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I prefer someone who wants to inspire us, rather than someone who wants to demoralize us (Original Post) Armstead Apr 2016 OP
The difference is that Sanders can't control Congress, but Hillary can. merrily Apr 2016 #1
Well she'll testify real good at all those hearings they'll start Armstead Apr 2016 #2
That's always so inspiring to watch. lagomorph777 Apr 2016 #3
And so respectfully that they will surely be won over by her and vote as she wishes. Just as they merrily Apr 2016 #6
Yes, just as her health care plan sailed through Congress without a hitch. nt nichomachus Apr 2016 #20
That was different. That Congress had a Dem majority in both houses and her husband was head of the merrily Apr 2016 #25
I was gonna ask......were you around when Bill was in Office? peace13 Apr 2016 #21
Around what? merrily Apr 2016 #23
Wow, that speech of Clinton's is not only pathetic, bjo59 Apr 2016 #4
She was actually slamming Obama in that clip...With her it's the same old schtick Armstead Apr 2016 #10
Wow. I heard that "celestial choir" thing and it sounded so much like it was copying bjo59 Apr 2016 #14
When did Hillary go back to her previoius hairstyle? NurseJackie Apr 2016 #5
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed Hillary changes her positions more often than her hairstyle Fumesucker Apr 2016 #7
Shhhh. We're not supposed to comment on her appearance. It's sexist, allegedly. merrily Apr 2016 #8
That's back when she was calling Obama an unrealistic con artist selling fantasy...Before.... Armstead Apr 2016 #9
Well, he's certainly selling a fantasy in his fundraiser emails. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #11
I love people who are issue oriented. Armstead Apr 2016 #12
She and others who want her to defeat him, many of them lobbyists, spoke up about it. Big deal. merrily Apr 2016 #26
Funny...I've seen more negative, down and out, the futilty,fall on our swords rhetoric Sheepshank Apr 2016 #13
He is honest about our problems but optimistic about the ability to do better Armstead Apr 2016 #15
Nice try. Sen Sanders supports the People while Clinton supports the Wealthy 1%. That's the rhett o rick Apr 2016 #16
YADDA YADDA YADDA, LIE COUGH, NUDGE LIE, MAKE UP SHIT Sheepshank Apr 2016 #17
And you find "We can't do anything meaningful" more exciting? Armstead Apr 2016 #35
Whats so depressing? liberalnarb Apr 2016 #19
Berie's honest nichomachus Apr 2016 #22
That's a good one anigbrowl Apr 2016 #33
If hearing the truth depresses you WDIM Apr 2016 #28
Sorry, Bernie does not inspire me. I don't look to POTUS candidates for inspiration. beaglelover Apr 2016 #18
But yet nichomachus Apr 2016 #24
People look to the POTUS to inspire and set a direction, and lead the governmental process... Armstead Apr 2016 #34
"Ask not what you can do for your country...just hold your nose and vote for MEEEE" - Hillary HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #27
I prefer honesty to lies. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2016 #29
Your misleading spin is so tangled up it's not even worth adressing Armstead Apr 2016 #30
My, what a convenient excuse. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2016 #31
No excuse...I haven't the time or energy to unravel it Armstead Apr 2016 #32

merrily

(45,251 posts)
6. And so respectfully that they will surely be won over by her and vote as she wishes. Just as they
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:48 PM
Apr 2016

have never. They won't care that she called them the enemy of which she is most proud.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/07/bernie-sanders-is-a-loud-stubborn-socialist-republicans-like-him-anyway/450597/

Sanders is very hard on Republicans for their policies. They get that. It's politics. But he isn't a jerk to them just for the sake of being a jerk or to get cheap applause lines or to play a victim card when caught redhanded.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vast_right-wing_conspiracy

merrily

(45,251 posts)
25. That was different. That Congress had a Dem majority in both houses and her husband was head of the
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:31 PM
Apr 2016

Dem Party, after three terms of Republicans.

That says nothing about her ability to pass legislation with a Republican Congress. Shame on you for trying to float that flim flam.

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
4. Wow, that speech of Clinton's is not only pathetic,
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:46 PM
Apr 2016

but so incredibly disingenuous. She's so transparent. Even her ridiculous "celestial choir" commentary is an attempt to borrow from Bernie's "Shakespearean prose" commentary on her secret Goldman Sachs speeches. Her attempt to even borrow his delivery style is both comical and pathetic. But to your point: agree. "We're not going to just wave a magic wand and make special interest money disappear" says the person who has been vastly enriched by it as an insult lobbed at the person who keeps successfully funding his campaign without taking one red cent of it. That must be so galling to her and the corporate interests that are paying her bags full of money to "get things done."

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
10. She was actually slamming Obama in that clip...With her it's the same old schtick
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:52 PM
Apr 2016

Mock an opponent for inspiring people and for having a positive message

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
14. Wow. I heard that "celestial choir" thing and it sounded so much like it was copying
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:02 PM
Apr 2016

the "Shakespearean prose" part of Bernie's speeches. I thought that clip was current because of the big yellow jacket! I inspected her to guess the time period and the jacket through me off. Oh well - I'm behind the rest of what I said! Thanks for setting me straight.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
9. That's back when she was calling Obama an unrealistic con artist selling fantasy...Before....
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:50 PM
Apr 2016

she started calling Bernie an unrealistic con artist selling fantasy.

Funny how everyone who runs against her is somehow a con artist selling fantasy isn't it?

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
11. Well, he's certainly selling a fantasy in his fundraiser emails.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:55 PM
Apr 2016

... and she's not the only person who's noticed and spoken up about it.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
26. She and others who want her to defeat him, many of them lobbyists, spoke up about it. Big deal.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:34 PM
Apr 2016

Thank you for your concern, but I know exactly why I am donating to Sanders and I will donate until someone tells me I maxed out. (I really haven't been keeping track myself.)

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
13. Funny...I've seen more negative, down and out, the futilty,fall on our swords rhetoric
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:59 PM
Apr 2016

from Bernie than any other candidate...ever.

He is the most depressing, anger riling politician wanting to be POTUS, that is only rivaled by Trump.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
15. He is honest about our problems but optimistic about the ability to do better
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:03 PM
Apr 2016

But I guess it's better to live in ignorant bliss and fatalistic apathy, right?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
16. Nice try. Sen Sanders supports the People while Clinton supports the Wealthy 1%. That's the
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:07 PM
Apr 2016

bottom line. Maybe you think it's cool to side with the Rich, but they don't love you. And they don't love the 2.5 million children in America living on the streets. A by-product of the greedy profit grabbing Wealth 1%.

There are two sides to this class war and the Clinton Family with their $150,000,000 and billion dollar Foundation Retirement System are not on the side of the 2.5 million homeless.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
17. YADDA YADDA YADDA, LIE COUGH, NUDGE LIE, MAKE UP SHIT
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:12 PM
Apr 2016

The op is about inspiration exuded by Bernie....apparently you couldn't find any either. I know just what you mean.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
35. And you find "We can't do anything meaningful" more exciting?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:06 PM
Apr 2016

Heck iof that's the case let's just call off the election. Doesn't matter who gets in.

WDIM

(1,662 posts)
28. If hearing the truth depresses you
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:39 PM
Apr 2016

you should get out and work to change it! Hillary is just more of the same

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
24. But yet
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:27 PM
Apr 2016

You have a picture of a warmongering corporatist as your avatar. You must be inspired by her corruption and warlike attitudes just a little bit.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
34. People look to the POTUS to inspire and set a direction, and lead the governmental process...
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:32 PM
Apr 2016

in that direction

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
29. I prefer honesty to lies.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:42 PM
Apr 2016

One of the real eye-openers of this primary has been that Sanders has been able to run one of the most dishonest campaigns I've seen on the Democratic side, making promise after promise he has no chance of delivering on, and his supporters still, with apparent lack of irony, crow about him being honest and Hillary not being.

This post really drives that home - a comforting lie is preferable to an uncomfortable truth.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
32. No excuse...I haven't the time or energy to unravel it
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:50 PM
Apr 2016

Nor do I expect either to make a damn bit of difference.

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