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amborin

(16,631 posts)
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:44 AM Apr 2016

In Passover Article, Hillary Clinton Implies Rival Bernie Sanders Is Betraying Jews

http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/in_passover_article_hillary_clinton_accuses_sanders_of_20160421

In Passover Article, Hillary Clinton Implies Rival Bernie Sanders Is Betraying Jews

On the website of The Times of Israel on Sunday night, Hillary Clinton published a blog post “doing what can only be described as ‘goysplaining,’ ” which is when a non-Jew condescendingly accuses “a Jew of betraying his own people for criticizing Israel,” writes Ben Norton at Salon.

In the article, titled “Fighting oppression, inequality and injustice on Passover,” Clinton told the Biblical story of Exodus and stressed that lessons should be drawn from it for today.

With hawkish right-wing rhetoric, Clinton steadfastly defended the Israeli government. She conflated the Jewish religion with the state of Israel and condemned critics of the government as anti-Semitic.

“I’ve proudly stood with the State of Israel for my entire career, making sure it always has the resources it needs to maintain its qualitative military edge,” Clinton wrote, bragging about her work to boost U.S. military funding for Israel.

“Protecting allies and partners like Israel is one of the most solemn duties of any Commander-in-Chief. Yet others in this race suggest we must remain ‘neutral’ in order to negotiate,” Clinton added, in a jab at her opponent Bernie Sanders.

Clinton implied Sanders is being derelict in his duties as a Jew and betraying his own people by criticizing Israel and its crimes.


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In Passover Article, Hillary Clinton Implies Rival Bernie Sanders Is Betraying Jews (Original Post) amborin Apr 2016 OP
HRH playing the antisemitism card was inevidable. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #1
...to the unapologetic anti-Semites who support her, you mean? (And some of whom post here...) nt villager Apr 2016 #4
There is, evidently, no low to which she will not stoop and pander. djean111 Apr 2016 #2
Wish I could find a better word than loathe for her..n/t monmouth4 Apr 2016 #3
I have the same problem. There is no word that describes my feelings towards Her. FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #12
"Clinton implied Sanders is being derelict in his duties as a Jew" ?? oberliner Apr 2016 #5
Smear monger. . B Calm Apr 2016 #6
Author appears unaware of difference between 'imply' and 'infer.' LanternWaste Apr 2016 #7
I wouldn't be surprised if Sheldon Adelson ends up supporting Clinton icecreamfan Apr 2016 #8
"I've often thought of becoming a golf club" jmg257 Apr 2016 #9
"I'm the X candidate" (X may vary) MisterP Apr 2016 #10
That's a crazy interpretation of Hillary's blog post. It's way out there. nt BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #11
it's fact. shalafi Apr 2016 #39
Her AIPAC masters will be pleased. Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #13
And it is a big swing and a huge miss Samantha Apr 2016 #14
She and her generals make me ill pangaia Apr 2016 #35
I cannot stand to look at her or hear her voice Samantha Apr 2016 #46
Jack Keane Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #48
The Clinton campaign keeps shooting itself in their foot. shalafi Apr 2016 #40
She actually wrote this shit!?! Major Hogwash Apr 2016 #15
You know who that sounds a lot like (and this is total gut speaking, no facts) Samantha Apr 2016 #47
Totally bogus and made up outrage. There is nothing wrong with Clinton reaching out to the seabeyond Apr 2016 #16
She's distorting Bernie's record, claiming or implying he wants to be "neutral", as in Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #18
No she is not. She is reaching out to the Jewish community. You and others are adding what you seabeyond Apr 2016 #19
No she is literally lying about his positions. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #23
Let me translate this to you, what she accused him of being is a KAPO nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #22
No she didn't and the fact you had to translate what she actually said to make your attack seabeyond Apr 2016 #24
So now you are jewsplaining this to me? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #25
No. I am stating you made shit up to attack Clinton. seabeyond Apr 2016 #26
She accused him of not being loyal nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #27
So you show outrage in your many posts that are hidden for being vulgar at best... northernsouthern Apr 2016 #44
It's a religious holiday. Nothing like verbally attacking a Jewish man jillan Apr 2016 #28
This Jew does not support Clinton. shalafi Apr 2016 #41
She better be careful. She's fighting dirty. Distorting his record. He'll hit back Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #17
Really, she went down that road nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #20
She is Likud jfern Apr 2016 #21
Yeah, thats the other thing. "Pro-likud" and "pro-Israel" are not synonymous Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #30
She's worse than Likud shalafi Apr 2016 #42
A clever article, because she certainly seems to be calling Sanders out Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #29
A slithering shiksa. virgista Apr 2016 #31
She's a disgusting war mongering pig DetroitSocialist83 Apr 2016 #32
You probably want to delete that. Unicorn Apr 2016 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author DetroitSocialist83 Apr 2016 #33
The woman is insufferable. pangaia Apr 2016 #34
how is this different from how she talked about Israel even before Sanders was running ? JI7 Apr 2016 #36
Be cause she directly called him out... northernsouthern Apr 2016 #45
She's a venomous chameleon. Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #37
Times of Israel, Hebrew nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #43
Nice to see that Clinton is continuing her insult tour shalafi Apr 2016 #38
She keeps reminding me of Trumps' tactics - wild accusations. Unicorn Apr 2016 #52
I don't need goys telling me how to be Jewish that is to me a new form of antisemitism dr60omg Apr 2016 #49
She was referring to Donald Trump. Trump said 'neutral.' Sanders didn't. Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #50
Trump says he'd be neutral? Il_Coniglietto Apr 2016 #55
You must have missed his AIPAC speech. grossproffit Apr 2016 #56
Bernie Sanders criticized Israel's bombing of Gaza. Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #57
"Bibi" must be beaming with pride. democrank Apr 2016 #53
Never, ever, Her. F'ing NEVER FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #54

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
12. I have the same problem. There is no word that describes my feelings towards Her.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:19 PM
Apr 2016

Detest and loathe come close, but not close enough.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
5. "Clinton implied Sanders is being derelict in his duties as a Jew" ??
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:03 PM
Apr 2016

No, she didn't.

The writer of the article in the OP is reading things that are not there.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
7. Author appears unaware of difference between 'imply' and 'infer.'
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:10 PM
Apr 2016

"Clinton implied Sanders is being derelict..."

Seems as though the author of this opinion piece is unaware of the relevant difference between inference and implication... or simply (in his words) "conflates" the two.

 

shalafi

(53 posts)
39. it's fact.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:16 AM
Apr 2016

not interpretation, Third Way Clinton supporter. Your presence serves no-one and insults Democrats.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
14. And it is a big swing and a huge miss
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:42 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie Sanders is a secular Jew. He is proud of his heritage but describes himself as "not particularly religious."

http://www.worldreligionnews.com/religion-news/judaism/bernie-sanders-religion-and-religious-beliefs

Sanders considers himself a secular Jew but only in heritage or tradition and not necessarily religious. In a media interview last year, he cites “I’m proud to be Jewish” but eventually added that “I’m not particularly religious.” Sanders was a descendant of a Polish Jewish family who migrated to the U.S. during the great depression and Holocaust period. He was born in Brooklyn, New York in 1941 and since childhood he was raised in Jewish tradition and has also attended Hebrew school.


In Feelthebern.org which serves as an informative campaign website for the presidential nominee, Bernie Sanders is said to be a firm believer of the constitutional provision of church and state separation, religious freedom as well as non-faith expression, and of social and economic justice.

* * *

The senator is also a firm believer of religious freedom, the non-discriminatory right to express faith or non-faith. For him religious freedom is “the right to be protected if choosing to practice and express faith in a lawful manner.” He also believes that having such freedom does not entitle an individual to impose his/her belief on others. The website also cited examples wherein employers shouldn’t be allowed to impose their religious beliefs or rules to their employees.

Read more at World Religion News: "Bernie Sanders’ Religion and Religious Beliefs" http://wp.me/p45VCq-5Sj


The Clinton campaign said it was taking off the gloves, but it does not do well with landing blows. But shame on them anyway for venturing into this terrain.

Sam

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
46. I cannot stand to look at her or hear her voice
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:56 AM
Apr 2016

She is just so corrupt, and the unbelievable thing about it is that she doesn't even tried to hide it. Looking at the people she pays to work on her campaign and hearing the things they say, including accusing Sanders of being racist and sexist, is beyond the pale. I don't think the whispers even of all of the "irregularities" in so many state primaries and/or caucuses bother either her or Bill.

So then when one turns his or her attention to the FBI investigation and starts reading all of the details, and listening to the speculations on whether or not she will be indicted, one starts to ask in what world do I live in now where the possible next President of the United States has obviously committed serious security breaches and is also being looked at for pay-to-play public corruption, how is it possible that consideration is still being given to her as the leader of the so-called free world? Just how can this be? I don't understand why she has not been asked to withdraw regardless of whether or not she is indicted when her own words in her own communications prove she is not fit to be entrusted with the security of this nation and its relationship with other countries.

Sam

Uncle Joe

(58,365 posts)
48. Jack Keane
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:22 AM
Apr 2016





(snip)


Jack Keane is one of the intellectual architects of the Iraq surge; he is also perhaps the greatest single influence on the way Hillary Clinton thinks about military issues. A bear of a man with a jowly, careworn face and Brylcreem-slicked hair, Keane exudes the supreme self-confidence you would expect of a retired four-star general. He speaks with a trace of a New York accent that gives his pronouncements a rat-a-tat urgency. He is also a well-compensated member of the military-industrial complex, sitting on the board of General Dynamics and serving as a strategic adviser to Academi, the private-security contractor once known as Blackwater. And he is the chairman of an aptly named think tank, the Institute for the Study of War. Though he is one of a parade of cable-TV generals, Keane is the resident hawk on Fox News, where he appears regularly to call for the United States to use greater military force in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan. He doesn’t shrink from putting boots on the ground and has little use for civilian leaders, like Obama, who do.

(snip)


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/24/magazine/how-hillary-clinton-became-a-hawk.html

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
47. You know who that sounds a lot like (and this is total gut speaking, no facts)
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:59 AM
Apr 2016

It sounds exactly like something Joe Lieberman would write. The Liebermans and the Clintons are long-time friends.

Sam

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
16. Totally bogus and made up outrage. There is nothing wrong with Clinton reaching out to the
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:25 PM
Apr 2016

Jewish community, especially seeing how they support her. Sanders should have, could have done the same. Clinton did it.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
18. She's distorting Bernie's record, claiming or implying he wants to be "neutral", as in
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:31 PM
Apr 2016

no longer an ally of Israel.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
19. No she is not. She is reaching out to the Jewish community. You and others are adding what you
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:31 PM
Apr 2016

want to see, to accuse and attack.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
23. No she is literally lying about his positions.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:37 PM
Apr 2016

She said: "Others in this race suggest we must remain ‘neutral’ in order to negotiate".

Better be careful. She's pushing him. That's bound to make Bernie enraged. Basically calling him a disloyal Jew.

He's almost eliminated from the delegate math. He has very little to lose at this point. She shouldn't push him like that.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
22. Let me translate this to you, what she accused him of being is a KAPO
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:34 PM
Apr 2016

if you have no idea why that is a nasty little attack, look up the term.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
24. No she didn't and the fact you had to translate what she actually said to make your attack
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:39 PM
Apr 2016

Should be your first clue.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
25. So now you are jewsplaining this to me?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:42 PM
Apr 2016

hey fair is fair...

but I suppose I know exactly what being disloyal to Israel is code for in the Jewish community.

By the way, that is an extremely loud antisemitic attack, not that far from a jew hoarding money in foreign banks.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
27. She accused him of not being loyal
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:46 PM
Apr 2016

she knows exactly what she is doing. And I know exactly what those words are code for.

Either that, or she did not write it, nothing is her fault anyway, and the essay writer will soon be thrown under the bus.

“Protecting allies and partners like Israel is one of the most solemn duties of any Commander-in-Chief. Yet others in this race suggest we must remain ‘neutral’ in order to negotiate,” Clinton added, in a jab at her opponent Bernie Sanders.


She did imply him being derelict in his duties, That is being a kapo, a nasty whistle.

So try to Jewsplain this to me any way you chose to.

By the way, so you know, after 2008, I predicted this shit the moment both launched. So I am not surprised by this. one bit. She did the same to Obama. Or have you forgotten this.

"As far as I know he is not a Muslim."
 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
44. So you show outrage in your many posts that are hidden for being vulgar at best...
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:33 AM
Apr 2016

Your words...

This is all of what Sanders campaign is about. Women, gays, blacks, Latinos... Shut the **** up


But now that HRC just lectured a Jewish man what being Jewish was you are ok with that.

Here is what was said in her post, she is definitely giving a religious lecture on what the most important thing is to a Jew. You rage is very flexible.

The third and most important lesson of the Book of Exodus comes at the end. So that they would never again be subjugated, the Jewish people arrive to their own homeland. I’ve proudly stood with the State of Israel for my entire career, making sure it always has the resources it needs to maintain its qualitative military edge. I also worked to ensure funding for the Iron Dome missile defense system and saw its effectiveness first-hand when I worked with Prime Minister Netanyahu to negotiate a cease-fire in Gaza. Since its installation, this technology has saved countless lives.

Protecting allies and partners like Israel is one of the most solemn duties of any Commander-in-Chief. Yet others in this race suggest we must remain “neutral” in order to negotiate. But Israel’s safety is simply non-negotiable. And it would be a grave mistake for the United States to cede the mantle of leadership in the peace process to anyone else. For the security of Israel and the world, we need America to remain a respected global leader, and be ready and able to block any international effort to isolate or attack Israel.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
28. It's a religious holiday. Nothing like verbally attacking a Jewish man
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:49 PM
Apr 2016

on a Jewish holiday.

Disgusting.

 

shalafi

(53 posts)
41. This Jew does not support Clinton.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:18 AM
Apr 2016

Look up the Family, her religion beliefs. Out of line for Clinton.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
20. Really, she went down that road
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:33 PM
Apr 2016

and that is not a minor antisemitic whistle... tell me, it is not so!!!!!

(As predicted)

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
30. Yeah, thats the other thing. "Pro-likud" and "pro-Israel" are not synonymous
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:54 PM
Apr 2016

Not to many American Jews or many Israelis for that matter.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
29. A clever article, because she certainly seems to be calling Sanders out
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:53 PM
Apr 2016

But the guy who used the word "neutral" was apparently Trump.

So it's a wash. As a Jew, The heavy handed pandering, the overuse of italicized shibboleths, is to me a little barf-inducing, but since she didnt actually say "Sanders" it's tough to really say she's deliberately representing and misrepresenting his position, even if many readers may come away with that impression.

 

DetroitSocialist83

(169 posts)
32. She's a disgusting war mongering pig
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:02 AM
Apr 2016

Just like her sellout morally bankrupt "husband". The fact that the two of them can even show their faces in public is astounding.

Response to amborin (Original post)

 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
45. Be cause she directly called him out...
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:37 AM
Apr 2016
The third and most important lesson of the Book of Exodus comes at the end. So that they would never again be subjugated, the Jewish people arrive to their own homeland. I’ve proudly stood with the State of Israel for my entire career, making sure it always has the resources it needs to maintain its qualitative military edge. I also worked to ensure funding for the Iron Dome missile defense system and saw its effectiveness first-hand when I worked with Prime Minister Netanyahu to negotiate a cease-fire in Gaza. Since its installation, this technology has saved countless lives.

Protecting allies and partners like Israel is one of the most solemn duties of any Commander-in-Chief. Yet others in this race suggest we must remain “neutral” in order to negotiate. But Israel’s safety is simply non-negotiable. And it would be a grave mistake for the United States to cede the mantle of leadership in the peace process to anyone else. For the security of Israel and the world, we need America to remain a respected global leader, and be ready and able to block any international effort to isolate or attack Israel.


She is saying it is the most important, and that he does not believe it. And since it is a religion and a race...she is a bit of a racist as well.
 

shalafi

(53 posts)
38. Nice to see that Clinton is continuing her insult tour
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:14 AM
Apr 2016

Insulting everyone except herself and the 1%. The insult group of the moment is the Jews.


 

Unicorn

(424 posts)
52. She keeps reminding me of Trumps' tactics - wild accusations.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:02 AM
Apr 2016

And She's more like her husband(his recent self, not his presidential one) every day.

dr60omg

(283 posts)
49. I don't need goys telling me how to be Jewish that is to me a new form of antisemitism
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:22 AM
Apr 2016

I do not need a frigging shixsa to write an article for a right wing paper in Israel to explain what passover means. Her op-edonly serves two functions the first to try and get the ultra orthodox Jews to support her in the United States and the goyim in the US who have developed this Israeli love fest (while condemning the majority of American Jews for our progressivism) ... it is sick pandering she can stick it with her hot sauce and her love of prince in her purse

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
50. She was referring to Donald Trump. Trump said 'neutral.' Sanders didn't.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:50 AM
Apr 2016

"Let me be sort of a neutral guy” regarding the Israelis and Palestinians. - Donald Trump

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/269806-trump-ill-be-neutral-on-israel-and-palestine

I'm a Bernie Sanders supporter. There are lots of reasons to prefer him to Hillary Clinton, including his being more critical of Netanyahu.

But Clinton was attacking Trump, not Sanders, in that post.

Il_Coniglietto

(373 posts)
55. Trump says he'd be neutral?
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 08:07 AM
Apr 2016

I suppose he thinks having been on both sides of nearly every issue evens out to the middle.

Imagine Trump involved in Middle East peace talks. Talk about adding fuel to the fire.

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