRC's advantage, if they can get away with it.

Good question.

k8conant

(3,030 posts)
11. It looks as if the Democratic Party would pick the new Presidential nominee if Hillary withdrew...
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:52 AM
Apr 2016

but her withdrawal wouldn't be a given. (She could still run under indictment.)

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
16. Technically yes you can
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:00 AM
Apr 2016

However what would happen if she is indicted? I am wondering how the scenario plays out because I don't see Dems letting her continue. So who gets it? Her VP pick or Sanders or whom? Biden?

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)
28. The Mayor of Honolulu told his Lawyer.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:19 AM
Apr 2016

You handle the Court case I'll handle the Campaign.

He won both.

Response to Downwinder (Reply #13)

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)
41. There are already bars around the White House.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:29 AM
Apr 2016

Like the Border fence. Fences keep people in as well as out.

Response to Downwinder (Reply #41)

Response to Downwinder (Reply #49)

Response to Downwinder (Reply #56)

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)
77. According to Wikipedia.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:05 AM
Apr 2016

During his 4th and final term as Mayor of Boston, he served time in Danbury Prison for a felony conviction.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
14. fbi does not indict....it takes a grand jury...a judge...FBi investigates
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:58 AM
Apr 2016

glad you didn't mention Bengazhi too

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
17. Care to answer my question
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:01 AM
Apr 2016

It was an honest question because I don't know so please put your Popsicle flavored branding iron away

dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
22. May be honest but it's stupid
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:14 AM
Apr 2016

Really tired of the Bern bros posting these "honest questions" designed to slam Hillary

Bernie is not going to be the Democratic nominee

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
25. Yawn
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:17 AM
Apr 2016

Ask a honest question around and people come out in droves trying to distract things.
I didn't ask if he was going to be the nominee or not.
Answer my question or are you unable to?

Bernie Bros?

Sorry I can't hear you over the sound of my milk pouring.

Cobalt Violet

(9,905 posts)
47. Go find another sandbox to pee in.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:32 AM
Apr 2016

Let us adults have a conversation about important issues that may effect our lives for years to come.

Cobalt Violet

(9,905 posts)
42. so arrogant.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:30 AM
Apr 2016

If you have nothing to contribute maybe you could find another sandbox to pee in. Please let us adult have a conversation about important issues that could effect our lives for years to come. Surely there is another sandbox around here where they would welcome you. Try the Hillary Group.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
84. "Lynch confirms career Justice Department attorneys involved in Clinton email probe"
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:51 PM
Apr 2016

You may have missed the February 25, 2016 story about this because the two reporters are from "FOX News".

Lynch confirms career Justice Department attorneys involved in Clinton email probe
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/25/lynch-confirms-career-justice-department-attorneys-involved-in-clinton-email-probe.html

Attorney General Loretta Lynch confirmed to Congress Wednesday that career Justice Department attorneys are working with FBI agents on the criminal investigation of Hillary Clinton’s email practices and the handling of classified material.

Legal experts say the assignment of career Justice Department attorneys to the case shows the FBI probe has progressed beyond the initial referral, or "matured," giving agents access to the U.S. government’s full investigative tool box, including subpoena power for individuals, business or phone records, as well as witnesses.

The Associated Press reported earlier this month that career lawyers were involved, but Lynch's comments are the most expansive to Congress.

"If the FBI makes the case that Hillary Clinton mishandled classified information and put America's security at risk, will you prosecute the case?” Republican Congressman John Carter asked Lynch during a budget hearing.

"Do you know of any efforts underway to undermine the FBI's investigation? And please look the American people in the eye and tell us what your position is as you are the chief prosecutor of the United States," Carter pressed.

Lynch replied, "...that matter is being handled by career independent law enforcement agents, FBI agents as well as the career independent attorneys in the Department of Justice. They follow the evidence, they look at the law and they'll make a recommendation to me when the time is appropriate,"

(more at link)
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
18. You guys keep posting this as if it's a mantra for you.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:03 AM
Apr 2016

You don't think, you just dream of an indictment. What if...what if...what if... The rest of us are moving on to important matters but you keep clinging to your sad dream.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
20. Dreaming of a true leader is inspiring.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:12 AM
Apr 2016

Dreaming of an indictment for Clinton is sad. IMO.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

k8conant

(3,030 posts)
26. Well, I'm not dreaming of a true leader (you may be),
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:18 AM
Apr 2016

rather I'm supporting a leader who shares my dream of a future to believe in.


Principles not Personalities

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
63. I'm saying Sanders is inspirational and would make a great President.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:04 AM
Apr 2016

I also happen to think the same about Clinton. To be honest, her 'inspiration' could do with a little touch-up, but she will be great as President. IMO.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
27. I'm asking an honest question
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:18 AM
Apr 2016

Why is that so hard to comprehend?
Care to answer it? Maybe go back and re-read what I asked and specifically see "honest question".
I'm trying to understand how this would happen under the political process.
Put your vitriol away

Response to pinebox (Reply #27)

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
66. It isn't vitriol. It's disappointment in seeing this possibility being promoted over and over again.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:12 AM
Apr 2016

'What happens if Clinton is hit by a meteor?' would be just as relevant. She isn't even under investigation so the subtext of these sort of questions is always to remind us that you're hoping for this to change. At least that's how it seems to me.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
68. What do you mean
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:23 AM
Apr 2016

"She isn't even under investigation"? I haven't heard that before.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/fbi-formally-confirms-its-investigation-hillary-clintons-email-server

In a letter disclosed Monday in a federal court filing, the FBI confirms one of the world’s worst-kept secrets: It is looking into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server.

Why say this at all, since it was widely known to be true? Because in August in response to a judge’s direction, the State Department asked the FBI for information about what it was up to. Sorry, the FBI said at the time, we can neither confirm nor deny the existence of any investigation.

Now, in a letter dated February 2 and filed in court Monday, the FBI’s general counsel, James Baker, notes that in public statements and congressional testimony, the FBI “has acknowledged generally that it is working on matters related to former Secretary Clinton’s use of a private email server.”


Is this like arguing what the meaning of "is" is?
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
70. "Matters related to..." is not the same as investigating her. That's been said before in this forum.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:32 AM
Apr 2016

I'm rarely willing to go out on a limb, I'm rather cautious about making pronouncements about things that are out of my control but I feel comfortable saying this: there will be no indictment.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
71. Ok thanks
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:36 AM
Apr 2016

I disagree and it seems like this is simply semantics - if someone was investigating your use of a server would you argue that you weren't under investigation? But i do agree that she probably won't be indicted.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
83. It's vitriol
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:42 PM
Apr 2016
"The rest of us are moving on to important matters but you keep clinging to your sad dream."
You're spinning. I don't especially care what you think, I stated I asked an actual question because I didn't know. I'm sorry you can't seem to get that, not my problem.

Welcome to my ignore list.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
24. It will be a mess. But what can we expect from Hillary Clinton...
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:16 AM
Apr 2016

...whose tangle of corruption is like an octopus gripping her candidacy, with tentacles in the State Department, in the Clinton Foundation, in her basement where her private email resided, in the emails themselves, in her donors, in her secret $225,000 speeches to Wall Street firms, in the arms deals with foreign governments, in voter suppression that favors only her candidacy, in one of her secret advisers (Sydney Blumenthal) and two of her known ones (Robert Kagan-PNAC, and Henry Fucking Kissinger), in Libya, in Honduras...

Really, what is to be expected of this but a chaotic mess, wherein somebody will have to choose between a VP candidate that an indicted Clinton chose, and the other candidate--Bernie Sanders--the man who tried to warn us in his gentlemanly way?

Who knows? Clinton owns the Democratic Party leadership at this point (or, say, 95% of it). DWS and the super-delegate pawns. What would they do? Whatever they would do, it's likely to be in secret with only themselves and a few billionaires invited. There is no protocol for it, that I know of. They will probably get together and anoint Clinton's choice, who will then lose the election. So it won't matter what they do. And Clinton will have destroyed her bought-and-paid-for party.

Oh, yeah, and they might invite Obama and Biden to weigh in. Gawd, what a mess it would be!

I think it's much more likely that the FBI is protecting Clinton than planning to recommend indictment, no matter what laws she may have broken, no matter what malfeasance she is guilty of. She is one of the rich and powerful, and we know how justice goes in that regard. But I really, really don't know.

All we can do is get familiar with what is known and speculate. The lingering cloud of this year long investigation with no end in sight may point to protection, i.e., they're keeping the RW morons in Congress at bay while this very rich and very well-connected person arranges her coronation. That seems plausible to me. But maybe not. There could be things going on behind the scenes (CIA? NSA? Pentagon? White House-Obama? Kerry's State Dept.?) that we can't know and will never know. And the thing could be quite straight--she violated some national security procedures and FOIA laws, and the FBI is establishing that, or not establishing it, and will tell us some day. Could also be that aides are falling on their swords, with the FBI either okay with that, or pushing deeper.

A couple of things make it look serious: The State Dept. backing off (or being pushed out). Involvement of DOJ. Involvement of NSA. Immunization of at least one witness. A lot of agents involved over a long period of time.

Is it just being made to look serious? Or is it serious? Dunno.

Who would be the nominee in that case? God only knows.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
29. Immaterial
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:20 AM
Apr 2016

If she's indicted before election day the damage will be absolute. If she were to continue t run or the party manages some gymnastics to front another candidate all the voters will see is a party that tried its best to hoist a criminal into the nation's highest office. At that point we'd be just as well off by trying to running Richard Nixon.

Merryland

(1,134 posts)
33. the horrific thing is
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:22 AM
Apr 2016

that she probably wouldn't drop out - Good Lord, they'd have to drag her off the national stage with a hook!

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
30. That's what I want to know as well.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:20 AM
Apr 2016

Will they just pick someone without the votes from the people? Will there be an internal struggle for power? Will there be any precedents set?

Renew Deal

(81,861 posts)
37. The ticket wouldn't change but...
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:25 AM
Apr 2016

She likely loses. If she wins she either stays on the ticket and becomes president or the Electors would choose whoever they want. First to 270 wins. Chances are Democrats would propose someone.

It's basically the same thing that would happen if a candidate died between the end of the convention and Dec. 31.

Renew Deal

(81,861 posts)
40. Legally they would be on the ballot
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:27 AM
Apr 2016

And it probably couldn't change in most states. I added one more comment to the other post.

Response to pinebox (Original post)

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
57. There is no way DOJ indicts in October.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:43 AM
Apr 2016

If we get to the end of May, and thee is not report, then there are political shenanigans going on at the FBI.

No I think there is zeromchance of indictment against Hillary at all. But if it were to happen, it would be in May or June. No way it comes after the convention.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
75. I know. But he is aware of the electoral ramifications.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:53 AM
Apr 2016

He will at least signal the gist of his report to the DoJ by the end of May.

There really is no reason to stretch this out beyond then.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
58. Probably would be a good idea to push for some rules on this kind of possible situation
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:43 AM
Apr 2016

at the convention. Forget about the Hillary thing for now - there should be a contingency plan in place that is transparent. If the insiders hold the power of decision in this hypothetical situation, I'm sure informed party members of the DEMOCRATIC party will revolt. Check the calendar - its 2016. So much information and public power.

Vinca

(50,276 posts)
60. That's a good question. Not just for the indictment scenario, but for anything
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:54 AM
Apr 2016

that might happen before an election. People die out of the blue, too. There should be some guidance for such an event.

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
65. My guess is that Biden would be selected as the nominee by the party
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:07 AM
Apr 2016

Unless Bernie wins the nomination (which he isn't going to) I don't see any way that he's the nominee if Hills is indicted.

Sort of amazing/shocking/sad that the leading candidate for the Dem nomination is under active investigation by the FBI. Always felt that a federal investigation disqualified you from running. Guess not for a Clinton.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
69. Yeah, Biden would drop in through the roof at the last minute, like batman.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:24 AM
Apr 2016

Ot mighty mouse "here i come, to save the daaaaa--aaaaay!"

Which is depressing, because Biden is the one guy i would want up there LESS than hillary.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
73. The report will be out long before that.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:44 AM
Apr 2016

I suspect early to mid summer. Be patient.. it will all be settled soon.

Bob41213

(491 posts)
81. Here's an article from 2008 that I think answers this
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:00 AM
Apr 2016

It looks into what happens if the nominees die (both R and D): http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2008/09/dead_by_election_day.html

I think it broaches just what you talk about because it assumes the convention has occurred.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
82. Like you, I don't know, but think it will still be Hillary Clinton
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:13 AM
Apr 2016

Because it has never been a likelihood, I have never heard what would happen in any past election and I would bet that there is NOTHING in the Democratic party rules that she would have to step down. In addition, as you posit October, there is a problem that the ballots are already set and many may have already been sent out - especially to the military and other people overseas.

Not to mention, being indicted does not imply conviction. I hope this does not come to pass, but if it did, it opens what we really believe on "innocent until proven guilty". To demand that HRC step down, losing her chance to be President means that - even if she is found to be not guilty - she will have paid an enormous price.

If she stepped down, I assume that it might depend on when. If it after the ballots could be changed, I think her name would still be on it - leading to a pretty murky mess. Otherwise, if it is after the convention, I assume it would be the VP. I do not see any reason why it would go to Sanders.

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