I don't know if anyone "says" this anymore. Back in the stone age of computers it meant "big grin."

k & r

because he still has not been vetted---I thought you knew that...

"No one over 30 trusts him"

Enough with the bogus generalizations

and while we're at it, let's stop knocking the youth of our country for having the guts to try to change the country for the better.

without massive disruptions.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511224269

She is not interested in trying to restore the concept of free public college -- which we have had in the past.

Also, Bernie is doing what all politicians do -- setting a goal and proposing a road-map...knowing that it will subject to the process of legislation. But setting the goal. I prefer that to no goal.

If compromise and incrementalism become necessary along the way so be it.

But not starting at compromise and small steps without a larger framework

Then he would sound like Hillary.

Status quo is killing us, but great for the 1%.

It is actually the greatest, most accessible system in the world. Taken in total it provides many, many pathways to higher education. Our university system is VASTLY superior to anything in Europe or Asia or South America or Africa or Australia. It is much less rigid and restrictive. Sure it can be improved. Costs need to be controlled. But what we don't need is to try to remake this remarkable system in the image of Europe's rather less open and accessible system.

We should have kept things like slavery and ended the suffrage movement because they were just too damn disruptive.

Give me a fucking break

But it's very doable.

Now more from the AmeriCANS.

Who is paying for that?

Cynicism and secrecy are far preferred.

it is true. Sanders have all these rallies on college campuses for a reason.

NYC Parks are not a universities, are they? Isn't there anything based in reality that you can use against "BS?"

He gains a higher majority in under 45 year olds including women for example, yet he still does well with those over 45 just not quite as well as Clinton.

He can win with both. She can not.

And yes, all of those arenas in Phoenix, parks in NYC, and convention centers in LA were all college campuses.

Did you really think no one will catch you or call you out on such bald faced lies? Well Clinton does so I suppose her supporters must as well.

than this.

Your statement address none of your lies or us calling you out on them.

Playing games like this is so childish.

Calling me out ? Lies? Just because you disagree?

Yes, we are calling you out on blatant lies.

It is not a simple disagreement which is so post-Millennial. It is about facts. You state he only does rallies at colleges. He has done more elsewhere with larger crowds.

The list could go on.

And yes, you are lying and yes, I am calling your sorry ass out on it.

per the campaign, was not at San Diego State?

Holy SHSSSIIIITTT and all this time I thought I covered that at Montezuma Mesa! (I kid of course)

Some of these people are right now quite well... comedic.

I have no idea why anybody even replies.

Imust be too young to understand numbers

will be 71 in July.

I like Bernie.

If you say it can't be done, you never have to to try.

As far as I am concerned Bernie is the only real candidate running. He is only candidate working for the people and not the 1%. The first one in a long, long time. And he is honest too. Can't say that about Hillary. At least not truthfully.

That's why I can't support somebody whose positions are mostly to the right of the republicans I despised as a youth.

I am 74.

This is how I see our presidents.

I think FDR won fewer votes in his last election than previous elections and the country was becoming more right. Truman came close to losing to Dewey. Then Ike came along and was middle of the road. JFK moved left on social issues after he was elected. Johnson fulfilled Dems' dreams of Medicare and was left on social issues, but wrong on Vietnam. Nixon was Nixon. Carter was middle of the road. Reagan took us right. Bush and the Republicans took us further right. Clinton was middle of the road but reviled by the right just as Obama is. W was a disaster all the way around; he was the evangelicals dream candidate and better than Cruz would be. Obama has been an excellent president, but only slightly left.

I am extremely disappointed and frightened that it has moved so far right.

Saying all people do or think X, is a really high bar to meet.

but thanz

"Don't trust anybody under 30 (who's looking for pie-in-the-sky promises)..."

And it's been a long time since I saw 30. What a stupid, uninformed thing to say. All my old (retired) friends support Bernie.

Most people/voters over 30 do not trust Bernie Sanders. How's that?

If you are unfamiliar with the meaning of ipse dixit, here it is:

Here in PA support Bernie.
Zero . Zip . Nada.

over 30 may have had to endure more politic rhetoric over a lifetime and are maybe less likely to believe campaign promises
of free college, universal health care, expanded social security and what not.
I'd love to believe that stuff too and I'm glad that Bernie has the audacity to promote good things.

first or the last to suggest new things. He has yet to articulate how he would implement all of those things.

It's protest of the status quo on a pretty grand and vocal scale, not seen from the left since FDR probably.

It would be fantastic if anything good can come of it.

Sometimes I wish Hillary was more of visionary and idealist, but I will take practical mechanics any day over not getting anything done. And for the record I believe Hillary is a visionary, but she understands if anything is going to change for the better, she has to get things done and she is being pragmatic about it.

and a leader. Hillary is a bureaucrat and a follower.

and so is Hillary and she is realistic and not making promises she can not keep.

him this entire campaign. She is no leader. Because she has no vision she doesn't understand that things can be done in a way different from the way she would do things. She has spent her life trading away this and that and working the system that she never stopped to think that the system was broken and needed to be overhauled. When you rise to the top of the system you have a vested interest in keeping that system in place. That's what she will do. She is no leader.

response. Got it.

... taxes on the middle class for anything must stop spending our money on Aircraft Carriers which Sanders WONT DO

I'm 44. This is a shallow, vapid argument.

They've always been in sort of clueless denial about the existence of us Gen Xers- if they think about us at all they still figure we're slacking off working at a starbuck, wearing nose rings and listening to "that Nirvana"

Millennials require a deeper, more willful denial, because the fact that they exist in bigger numbers than even the boomers poses an existential threat to these boomers' cherished sense of both their central place in the scheme of the universe AND their delusion of eternal youthful relevance.

his supporters act as if he is the only that want to do something bold about healthcare, student debt, etc.

College was so low cost, it was almost free at one time in this country.

He is not against the wealthy.

He is against the wealthy that do not think they should pay taxes.

The question of transcripts came up before the question of tax returns.

He will release what ever is asked pertaining to his taxes.

The Clinton's and the Clinton Foundation tentacles of power encompass

the entire globe.

Bernie is running against the establishment.

The Clinton's and the Clinton Foundation are the architects and power

brokers of the establishment.

Bernie is raising money for down ticket candidates running on his platform.

I am not naive.

There is absolutely nothing radical in Bernie's policies.

over 25 years in Congress. Come on!!!

This election season has been a prime one for condescending oldsplaining.

I'm 44 and I trust him and HRC. I think some here doth complain too much. It's freaking embarrassing.

The conservative mind seem stranger and stranger to me.

45, and no better off for it.

Yup, 2012 - ranked #17.

Is that he would raise taxes on the middle class. He has no plan to win back Congress. No plan to win back the state houses. The last democrat to run in the general election on raising taxes on the middle class was Walter Mondale. He won one state. His home state of Minnesota.

How so? And where did you get those numbers?

By the way, why do you use a decades-old photo of your candidate as an avatar? You don't have anything against older women, do you?

So much for that theory, eh?

I'm in my 40's and all of the Bernie supporters I know are out of their 20's.

Not knowing how Bernie would pay for free college tuition shows you spent zero time looking it up as it's been stated since the beginning. And, Hillary said she would release the transcript when Bernie released his. He released them - he stated he has none. Where are hers?

As far as taxes, how disingenuous - if you cared about taxes you'd be demanding Hillary to release all information of her holdings in the Caymans - which you can google about and she is cheating taxes by having. You can also ask her about her 5 shell companies in Deleware. Look up the term "Shell Company." But, that would assume you actually gave a damn about taxes. You wouldn't be supporting Hillary Clinton if you cared about tax evasion.


So you made this crap up and it's how you wish it were. This does nothing for your credibility and you aren't helping Hillary by making crap up.

Welcome to ignore.

Hillary has money in the Cayman Islands-prove it.

google.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/4/4/1199332/-Clinton-s-ties-to-Offshore-Tax-Havens

one of many sites you can go to about this.

adding more:
http://nypost.com/2016/01/18/hillary-clintons-caymans-tax-dodge-hypocrisy/

http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/12/hillary-targets-cayman-tax-schemes-that-have-made-her-family-millions/
Note: the above link brings up Bills partnership in the company Yucaipa Global Partnership, which is registered in the Cayman Islands
And from the link: Clinton financial records show, Bill Clinton was also paid $225,000 to speak at a March 28, 2011 “event that will target the business community in Grand Cayman.”
And from the link: Marc Mezvinsky, the Clintons’ former Goldman Sachs banker son-in-law, is a partner at Eaglevale Partners, a hedge fund with entities incorporated in the Cayman Islands.

And an incestuous tie in the Panama tax haven that sheds more light on the Podesta group and Blumenthal as well as Libya
http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/05/hillary-clinton-ties-emerge-in-panama-papers/
"Blumenthal frequently emailed Clinton with items ranging from political gossip to in-depth intelligence briefings gleaned from his deep reservoir of intelligence community sources. He lobbied heavily on behalf of a company called Osprey Global Solutions, which sought contracts in post-Gaddafi Libya."

Wow, this ones a treasure trove of corrupt foreign policy connections to Hillarys lobbyist John Podesta and the Panama Tax haven.
A billionaire and a Russia-controlled bank named in the Panama Papers have links to Hillary Clinton through two separate lobbying efforts — one through a Clinton-connected lobbying firm and another through Sidney Blumenthal.

Clinton is linked to Sberbank, Russia’s largest bank, through Podesta Group, a lobbying firm co-founded by Clinton’s campaign chairman John Podesta and his brother, Tony Podesta, a major Clinton bundler.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/05/hillary-clinton-ties-emerge-in-panama-papers/#ixzz46aTce0Jz

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You really need to start googling Clinton.

I fully expect she put me on ignore.

Hi back!

Been reading into the big picture of these things... it is not pretty. I was going to ask about the Caymans, and I vaguely remember Yucailpa somewhere else not just the RW DC... all these are starting to emerge in other places.

So there are a lot of people over 30 who trust him.

He also wins with higher income people... so that kinda blows your whole theory apart, doesn't it?

What is your source for the "wins higher income people" quote? Make it a reputable source. i know lots of Democrats that are doing quite well financially and all support Hillary.

And that has been the whining cry from the Clinton campaign that he only attracts rich liberals.

Look at the NY results. Clinton did her best among people making under 30K. Sanders did his best among people making over 100K