this late in the process, though.

but better late than never.

piece doing much for Bernie, one way or the other.

way too corporate for me.

I just hope I live long enough to see them all fired and replaced with real journalists.

Hey, if you are going to shill, you may as well have a degree and/or experience in the field.

because they sure don't know shit about journalism.

Journalism was for idealists. If this Presidential primary has shown me anything, it's shown me that journalism and journalistic ethics are dead in mass media, from the head of network news down. And I didn't have a high opinion of mass media before. I did, however, once automatically give some credibility to papers like the NYT and LAT. No more.

it's even worse than I feared.

"No matter how cynical you become, it's never enough to keep up." Lily Tomlin

It's bullshit of course. I have zero faith the D(L)NC will give up the neoliberal ghost.

I hate not seen this spate of "Bernie is the future of the Party" in the way you describe, but you're probably right.

Be patient is the shibboleth, perhaps replacing "pragmatic."

Be patient. Once we finish making the world safe for democracy, we can have peace (every war and military action since at least 1900)

Be patient. Once we bail out the health insurance industry, we'll have the first necessary step toward Medicare for all.

Be patient. Once I collect more money than any Presidential candidate in the world has ever collected, I will fight Citizens United tooth and nail.

This puff piece is an attempt to placate the kids. "Just vote for us a little longer. We'll start doing what you want very soon. Really!"

I like that.

off with "time served"

You can bet she isn't the future of the Democratic Party.

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He"Lloyd play the roll of the progressive Goldwater to some future TRUE progressive POTUS. Even if progressives lose this battle, fighting the battle has won us the war.

Time is on our side.

Rolling Stone did a great cover, but, sometimes, I like to find the original version.

Who'd a thought that a trombone player would have that kind of influence. He played with Miles Davis, Stan Kenton, JJ Johnson....Your opening windows I didn't know existed...

After the war, Winding joined Benny Goodman's band, and later moved on to Stan Kenton's orchestra. Winding participated in the first of the Birth of the Cool sessions in 1949, appearing on 4 of the 12 tracks (while J. J. Johnson appears on the other eight, having participated on the other two sessions). In 1954, at the urging of producer Ozzie Cadena, he joined forces with Johnson to produce a highly successful series of trombone duet recordings, which were initially on Savoy Records and then on the Columbia Records label. While at Columbia, Winding experimented with different instrumentation in brass ensembles: the 1956 album Jay & Kai + 6 features a trombone octet, as well as Winding and Johnson performing on the trombone-like valved horn called the trombonium. Winding also arranged and/or composed many of the tracks he and Johnson recorded. Unlike most players who absorbed the "bebop" style, Winding notably used more overtly trombonistic slide and mute effects from the earlier eras of jazz, as had another former Goodman trombonist Bill Harris, sounds which Johnson studiously avoided.

Maybe they'll put bern's.photo on the $3 bill.

Bourdain yesterday - I was watching his superb travel/cooking show and he asked the young man about politics. There is a shift between the old who remember WW2 and the young who want to move on. The young man responded that the old should give way to the young who have a stake in the future. Immediately thought how similar to our own politics.

And that gets to her hawkishness. Leslie Stahl on Maher last night pointed out that HRC is most hawkish of all candidates both dem and GOP. She is stuck in old cold war politics. Time for a change. Finally, time for new path forward.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Precision and concision. That's the game.[/center][/font][hr]

.. sometimes you just can't afford the price needed to buy some people's votes. Who do you think we are? Whores®? (not that there's anything wrong with whores, they are good people, I was referring to the women Hillary's camp throws under the bus when they need to pretend to be outraged over something some Sanders supporter said.)

Maybe Sanders has done some good but to really bring it home we need a better Sanders. Someone who works as part of a team. I think that's been Sanders' failing all along. It's why Obama's recent message to BLM resonates: you have to be willing to work with your opposition and, if necessary, compromise. You get nowhere if you just shout or tell people they're worthless.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Precision and concision. That's the game.[/center][/font][hr]

real change is all about overthrowing the establishment.

Obama's message to BLM is "we the establishment, the same establishment that told you we heard you last time, really heard you this time, but if you really want change then the answer is to work with the people you worked with before and only resulted in putting you further into the hole."

The establishment always tells you that in order to change the establishment you have to compromise with the establishment ... which always means believing them when they tell you they will eventually get around to dealing with your crisis just as soon as they have no more establishment crises to deal with first. How many time has the middle and lower classes been told THEY have to make 'sacrifices' for the good of the country because of one crisis or the other, then when that crisis is over, instead of dealing with addressing the sacrifices that the middle and lower classes had made, some new crisis comes along, and one more 'sacrifice' is asked of the middle and lower classes?

No raises for you, sorry we need to cut your pensions, opps we just can't afford all that medicare, it's for the sake of the 'common-good' so your country appreciates your sacrifices, really we do!!

and start saying nice things about Bernie supporters so they will vote for the corrupted corporate not-a-whore in the GE.

The insincere fake pandering gets turned up to 11.

To him a 35-45 year old person of a young voter?
Give me a break!

...and so you were told the truth in 1968 that the next Democratic nominee would be more liberal.

own campaign unfortunately.
What followed was the rule of the SD, which meant
the party to charge again.
Carter only won because of Watergate, and in the end
he followed the Friedman "trickle down" theory.
From then on it democratic policies on the economic
side went downhill.

Liz Warren was the original choice, but she did not run and does not see the error of her ways. It turns out she is a Democrat and is better positioned to be the immediate future of the party.

Bernie's "message" is like a pop tune on Pandora. I was going to say a Taylor Swift song, but she'll probably end up doing more for liberal solidarity because she busts her ass and likes people.

... and Mr. "We'll See" when it comes to supporting down ballot dems isn't into helping anyone else

there will be plenty of new voters as well as
indies, who would support the down ballot list.

Without him, many of these people won't even
bother to vote. I suppose that you prefer that.

... latter if the last 10% guys want to do their own party then let them...

I have a feeling they're more into complaining than action seeing they've been persona non grata even now

should Clinton be elected POTUS< begin the day Clinton receives the nomination and be highly visible and within the Democratic Party all four years of her term.

We are looking at 20 years to transform the Party and Nation away from neo-liberalism and neo-conservatism.

Patience but maybe more stubborn.

This year's election is unusual in many, many ways. There won't be another Bernie vs. Hillary type of campaign. There is no other Bernie out there, nor another Hillary (perish the thought).

But Klein is fundamentally right - - the energy on the Democratic side is for massive change, a major swing to activism, to our most treasured humanistic values. If there is a strong wish to preserve the Democratic Party, it will only be possible if we completely rebuild the Party and trash the DINO version, and get rid of the DLC.

Either a complete start-over and redesign of the Dem Party, or a complete start-over with a third party. Third parties are hard to build, but US History has included groups that started out as third parties and then became dominant (e.g., the Whigs, which became the Republicans). If we have truly "had it," perhaps we should think big and replace this crummy DINO Party.

What makes it possible to envision a major change by 2020 is that the coalition of progressive/humane/liberal/minority voters, many of which are now independents, could become a dominant Party quite soon, if only wholesale changes are made (no more superdelegates, no DLC, no more "republican lite" nonsense).

and I hope it is, then it needs to move down ballot. The revolution needs to produce a congress that will put change on Ms. Clinton's desk to sign.