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Ex-Clinton Staffer Says No to Testifying to Congress
By Associated Press
April 22, 2016
WASHINGTON (AP) -- A lawyer for the former Hillary Clinton staffer who set up her private email server has told Congress that his client still will not appear before Senate committees investigating the matter.
The Senate committees on the judiciary and homeland security had renewed their request to question Bryan Pagliano about the server after news broke that the FBI, which is also investigating the server, had offered him immunity.
Committee leaders had told Pagliano that the immunity grant should relieve any concerns he had about being prosecuted if he testified before them and requested that he appear before them. He had refused to speak with them last year, invoking his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination in declining to answer questions from the lawmakers about the server and email setup.
But Pagliano's attorney, Mark MacDougall, said in a March 11 letter obtained by The Associated Press on Friday that Pagliano would "respectfully decline" their invitation
MacDougall also stressed that Pagliano had "not waived his rights under the Fifth Amendment as a matter of fact or law," though he did not provide any details about the grant of immunity.....
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/04/22/ex-clinton_staffer_says_no_to_testifying_to_congress_130368.html
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,732 posts)LuvLoogie
(7,011 posts)Loudestlib
(980 posts)LuvLoogie
(7,011 posts)is concerned are purely political.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)The damage from this is really going to sting by November, if we continue down this disastrous path.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Congress will slap him with contempt. This has the appearance that he's more afraid of Clinton revenge than Congressional response.
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)about this possibility?
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Did they make a statement that his testimony would jeopardize the investigation? Did they insist on a closed hearing or postponement of a couple months?
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)They finished examining the emails. Comey said they were proceeding to the next phase, of interviewing Clinton, aides, and witnesses. I believe they're interviewing the hacker they extridicted from Romania currently. Don't think they've interviewed Clinton or aides yet. Final phase is to review evidence with DoJ attorneys to determine if crimes have been committed, by whom, and if there is enough evidence to get convictions.
The investigation is not over...wishfull thinking by Hillarians doesn't make it so.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)It reads like I meant the FBI stopped their own investigation. Misleading. My bad writing.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)Senate Oversight Committee investigation - looks like that was Mar.21. Chaffetz et al. are continuing probing around under the guise of the Benghazi Committee, but can only use FOIA - so pretty useless re. confidential material.
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)quickesst
(6,280 posts)Seems like we can't put these things away for 5 minutes before we have to drag them back out again.
Admiral Loinpresser
(3,859 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)I doubt he has a Clinton future. Probably concerned about riding in small planes.
Admiral Loinpresser
(3,859 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)the loser, of course: the country
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)If he refuses to testify before Congress, it will make it look like he has something to hide.
Then the perception about him having something to hide will be used against Hillary for the rest of the campaign season.
The damage will be real before the primary season is over.
MuseRider
(34,111 posts)because of immunity granted. It makes me wonder just WHO he is afraid of.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)Ask that school principal in Chicago his opinion.
MuseRider
(34,111 posts)there isn't there.
It was my very first thought. If Congress called me with offered immunity I would go in an instant, it is like a court order right? I did not know you had the right to say no. If contempt charges are not enough to bring this about it makes me wonder how much is a stake for this man.
IOW, this makes sense in only one way for me. He is afraid but not of the US Congress. I hope we hear more. I don't really like thinking this.
Skink
(10,122 posts)pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)I just wonder if SHE will go for her interview with the FBI.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I wouldn't submit myself to Republican bullying either.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)There will be variations on this theme on this and other things for as long as she's in office.
And variations of this theme will become the preoccupation of Congress and the media and ultimately the WH.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)They'll be mean, so we should back down.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)nichomachus
(12,754 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)Of course, there's no difference any longer when it comes to "disqualifying" Hillary - both left and right are eager to take her down by any method available.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)in "by any means necessary". Next thing we'll hear that waterboarding is OK if it's done to a Hillary staffer to "get the truth".
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)dsc
(52,162 posts)since what use would it be for anyone who didn't have something to hide.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Says the Wizard of OZ!!!
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)threatened. What if he knows too much...what if...
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)okasha
(11,573 posts)in Trey Gowdy's witchhunt? Or lend any credence to their smear campaign?
Your insinuation that the man might fear for his life at the Clintons' hands is straight up Rove propaganda. Sixteen million buys a lot of it, no?
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)Or somebody in the upper crust not even associated with the Clinton's...what if there is a serious threat to his life. The President gets threats everyday from crazy people or people who believe one thing or another. Please do not put words into my mouth (or post)
okasha
(11,573 posts)It'll get you nothing but dizzy.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Even if i had nothing to hide I would never submit to a gop inquisition unless I had to.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)think
(11,641 posts)floppyboo
(2,461 posts)This is new?
The FBI told the DOJ to stop their investigation.
Where is the 'news' here?
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-fbi-asked-the-state-department-to-stop-investigating-hillary-clintons-emails-2016-4
The department consulted the FBI about this in February, and in March the law enforcement agency asked the State Department to halt its inquiry.
"The FBI communicated to us that we should follow our standard practice, which is to put our internal review on hold while there is an ongoing law enforcement investigation," State Department spokeswoman Elizabeth Trudeau told reporters.
think
(11,641 posts)3rd. This is not about the DOJ investigation. This is congress wanting to interview the person.
Maybe you were responding to a different thread?
Does it matter what thread? Just pointing out it is mis-leading. And old. And doesn't make sense in context of 'now'. Congress is not wanting to interview him now - Read the article you posted - that was March 11. Congress is no longer investigating. Read the link I posted.
This was in almost every publication back over a month ago. AP may be re-printing today, but reporting? No.
paulthompson
(2,398 posts)The refusal happened on March 11, but it only became public knowledge today. That makes it news.
And the link you cite is about putting a State Department investigation on hold in favor of the FBI investigation, which has nothing to do with this, which is appearing before Congress.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)I must have my time line messed up. What does the March 11 letter have to do with today? Do you have a link for a congressional investigation going on today?
btw - I am not hoping for a Clinton pardon. Just want to keep the facts straight. Clinton supporters should beware of hurting the Democratic party.
paulthompson
(2,398 posts)A State Department investigation is totally different from a Congressional investigation. You keep acting like they're the same or similar. The FBI isn't going to tell Congress what it can or can't do.
Also, this is very relevant to today because the Congressional investigators aren't going to take Pagliano's refusal lying down. I'm sure there's more maneuvering going on behind the scenes. But what's getting reported to the public is obviously coming with a delay, as often happens in cases like these.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)The Department of Justice is/was a congressional investigation? What congressional investigation are you talking about? Do you have a link?
The AP article is from yesterday, the 21st (reported in your article as today) was from Comey speaking to reporters in London, answering questions of the investigation. He was providing old news to a new crowd.
paulthompson
(2,398 posts)The FBI is investigating Clinton's emails. The FBI is part of the Justice Department.
By contrast, there's no formal Congressional investigation into Clinton's emails right now. However, Congress members can do whatever they want, they can hold hearings on whatever they want. From time to time, some in Congress have gotten involved in this email stuff, especially as part of the House Benghazi Committee. To give an example, when it came out in the news that Platte River Networks managed Clinton's emails, a senator or two wrote a letter to that company asking if they had security clearance to deal with classified information. (It turns out they didn't.) Often, Congressional investigators (meaning people working on the staff of various senators or representatives) can get answers that even news reporters can't due to their special powers and authority.
That's what's happening here with Pagliano. So the FBI investigation isn't the only game in town. There also are dozens of lawsuits going on slowly forcing more of this info into the public light. Sometimes these other things step on the toes of the FBI investigation, in which case the FBI asks for some info to stay secret until their investigation is over. That's happened with one or two of the lawsuits recently.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)They told the Dept. of State to stop their independent investigation being conducted at the time.
The FBI is working with the DoJ in this case and keeping them informed about where the investigation has lead them. Once the FBI recommends an indictment, it will be up to the DoJ to decide whether to prosecute or not.
WhenTheLeveeBreaks
(55 posts)Back in '72/'73 I believe the FBI was a corrupt organization. They really weren't that interested in getting to the bottom of the Nixon administration crimes. You got the feeling their motto was "nothing to see here".
If it wasn't for the Sam Irvin Watergate committee that eventually pried out John Dean and then the tapes, I believe Nixon would have served out his term. As a matter of fact, I'm sure of it.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)haikugal
(6,476 posts)I feel like we're all being sucked into a nightmare...1984 and Animal Farm.