2 of them are from last year. 2 others are opinion pieces. And one is at least frank about being an opinion piece and doesn't necessarily make the case you might expect.

In other words, nothing you produced clears HRC beyond a reasonable doubt based on information in the public domain.

The best thing to do is wait until The FBI and Justice have completed their investigation. Then we will know , one way or the other.

2 of them are from last year. 2 others are opinion pieces. And one is at least frank about being an opinion piece and doesn't necessarily make the case you might expect.

In other words, nothing you produced clears HRC beyond a reasonable doubt based on information in the public domain.

The best thing to do is wait until The FBI and Justice have completed their investigation. Then we will know , one way or the other.

from any point of view, and can/will switch sides at the drop of a paycheck.

Plus, NONE OF US KNOW what the FBI is actually investigating, so any "analysis" is simply "paid speculation" by a certain class.

I prefer journalists who "present data" and let the reader draw a reasonable conclusion. (That is why I *specifically* called the FOX folks out for using the word "criminal" when the Attorney General didn't say that - she said "investigation" but they translated it to "criminal investigation".)

I believe the Inspector General, not Hillary.

... the mental makeup of Hillary supported will completely melt down and they will disolve into puddles of goo. Or they'll just say they always knew something was wrong and this confirms their belief.

You're playing the persecution card, which is kind of the default for Hillary and her supporters when confronted with anything that interferes with your pocket universe where Hillary is awesome. Probably your best option is to call me a BernieBro (tm) and go about your happy life.

However I do have the power of divination.

However, you mentioned that I was making a broad brush attack, which is part of the whole persecution complex of Hillary supporters. So is calling everything against her sexist, which is why I asked. The persecution complex of Hillary supporters would make a Christian blush. I realize that you probably don't actually feel persecuted and just use it as a way to shut down conversation that isn't positive to Hillary.

I had a reason for what I said and tried to make that clear. What you said was that you had the feeling I would break down at a parking ticket, and if you had that feeling, there should be a reason why you had it. Unless, of course, it was the equivalent of, "I know you are but what am I?" If that's the case - and you seem to indicate so above with the comment that you were "returning the favor" - then this is a case of "I know you are but what am I". In other words, it did, indeed, come from your backside.

The only reason you had to suggest that Clinton supporters are fragile flowers who will dissolve into goo at the first sight of adversity:

Just sayin.

... first sign of adversity." What I did say is that you have build an entire reality around Hillary being the end-all, wonderful candidate who could never possibly have anything wrong with her, and that if the FBI investivgation did find otherwise, it would be a blow to your manufactured reality. Given how hard and visciously you all respond to people bringing up negative things about Hillary - questioning her wonderfulness and infallability - there is objective evidence to support this statement.

Your response saying that you thought I would dissolve at something like a parking ticket was the equivalent of, "I know you are but what am I," and in fact you even said so, as I pointed out above. When someone has to resort to that kind of "retort," it's another strong indication that their "reality" is fabricated - it not be defended with arguments that contain logic.

Watching people have to face the dissolution of their "reality" in, in general, unpleasant.

The difference is Hillary supporters realize she is all too human and Sanders supporters think he is a deity.

Sanders supporters believe it's way past time for government to work for the people, not just the rich and the corporations. We know getting stuff passed will be hard, but the conversation has to change direction before anything can be done. Hillary is not about changing the direction at all but rather perpetuating the damage being done.

Your claim that you just see her as human is an excuse for things she has done that are bad. But it's not that she made a mistake, it's that she knew what she was doing when she did it and will continue to do things that are damaging. And you will find more reasons not to blame her.

is a sign of my mental instability? That's quite a stretch. It's the equivalent of, "Are you gonna cry?"

It's pretty clear that you're using this to avoid the points I made about how you use the idea of "she's just human" to excuse all of Hillary's bad decisions. That's kind of normal for Hillary supporters - if you can't argue on the merits, deflect. I guess I headed off the claims of sexism and persecution early on.

You've been so far from reality for so long, you shouldn't be talking about other people losing it. If you do, someone might give you a parking ticket.

Repeat to yourself "it's just a message board."

I started out saying you (Hillary supporters) were creating your own reality where Hillary would wonderful and everybody would love her. Now, you're creating this reality where I'm about to crack (I am, but not because of you). There seems to be a consistent theme here.

Thing is, the rest of the country doesn't share your adulation of Hillary. There is so much wrong with her - she is so flawed - that the attack ads write themselves. That warp-bubble you're in will eventually come in contact with the greater universe. But I think I see the way out for you: to blame all us BernieBros for coming up with the material that the Republicans will use against her, and you'll be able to keep on avoiding reality.

I wanted to check in and see if you calmed down yet.

how someone had to bring civility to DU. Must have been a site malfunction that let two people get the same user names.

You're really showing yourself to be quite an ass. And also proving yourself wrong about Hillary supporters vs. Bernie supporters.

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DU Hillary fans do not disappoint.

Its a hoot
Every response will get more and more persecuted.
I had him dancing for 3 days once

My attacks are mean and I'm a bit of an ass, but I defend the reasoning as to WHY I'm an ass. Seriously, if this FBI thing with Hillary comes down, it's going to be really hard on the people who follow her. It shows that support for Hillary is more of a belief than anything that has been reasoned through. "Believing in" things, whether it's a political candidate or a deity blinds one to problems or facts that contradict their belief.

I have not seen anything close to what you stated at all. Quite the opposite.

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I try to argue with reason and logic - I might say mean things, like someone is mentally unstable (I know a lot about that ). but I (try to) defend it logically, rather than just fling poo indiscriminately.

in The Holy Grail:

"HELP! HELP! IM BEING REPRESSED!"

Lol

Whiny bunch, aren't they?

No kidding. You have my sincere admiration.

Sometimes I'm incredibly stupid, but other times I see things that most people miss.

They'll just deny there's anything to it. They'll say the indictment is just another right-wing conspiracy, that they're making a mountain out of a molehill to sabotage the first female President, they'll map out bizarre connections between various FBI officials and the GOP, and then they'll point the finger at everyone who doesn't buy it, and say we're to blame.

It reads like something at Free Republic. That is the simple truth. Fact is, I will be hidden while your spreading of "we report, you decide" propaganda will stand.

Fox news and Judicial Watch are go-to sources for some here. Pretty sad what has happened here since Paul dropped out.

Agree. The fact you are trying to explain why Judicial Watch and Fox News are solid sources to a DEMOCRAT is unbelievably SAD.

I share you sadness...Because your interlocutor's candidate is losing her sadness has turned to madness.

... where am I again? Is this Flee Republic?

Hiding records from FOIA is ILLEGAL.

Transparency laws apply to everyone. Democratic politicians are required to be transparant as Republicans. RW groups are as entitled to FOIA requests as Democrats.

2 of them are from last year. 2 others are opinion pieces. And one is at least frank about being an opinion piece and doesn't necessarily make the case you might expect.

In other words, nothing you produced clears HRC beyond a reasonable doubt based on information in the public domain.

The best thing to do is wait until The FBI and Justice have completed their investigation. Then we will know , one way or the other.

You can go and rely on the legal analysis of a random internet poster and I will rely on the analyses of accomplished lawyers and former prosecutors and we will see who is right.



Indictment wish in one hand, shit in the other. See which one gets filled first.

An opinion formed from an incomplete picture.

It's like attempting to describe the form and function of a cell when you have never seen it through a microscope.

It's very possible to get the broad strokes and generalities right but miss all the details that matter completely.

I have been very fair from the beginning on this. I think what she did shows stunningly poor judgment, at least one of your own links says as much. Is it illegal? That isn't for me to decide. As I have said many times, I will wait for the determination of the FBI and Justice and will live with their determination, one way or the other as far as it being criminal or not.

What part of I choose to accept the expert opinion of several accomplished lawyers and former prosecutors and not the opinion of a random internet poster don't you understand ?


An indictment of Hillary Clinton is a chimera.


I like that last sentence.

I'll wait for the only "opinion" that matters, that of the FBI and Justice Department.

Some sage said if you write out an indictment and put it under your pillow you will wake up, turn on the television in the morning, and see Secretary Clinton in an orange jump suit.

The same sage who said a Clinton indictment is a chimera.

This has devolved into you spouting nonsense.
Bye Bye

posts on this site that get praised

Nobody forced her to use a basement server to block FOIA requests. No one forced her to stall handing over emails for 2 years. No one forced her to exchange classified information with non-clearances people.

seriously you desperately needing something other than the will of the MAJORITY people to help get Bernie into Office. Email is not an issue, except in the mind of RW outlets you feel are appropriate to post here on DU.

Oh, never mind, I though you said "Thrash this Thread."

although the Obama White House believed Blumenthal had spread false rumors about Obama during the 2008 campaign, and although Obama had banned Blumenthal from any State Dept business, SOS Clinton kept up a steady and solicited correspondence with Blumenthal behind Obama's back:

...cant you just paraphrase, I get really bored reading the same old crap that doesn't have any legs.

it

I don't think Bernie is going away.

#WhichHillary blatantly lied.