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silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:34 AM Apr 2016

Hillary Clinton's union problem

Hillary Clinton's union problem
Teachers have yet to unite behind Clinton, the latest sign that she is struggling to lock down an important chunk of the Democratic base.
By Maggie Severns
04/06/16 07:01 PM EDT
Updated 04/06/16 08:14 PM EDT

Teachers unions were among the earliest and most enthusiastic supporters of Hillary Clinton, with the American Federation of Teachers calling her “the champion working families need” and powerful AFT President Randi Weingarten hugging her on stage.

“Hillary Clinton, a product of public schools herself, believes in the promise of public education,” Weingarten declared.

The only hitch in Clinton’s plans to rally this vital Democratic constituency: Teachers aren’t fully on board. Bernie Sanders netted more money from people who listed themselves as teachers and educators than Clinton in February, according to a POLITICO analysis of FEC records.

The Vermont senator received more than 9,000 donations and raised more than $413,000 from people who identified themselves as teachers or educators, surpassing the $394,000 raised by Clinton from about 4,500 such donors during the same month.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/teachers-sanders-clinton-unions-221661#ixzz46Yublvlg
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Hillary Clinton's union problem (Original Post) silvershadow Apr 2016 OP
Meh...better than having a vote problem, like Bernie. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #1
WHO has a vote problem??? The only ones with a VOTE PROBLEM are the VOTERS! ViseGrip Apr 2016 #4
PS. You misidentify the problem: we have a YUGE vote problem, at least others noticed! ViseGrip Apr 2016 #5
Yeah, all those union endorsements must be a big problem for her. onehandle Apr 2016 #2
A point that should be brought up ALL THE TIME regarding endorsements. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #3
^^THIS^^ ViseGrip Apr 2016 #6
^^this. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #8
I was the only non-union member in a Chicago bar the night protestors shut down Chicago Trump rally. ieoeja Apr 2016 #11
That's simply not true... Sancho Apr 2016 #14
+1 Wonder how the Democratic Party is going to work with no people behind it. NT Joob Apr 2016 #15
Once teachers think about TISA and Gems Educations that paid Bill Clinton 2.1 million Skwmom Apr 2016 #7
Walmart salutes you! Octafish Apr 2016 #9
Hillary is sucking up the money from Verizon, while the CWA & Ibew walk the picket lines. But ,,,,,, dmosh42 Apr 2016 #10
Kickin' Faux pas Apr 2016 #12
Actually, she's doing awesome with unions and it's a real head scratcher. We didn't split from WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #13
I guess that's why all the Hillary shirts went like hotcakes at the CFT convention last month. Starry Messenger Apr 2016 #16
in CA, AFT members endorsed Bernie quite a while ago.... amborin Apr 2016 #17
So many issues with unicorn's this year! Dem2 Apr 2016 #18
 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
4. WHO has a vote problem??? The only ones with a VOTE PROBLEM are the VOTERS!
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:43 AM
Apr 2016

You have already forgotten, and here you are....oh...better than having a vote problem. You bet it's better! And I'll bet you have NO idea what it's like to be refused at a polling place, when you ARE a voter.

Democrats always put that first. But you must be part of the 'new' democrats, that are ready to fold into the 'new' republican party.

I won't be joining anyone with thinking like this. You would think you were talking about someone worth despising. You, are counter productive.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
2. Yeah, all those union endorsements must be a big problem for her.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:42 AM
Apr 2016

Teachers will be with her by the convention.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
3. A point that should be brought up ALL THE TIME regarding endorsements.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:42 AM
Apr 2016

On one show they had a list of all the Organizations that endorsed Democratic candidates.

They listed the Union, the Candidate they endorsed and the METHOD of endorsement.

What does "method" mean?

EVERY organization that endorsed Hillary it was the LEADERS who endorsed her.

EVERY organization that endorsed Bernie it was done by polling the MEMBERSHIP.


Get it? The few people of the ESTABLISHMENT endorse Hillary,
the actual PEOPLE who are MEMBERS endorse Bernie.



Yuuuuuuge difference!

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
11. I was the only non-union member in a Chicago bar the night protestors shut down Chicago Trump rally.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:03 AM
Apr 2016

Everyone was laughing and cheering on the protestors when the one Republican (a fireman) said, "but there is no way I could ever vote for Hillary either."

All but one person in the bar echoed that sentiment. The one person who did not was visibily shocked. He knew these guys for decades, and they had always voted the party line. He was also, unlike the others, a union rep.

There is a huge disconnect between union leadership and membership this election.

Of course, they have completely different reasons for their decisions. Leadership is pro-Clinton so they can have access to possibly sway her actions and at least mitigate the damage she will do. Since members are not the ones who will be talking to Hillary after the election, they are anti-Clinton because the Clintons are anti-union. Both sides are making a sensible decision for the role they play.


Sancho

(9,070 posts)
14. That's simply not true...
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:19 AM
Apr 2016

I'm an educator in Florida and a member of the union. I'm also a local officer. We polled members, held chapter and statewide meetings, and looked at candidate information.

Our membership overwhelming went for Hillary. Bernie was third.

Our endorsement of Hillary had nothing to do with "establishment". Hillary is the best candidate to represent educators based on experience and proposed policy.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
7. Once teachers think about TISA and Gems Educations that paid Bill Clinton 2.1 million
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:46 AM
Apr 2016

I think more of them will pass on Clinton.

And as Young Turks pointed out, once something is privatized in the U.S., under TISA it can never be made public again.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
9. Walmart salutes you!
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:57 AM
Apr 2016

At Walmart, no union means no problem.

Hmm. Now which Democratic candidate running for president in 2016 who served on Walmart's BoD for six years?

dmosh42

(2,217 posts)
10. Hillary is sucking up the money from Verizon, while the CWA & Ibew walk the picket lines. But ,,,,,,
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:59 AM
Apr 2016

at least Bernie shows up!

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
13. Actually, she's doing awesome with unions and it's a real head scratcher. We didn't split from
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:12 AM
Apr 2016

national, which endorsed Hillary, but the consensus among our local is Bernie. Disappointed in labor in general, considering we'll get more of the same from Hill as we got from Obama.

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