2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSix Ways Hillary Clinton’s Email Could Have Been Hacked
This article is about 6 months old but I didn't find it posted here previously. It also seems valid since a lot of people seem to think that there is no possibility the server was hacked. The article is here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-gregg/six-ways-hillary-clintons_b_8071822.html It's a fairly good article. Not the typical cookie cutter article about how she received spam on the Nigerian 411 scammers and such.
These are my own personal thoughts regarding the potential hacks being visible in the security logs. In my assessment, only half would show up in the logs.
Remote Code Execution: Probably shows up but if it's a zero day hack doubtful someone knows what to look for and it probably gets covered up. In fact I'd wager if it's a foreign govt this is going to be invisible in the logs.
Password Attacks: Shows up but if they get admin access, then it can be covered up. If it's only Hillary's acct, you'd likely notice the issue.
Man-in-the-Middle: Not going to show up on her system.
Heartbleed: Not going to show up in the logs. If applicable, would have allowed a knowledgeable party to read her emails till Oct 2010.
Sniffing Email Traffic: Not going to show up in the logs. In my estimation, almost certain this occurred because she traveled early on and had no encryption. Governments would have been all over this and sniffed all her traffic while she traveled. I would have guessed they then went and sniffed her traffic even after she left the country.
Backdooring the IT Provider: Not gonna show up in the logs. Makes me feel sorry for the employees at the firms she used. I bet they have feds going through all their bank records/lives with a fine toothed comb.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Again ... Thanks in advance for providing links to the "evidence."
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)And no, I won't waste my time and give you a crash course in hacking 101.
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JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Its called evidence ... find some.
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JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)... declaring their superior knowledge on some topic.
I work in emerging technology. I have for years. So I know a few things about computers.
Here's an interesting thing for you to consider.
Official government servers have been hacked in recent years, and we have EVIDENCE that it occurred.
Meanwhile, you want to declare Hillary's server "was" hacked ... even though you have no evidence to prove that actually happened.
See the problem you have?
Probably not.
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JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Not a big surprise there.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)was far less secure than my PC (Google is your friend) and yet I get dozens of alerts each month of random hackers trying to attack my machine. And I'm not a tempting target like a celebrity or the U.S SoS. Thank you for proving my point.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)You guys are making a weak case, and then demanding WE go look for the evidence that supports your claims.
No.
If you have an accusation to make, its on you to provide the evidence.
If you have EVIDENCE .... post it.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Why Clintons Private Email Server Was Such a Security Fail
http://www.wired.com/2015/03/clintons-email-server-vulnerable/
It's common knowledge. Now please don't ask me for a link that proves that the sky is blue.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)To be fair, the State Departments track record for its own email security isnt exactly spotless, even relative to Clintons DIY approach.
Now please go find a link that shows actual EVIDENCE ... which as the excerpt above indicates quite clearly you do not have.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)FBI Headquarters
935 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20535-0001
(202) 324-3000
But since she's still being investigated I doubt that they'll tell you much.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)the fact that she put her communications at risk of being hijacked without a trace is gross negligence
moriah
(8,311 posts).... for not setting up her private server, etc? Aka, used undue influence to get special treatment to disobey tech security rules in 2008?
I was in IT, and have had the unpleasant task of telling higher ups that they wanted me to set up their server against the rules. The one time I got pushback, my supervisor backed me up. If I hadn't said the rules, it would have been my job on the line, because I was the one who was supposed to be both tech savvy and enforce security rules.
That's far more my concern about this email server when it comes to her executive leadership. Not whether existing tech problems (because the Bush administration was also using private emails for the Secretary of State when not in their ClassNet) led people to give into a person's request without doing their own job of knowing network security and enforcing it even on your boss, when that's your job.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)So now you meander off on some new topic about an alleged "threat" to some one's job to set up the server.
Again ... prove her server was hacked. That's what you are trying to claim with this sill OP.
You can't back it up ... that's become clear.
moriah
(8,311 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)To some other non-point.
My bad.
moriah
(8,311 posts)Because I was responding not to you, but to the person who said your request for proof was a nonsensical question.
Dial back on the coffee hon.
And edit: Just in case I did hit the wrong button, which I fully admit was possible, I would have hoped reading my post would have demonstrated that the response was to BeanMusical's snark about a question that made sense, not your request for proof of the alleged hacking. But ifvI did it the wrong button, and I didn't make myself clear,cI hope this does.
salinsky
(1,065 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)Straw Man
(6,625 posts)All that's necessary is to follow the protocols: the ones established by network security experts.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)That seems like the appropriate intelligent thing to have done.
That seems like the appropriate intelligent thing to have done.
Doesn't the State Department have its own IT people?
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Even if she was conducting State Department business on it?
The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)radio program.
moriah
(8,311 posts)Blanks
(4,835 posts)Because her email was hacked.
While we are being silly.
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apcalc
(4,465 posts)tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)Vinca
(50,278 posts)They extradited "Guccifer" from Europe. He hacked into an account that led to the Hillary email scandal. He claims to have things stored in the cloud to bargain for a reduced sentence. Only time will tell.
840high
(17,196 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)WASHINGTON A former aide to Hillary Clinton has turned over to the F.B.I. computer security logs from Mrs. Clintons private server, records that showed no evidence of foreign hacking, according to people close to a federal investigation into Mrs. Clintons emails.
Mr. Pagliano told the agents that nothing in his security logs suggested that any intrusion occurred. Security logs keep track of, among other things, who accessed the network and when. They are not definitive, and forensic experts can sometimes spot sophisticated hacking that is not apparent in the logs, but computer security experts view logs as key documents when detecting hackers.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/04/us/politics/security-logs-of-hillary-clintons-email-server-are-said-to-show-no-evidence-of-hacking.html?_r=0