2016 Postmortem

silvershadow

(10,336 posts) Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:48 PM Apr 2016

Rare Indiana poll shows Trump and Clinton narrowly ahead

Donald Trump tops his Republican rivals in Indiana, according to a WTHR/Howey Politics poll released on Friday.

Trump leads with 37 percent support in the state, which votes on May 3, followed by Ted Cruz at 31 percent and John Kasich at 22 percent.

Among Indiana Democrats, Hillary Clinton holds a somewhat narrower lead over Bernie Sanders.

Clinton has a 3-point advantage over the Vermont senator, 48 percent to 45 percent. Core Democrats favor Clinton by a 13-point margin (53 percent to 40 percent), but Sanders performs better among occasional and first-time voters by even wider margins (55 percent to 40 percent among occasional voters and 66 percent to 27 percent among first-time voters).

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/poll-indiana-trump-hillary-clinton-222316#ixzz46atlX2Fk

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Rare Indiana poll shows Trump and Clinton narrowly ahead (Original Post) silvershadow Apr 2016 OP

Anything close is terrible news for Bernie. CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #1

92 delegates given proportionally....so it won’t do Sanders any good factfinder_77 Apr 2016 #2

Pretty strong showing for Sanders in what is , politically, Smarmie Doofus Apr 2016 #3

Exactly right. Used to pretty evenly divided, but the war on unions silvershadow Apr 2016 #4

O carried Indiana only by 1 percentage point in 08 factfinder_77 Apr 2016 #5

Because I am a Democrat. Why are you asking? silvershadow Apr 2016 #6

only supported a Democrat for president five times since 1900 - in 1912, 1932, 1936, 1964 and 08 factfinder_77 Apr 2016 #7

And? What is your point? Or do you have one? nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #8

Welcome to DU. Smarmie Doofus Apr 2016 #9

2008 was a total fluke. We will likely never repeat that aside from a much bigger national win. Zynx Apr 2016 #21

Wasn't a fluke. Was a GREAT candidate and an inspired voter base. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #23

It was a severe national economic crisis and Indiana swung unusually hard to Obama that year. Zynx Apr 2016 #25

I live here. Have for over 50 years. I know exactly our history. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #26

Those are his best states when the minority population is also low. Renew Deal Apr 2016 #10

Which "minorities" in particular? nt Smarmie Doofus Apr 2016 #11

Makes no sense. Please explain silvershadow Apr 2016 #13

Red states with low diversity are best for Bernie. Renew Deal Apr 2016 #15

Ok. Thank you for that. Perhaps. I'm evaluating it all. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #16

Help me out: Define "diversity". Smarmie Doofus Apr 2016 #18

Some of Sanders' best performances have been in more conservative areas KingFlorez Apr 2016 #14

If Hoosiers liked the Carrier relocation, then by all means, support Clinton! nt Romulox Apr 2016 #12

It's an open primary so Bernie will probably win this one. nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #17

Wow, in Indiana??? K and R! JaneyVee Apr 2016 #19

Yep. I'm volunteering for the campaign this weekend! I amy fly to California as well, not silvershadow Apr 2016 #20

You seem to miss the context of this. He needs to win Indiana by a huge margin to even be in this. Zynx Apr 2016 #22

I think you missed my context... JaneyVee Apr 2016 #24

CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)

1. Anything close is terrible news for Bernie.

Reply to silvershadow (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:51 PM

Apr 2016

factfinder_77

(841 posts)

2. 92 delegates given proportionally....so it won’t do Sanders any good

Reply to silvershadow (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:53 PM

Apr 2016

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)

3. Pretty strong showing for Sanders in what is , politically,

Reply to silvershadow (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:53 PM

Apr 2016

a VERY conservative state.

Obama carried it in 2008 general . ( Which must be some kind of HISTORIC).

I don't think so in 2012.

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)

4. Exactly right. Used to pretty evenly divided, but the war on unions

Reply to Smarmie Doofus (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:58 PM

Apr 2016

by shipping jobs out of state coupled wth gerrymandering changed the landscape. We should have won in 12. I was disappointed.

factfinder_77

(841 posts)

5. O carried Indiana only by 1 percentage point in 08

Reply to silvershadow (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:00 PM

Apr 2016

so why disappointed..

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)

6. Because I am a Democrat. Why are you asking?

Reply to factfinder_77 (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:02 PM

Apr 2016

factfinder_77

(841 posts)

7. only supported a Democrat for president five times since 1900 - in 1912, 1932, 1936, 1964 and 08

Reply to silvershadow (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:04 PM

Apr 2016

...

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)

8. And? What is your point? Or do you have one? nt

Reply to factfinder_77 (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:07 PM

Apr 2016

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)

9. Welcome to DU.

Reply to factfinder_77 (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:15 PM

Apr 2016

April 5, 2016.

What turned you on to this place?

Feel free to share.

Zynx

(21,328 posts)

21. 2008 was a total fluke. We will likely never repeat that aside from a much bigger national win.

Reply to silvershadow (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:15 PM

Apr 2016

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)

23. Wasn't a fluke. Was a GREAT candidate and an inspired voter base. nt

Reply to Zynx (Reply #21)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:18 PM

Apr 2016

Zynx

(21,328 posts)

25. It was a severe national economic crisis and Indiana swung unusually hard to Obama that year.

Reply to silvershadow (Reply #23)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:51 PM

Apr 2016

Historically, Indiana is a very conservative state, the most in the Great Lakes region by a mile. Winning it is a big challenge and it shouldn't be our first priority.

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)

26. I live here. Have for over 50 years. I know exactly our history. nt

Reply to Zynx (Reply #25)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:52 PM

Apr 2016

Renew Deal

(81,861 posts)

10. Those are his best states when the minority population is also low.

Reply to Smarmie Doofus (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:16 PM

Apr 2016

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)

11. Which "minorities" in particular? nt

Reply to Renew Deal (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:18 PM

Apr 2016

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)

13. Makes no sense. Please explain

Reply to Renew Deal (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:20 PM

Apr 2016

Renew Deal

(81,861 posts)

15. Red states with low diversity are best for Bernie.

Reply to silvershadow (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:31 PM

Apr 2016

Red states with high diversity are worst for him.

Best to worst states for Bernie
1. Red states, low diversity (UT, ID, KA, ME, MI, NH, etc)
2. Blue States, low diversity
3. Blue States, high diversity
4. Red states, high diversity (MS, AL, LA, SC, GA, etc)

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)

16. Ok. Thank you for that. Perhaps. I'm evaluating it all. nt

Reply to Renew Deal (Reply #15)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:33 PM

Apr 2016

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)

18. Help me out: Define "diversity".

Reply to Renew Deal (Reply #15)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:09 PM

Apr 2016

>>>Red states, high diversity (MS, AL, LA, SC, GA, etc)>>>>

Are there lots of Hispanics, Asians, s.e. Asians, Carrribeans, M-Easterners, European-born, African-born, etc. etc etc. in these states?

.... or are you really talking about AAs?

And if the later is the case.... how is that "diversity" in the modern sense of the word?