2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie No Longer Promising to Fight Until the Convention
Bernie was on several morning shows on Sunday. Of course he was asked about the end game for his campaign, and he promised to stay in the race through California.
This is obviously very the sensible position for him to take. The folks that have been dreaming of a DNC floor fight can give that one up, your candidate doesn't seem to want that.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)firebrand80
(2,760 posts)I simply argue that he has no chance to actually win
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)It never changes, and nothing good that ever Bernie does changes that.
Good morning, morningfog!
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)He is tired and the loss in NY did not help him.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)It was more a justification to keep going than an actual strategy
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,341 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Demsrule86
(68,609 posts)Why stay until California? It makes no difference.
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)which makes sense to me. But you're right, it won't make a difference unless he were to win California with something like 80% of the vote, which is obviously unlikely.
I do hope that he tones down the rhetoric against Hillary, starting tomorrow, when he will fall behind in delegates even more. His campaign has rested to a large extent on an "artful smear" of Hillary, twisting her positions to the point of demonization, and in order to prepare for the pivot towards the GE, he needs to tone that down and present her positions in a more nuanced manner.
And I would have said the same of Hillary if the positions were reversed.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Set up to prevent hostile takeover and Hillary will still be ahead in PD at the convention.
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)but nothing of the scope that the Democrats do.
And if BS takes it all the way to the convention, he will lose in the first ballot. Secretary Clinton will have the majority of pledged delegates and she will have a super duper majority of Superdelegates ... there will be no contest.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)SFnomad
(3,473 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)they are wishing they had the SD's.
IamMab
(1,359 posts)I mean, we know he ate well, based on the menu, but how much rest could he have gotten trying to cram a 3-hour stump speech into 10 minutes?
mmonk
(52,589 posts)firebrand80
(2,760 posts)A few blocks away. Nobody is letting 1968 happen again
mmonk
(52,589 posts)firebrand80
(2,760 posts)None of which will affect anything going on inside.
Your candidate dropping out and endorsing his opponent tends takes the wind out of the sails.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)dinkytron
(568 posts)They will get, but when it's too late.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)To be controlled by the few.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)firebrand80
(2,760 posts)There are security concerns. There are likely to be some pretty important people inside, like a certian POTUS, for instance
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)firebrand80
(2,760 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)firebrand80
(2,760 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)firebrand80
(2,760 posts)To get off your chest
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Much better said with a hand gesture anyway.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)The climate is at stake and with it, our children's future. You may not care but I do.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Demsrule86
(68,609 posts)I have a word for such people...Republicans.
treestar
(82,383 posts)that's all. Protesting that the party who gets the most votes gets the nomination.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)That is no slam on Bernie, I'm 30 years younger and I don't understand how either he OR Hillary have the energy they do. The campaign trail would literally kill me.
I think it's sensible for him to stay in through California. I've never been one to call for him to drop out. That way, everyone gets to vote fair and square and it will be clear what the mandate of the Democratic voters is. I think some here on DU will still be calling it a fix, but in the real world, voters will know that Bernie took it to CA and just didn't have the votes. That will prepare the party for unity. I expect Bernie to give Hillary a strong endorsement and get out on the campaign trail for her (after a little break). Exactly the same as I would expect Hillary to do for him if the situation were reversed.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,205 posts)If I lived in California, it would piss me off that my vote doesn't count in the primary because it's so late. Unless HRC locks up the nomination with pledged delegates only, Sanders should stay in the race PERIOD. Consider the ongoing FBI investigation. What if Bernie dropped out and THEN the FBI recommended indictment? Do you really think all of Hillary's superdelegates would stick with her?
Maru Kitteh
(28,341 posts)and petition for change with their state Democratic party.
aikoaiko
(34,174 posts)We'll see what happens.
A political brawl at the convention would be very interesting.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)imagine2015
(2,054 posts)firebrand80
(2,760 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)a) A lot can happen to a 69 year old stroke survivor who is under active FBI investigation between June 7th and July 25th. b) Sanders isn't angling for a position within the party or administration, but being mostly young independents, his supporters votes for Clinton ARE contingent on her adoption of their goals. The convention is the last opportunity to pressure Clinton to do so before she makes her rightward lurch for the general election.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)She had a blood clot a couple of years ago, but there's been no talk of a stroke. That's pretty libellous if you have no proof, to make undocumented proclamations about someone's medical history.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)"stroke" does not require neurological damage.