2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIn Passover Article, Hillary Clinton Implies Rival Bernie Sanders Is Betraying Jews
http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/in_passover_article_hillary_clinton_accuses_sanders_of_20160421In Passover Article, Hillary Clinton Implies Rival Bernie Sanders Is Betraying Jews
On the website of The Times of Israel on Sunday night, Hillary Clinton published a blog post doing what can only be described as goysplaining, which is when a non-Jew condescendingly accuses a Jew of betraying his own people for criticizing Israel, writes Ben Norton at Salon.
In the article, titled Fighting oppression, inequality and injustice on Passover, Clinton told the Biblical story of Exodus and stressed that lessons should be drawn from it for today.
With hawkish right-wing rhetoric, Clinton steadfastly defended the Israeli government. She conflated the Jewish religion with the state of Israel and condemned critics of the government as anti-Semitic.
Ive proudly stood with the State of Israel for my entire career, making sure it always has the resources it needs to maintain its qualitative military edge, Clinton wrote, bragging about her work to boost U.S. military funding for Israel.
Protecting allies and partners like Israel is one of the most solemn duties of any Commander-in-Chief. Yet others in this race suggest we must remain neutral in order to negotiate, Clinton added, in a jab at her opponent Bernie Sanders.
Clinton implied Sanders is being derelict in his duties as a Jew and betraying his own people by criticizing Israel and its crimes.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)That's throwing red meat to her supporters.
villager
(26,001 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)Not uniting behind that.
monmouth4
(9,708 posts)FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)Detest and loathe come close, but not close enough.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)No, she didn't.
The writer of the article in the OP is reading things that are not there.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"Clinton implied Sanders is being derelict..."
Seems as though the author of this opinion piece is unaware of the relevant difference between inference and implication... or simply (in his words) "conflates" the two.
icecreamfan
(115 posts)jmg257
(11,996 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)BreakfastClub
(765 posts)shalafi
(53 posts)not interpretation, Third Way Clinton supporter. Your presence serves no-one and insults Democrats.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Samantha
(9,314 posts)Bernie Sanders is a secular Jew. He is proud of his heritage but describes himself as "not particularly religious."
http://www.worldreligionnews.com/religion-news/judaism/bernie-sanders-religion-and-religious-beliefs
Sanders considers himself a secular Jew but only in heritage or tradition and not necessarily religious. In a media interview last year, he cites Im proud to be Jewish but eventually added that Im not particularly religious. Sanders was a descendant of a Polish Jewish family who migrated to the U.S. during the great depression and Holocaust period. He was born in Brooklyn, New York in 1941 and since childhood he was raised in Jewish tradition and has also attended Hebrew school.
In Feelthebern.org which serves as an informative campaign website for the presidential nominee, Bernie Sanders is said to be a firm believer of the constitutional provision of church and state separation, religious freedom as well as non-faith expression, and of social and economic justice.
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The senator is also a firm believer of religious freedom, the non-discriminatory right to express faith or non-faith. For him religious freedom is the right to be protected if choosing to practice and express faith in a lawful manner. He also believes that having such freedom does not entitle an individual to impose his/her belief on others. The website also cited examples wherein employers shouldnt be allowed to impose their religious beliefs or rules to their employees.
Read more at World Religion News: "Bernie Sanders Religion and Religious Beliefs" http://wp.me/p45VCq-5Sj
The Clinton campaign said it was taking off the gloves, but it does not do well with landing blows. But shame on them anyway for venturing into this terrain.
Sam
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Samantha
(9,314 posts)She is just so corrupt, and the unbelievable thing about it is that she doesn't even tried to hide it. Looking at the people she pays to work on her campaign and hearing the things they say, including accusing Sanders of being racist and sexist, is beyond the pale. I don't think the whispers even of all of the "irregularities" in so many state primaries and/or caucuses bother either her or Bill.
So then when one turns his or her attention to the FBI investigation and starts reading all of the details, and listening to the speculations on whether or not she will be indicted, one starts to ask in what world do I live in now where the possible next President of the United States has obviously committed serious security breaches and is also being looked at for pay-to-play public corruption, how is it possible that consideration is still being given to her as the leader of the so-called free world? Just how can this be? I don't understand why she has not been asked to withdraw regardless of whether or not she is indicted when her own words in her own communications prove she is not fit to be entrusted with the security of this nation and its relationship with other countries.
Sam
Uncle Joe
(58,365 posts)(snip)
Jack Keane is one of the intellectual architects of the Iraq surge; he is also perhaps the greatest single influence on the way Hillary Clinton thinks about military issues. A bear of a man with a jowly, careworn face and Brylcreem-slicked hair, Keane exudes the supreme self-confidence you would expect of a retired four-star general. He speaks with a trace of a New York accent that gives his pronouncements a rat-a-tat urgency. He is also a well-compensated member of the military-industrial complex, sitting on the board of General Dynamics and serving as a strategic adviser to Academi, the private-security contractor once known as Blackwater. And he is the chairman of an aptly named think tank, the Institute for the Study of War. Though he is one of a parade of cable-TV generals, Keane is the resident hawk on Fox News, where he appears regularly to call for the United States to use greater military force in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan. He doesnt shrink from putting boots on the ground and has little use for civilian leaders, like Obama, who do.
(snip)
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/24/magazine/how-hillary-clinton-became-a-hawk.html
shalafi
(53 posts)it must be a bloody mess by now.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)#WhichHillary wrote this tripe?
Man, the barrel is totally empty now!!
Samantha
(9,314 posts)It sounds exactly like something Joe Lieberman would write. The Liebermans and the Clintons are long-time friends.
Sam
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Jewish community, especially seeing how they support her. Sanders should have, could have done the same. Clinton did it.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)no longer an ally of Israel.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)want to see, to accuse and attack.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)She said: "Others in this race suggest we must remain neutral in order to negotiate".
Better be careful. She's pushing him. That's bound to make Bernie enraged. Basically calling him a disloyal Jew.
He's almost eliminated from the delegate math. He has very little to lose at this point. She shouldn't push him like that.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)if you have no idea why that is a nasty little attack, look up the term.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Should be your first clue.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)hey fair is fair...
but I suppose I know exactly what being disloyal to Israel is code for in the Jewish community.
By the way, that is an extremely loud antisemitic attack, not that far from a jew hoarding money in foreign banks.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)she knows exactly what she is doing. And I know exactly what those words are code for.
Either that, or she did not write it, nothing is her fault anyway, and the essay writer will soon be thrown under the bus.
She did imply him being derelict in his duties, That is being a kapo, a nasty whistle.
So try to Jewsplain this to me any way you chose to.
By the way, so you know, after 2008, I predicted this shit the moment both launched. So I am not surprised by this. one bit. She did the same to Obama. Or have you forgotten this.
"As far as I know he is not a Muslim."
northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)Your words...
But now that HRC just lectured a Jewish man what being Jewish was you are ok with that.
Here is what was said in her post, she is definitely giving a religious lecture on what the most important thing is to a Jew. You rage is very flexible.
Protecting allies and partners like Israel is one of the most solemn duties of any Commander-in-Chief. Yet others in this race suggest we must remain neutral in order to negotiate. But Israels safety is simply non-negotiable. And it would be a grave mistake for the United States to cede the mantle of leadership in the peace process to anyone else. For the security of Israel and the world, we need America to remain a respected global leader, and be ready and able to block any international effort to isolate or attack Israel.
jillan
(39,451 posts)on a Jewish holiday.
Disgusting.
shalafi
(53 posts)Look up the Family, her religion beliefs. Out of line for Clinton.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and that is not a minor antisemitic whistle... tell me, it is not so!!!!!
(As predicted)
jfern
(5,204 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Not to many American Jews or many Israelis for that matter.
shalafi
(53 posts)She's an Avigdor Lieberman clone.
(Jewish Home, I believe)
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)But the guy who used the word "neutral" was apparently Trump.
So it's a wash. As a Jew, The heavy handed pandering, the overuse of italicized shibboleths, is to me a little barf-inducing, but since she didnt actually say "Sanders" it's tough to really say she's deliberately representing and misrepresenting his position, even if many readers may come away with that impression.
virgista
(48 posts)DetroitSocialist83
(169 posts)Just like her sellout morally bankrupt "husband". The fact that the two of them can even show their faces in public is astounding.
Unicorn
(424 posts)Just saying...
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pangaia
(24,324 posts)JI7
(89,251 posts)northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)Protecting allies and partners like Israel is one of the most solemn duties of any Commander-in-Chief. Yet others in this race suggest we must remain neutral in order to negotiate. But Israels safety is simply non-negotiable. And it would be a grave mistake for the United States to cede the mantle of leadership in the peace process to anyone else. For the security of Israel and the world, we need America to remain a respected global leader, and be ready and able to block any international effort to isolate or attack Israel.
She is saying it is the most important, and that he does not believe it. And since it is a religion and a race...she is a bit of a racist as well.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Did she break out the yiddish while writing this one?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Yiddish is a dying language... unfortunately.
shalafi
(53 posts)Insulting everyone except herself and the 1%. The insult group of the moment is the Jews.
Unicorn
(424 posts)And She's more like her husband(his recent self, not his presidential one) every day.
dr60omg
(283 posts)I do not need a frigging shixsa to write an article for a right wing paper in Israel to explain what passover means. Her op-edonly serves two functions the first to try and get the ultra orthodox Jews to support her in the United States and the goyim in the US who have developed this Israeli love fest (while condemning the majority of American Jews for our progressivism) ... it is sick pandering she can stick it with her hot sauce and her love of prince in her purse
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)"Let me be sort of a neutral guy regarding the Israelis and Palestinians. - Donald Trump
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/269806-trump-ill-be-neutral-on-israel-and-palestine
I'm a Bernie Sanders supporter. There are lots of reasons to prefer him to Hillary Clinton, including his being more critical of Netanyahu.
But Clinton was attacking Trump, not Sanders, in that post.
Il_Coniglietto
(373 posts)I suppose he thinks having been on both sides of nearly every issue evens out to the middle.
Imagine Trump involved in Middle East peace talks. Talk about adding fuel to the fire.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)He didn't say he'd be neutral about Israel.
Transcript:
https://berniesanders.com/sanders-outlines-middle-east-policy/
democrank
(11,096 posts)Hawks gotta hawk