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Voter intimidation, sketchy voting machines, misinformation: Are Karl Rove & Co. up to no good?
BY CRAIG UNGER
Are Karl Rove and his friends up to their old tricks again in Ohio?
As I report in Boss Rove: Inside Karl Roves Secret Kingdom of Power, in 2004 the presidential race ultimately came down to Ohio. Today, with the election neck and neck once again, observers are asking whether the election will rest on a variety of unusual tactics used by the GOP to game the system in favor of the Republicans.
Among the GOP techniques used in 2004, Democrats complained about the unequal distribution of voting machines, which resulted in students at liberal Kenyon College waiting in line for as long as 11 hours while conservative voters at evangelical schools zipped through with no lines at all. There were caging tactics to challenge the voter registrations of college students, African-Americans and others who vote heavily Democratic. Republican volunteers known as the Mighty Texas Task Force were widely accused of intimidating would-be Democrat voters.
And there were numerous anomalies that some attributed to a computerized Man-in-the-Middle attack made possible by the fact that Secretary of States office in Ohio used a firm with strong GOP ties, SmarTech, as the fail-over site to handle returns on election night.
The final result? Even though the exit polls had Democrat John Kerry winning Ohio by 4.2 points, in the end George W. Bush emerged victorious.
For the most part, these unusual techniques could be attributed to Kenneth Blackwell, who, as Ohios Secretary of State, was charged with overseeing the election in a fair and impartial manner but who also happened to be co-chair of the Bush-Cheney campaign in Ohio, and, as such, was one of Roves chief lieutenants. As a result, many people believe Karl Rove stole Ohio to win the 2004 election.
more:
http://www.salon.com/2012/10/26/karl_rove_style_dirty_tricks_in_ohio/
msongs
(67,433 posts)mzmolly
(51,003 posts)polls (when averaged) sadly - predicted a Bush win.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2004/president/us/general_election_bush_vs_kerry-939.html
mzmolly
(51,003 posts)LisaL
(44,974 posts)After people already voted.
Kerry was ahead in a large number of states in exit polls. All of these states went to Bush.
All of them. It never made any sense to me.
mzmolly
(51,003 posts)stolen elections - in the larger context.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)My very liberal boss, who has been open to believing other conspiracy theories and who is an expert on polling, said that even he would never claim that an election had been rigged based on early exit poll numbers. He explained how they reweight it as the real numbers come in, because as they are conducting them they don't know the exact demographics of who is turning out. I don't remember exactly what he explained, but he is enough of an expert that if he says early exit polls are not evidence of rigging, I believe him.
ShadowLiberal
(2,237 posts)I recall reading that part of the problem with some of the leaked early exit polls is they oversampled women, who were more democratic, since Kerry supporters were much less shy about telling anyone their support for him, while Bush people were more embarrassed and just walked away from pollsters without saying anything.
I say look at it this way from that, Bush's supporters were idiots who knew they were making a big mistake, but did it anyway, and were too ashamed to admit it to a pollster. It's a moral victory for us in 2004 at least when we look back.
amborin
(16,631 posts)nobunnyclue
(103 posts)... there were also polling places in the urban areas where the Dems were successful at having hours extended because of the lines. At that time I'm pretty sure we had a Democrat SOS. Most of the judges in those areas also "lean" Democrat. This year it's a Republican SOS again, but I think the Obama camp knows what to expect and how to play the game if access becomes an issue. They will be watching in the big Dem turnout areas, perhaps not so much in Red counties, and they are really pushing hard on the vote early option.