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bigtree

(85,999 posts)
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 08:50 AM Apr 2016

“You say you’re running a political revolution, but you keep parsing"

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Joy Reid: Sanders Keeps Making ‘Excuses’ for Why He’s Not Getting More Votes

Bernie Sanders said on Meet the Press today that he’s losing states because more people don’t vote. Later on in the show, Joy Reid called him out for making that his fallback.

Chuck Todd observed Sanders’ line was an “interesting new excuse,” and Reid agreed that all his excuses are a problem.

“You say you’re running a political revolution,” she said, “but you keep parsing––’Well, we just don’t have the right kind of voter motivated enough or informed enough.'”

She said if Sanders is seriously leading a ‘revolutionary movement based on lifting up people at the bottom, then they should be hearing your message or you might not be doing something correctly.”


http://www.mediaite.com/tv/joy-reid-sanders-keeps-making-excuses-for-why-hes-not-getting-more-votes/

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“You say you’re running a political revolution, but you keep parsing" (Original Post) bigtree Apr 2016 OP
Chuck Todd, being a total asshole, dismisses the obvious. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #1
First: "We didn't try to get their vote. We didn't campaign in the south?" Jitter65 Apr 2016 #2
Sure they do Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #3
CNN, August 2015: Why poor people still aren't voting Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #11
Cause Sanders can't reach poor people with a message surrounding economic insecurity when uponit7771 Apr 2016 #19
This is exactly right ... salinsky Apr 2016 #27
So how did Hillary's "message" reach them? beedle Apr 2016 #43
Yeah, more of the poor vote for her than Sanders in diverse areas so... yeah, it did uponit7771 Apr 2016 #57
It's odder still HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #26
So 1. why arent they voting and 2. Does this mean many who support Bernie Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #51
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2016 #18
KABOOM! Exactly. brush Apr 2016 #33
re: "We didn't try to get their vote. We didn't campaign in the south" thesquanderer Apr 2016 #42
He doesn't talk like a 'revolution' leader anymore. CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #4
More troll bait from the usual suspects... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #5
Reid is pretending not to understand what a revolution is. Orsino Apr 2016 #6
Reid doesn't have to worry about paying a mortgage tblue Apr 2016 #52
Joy Reid doesn't care about "the poor®" beedle Apr 2016 #7
trashing another progressive? bigtree Apr 2016 #13
What 'reeks to high heaven' beedle Apr 2016 #14
your little diatribe is everything wrong with the Sanders campaign bigtree Apr 2016 #15
If the fact she just beedle Apr 2016 #23
I brought it up because I'm tired of the attacks on prominent blacks bigtree Apr 2016 #25
Is there a chance that, based on your profile info, you could be overly sensitive or reading into floriduck Apr 2016 #35
I'm not under any obligation to mollycoddle an off topic post bigtree Apr 2016 #38
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #46
fuckin-a! frylock Apr 2016 #47
Racism is inconvenient to many white people. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #55
Podium Bird told them only Sanders can judge who a progressive is /sarcasm uponit7771 Apr 2016 #22
Podium bird still sticks in your craw, doesn't it? frylock Apr 2016 #48
When she's right, I'll agree. When she's not, I won't tblue Apr 2016 #54
I can't understand why there was no huge emphasis by the Sanders campaign to register . . . brush Apr 2016 #37
I don't disagree beedle Apr 2016 #39
I'm afraid the Sanders revolution is going to need a new headliner. Bernie will be 78 in 4 years. brush Apr 2016 #40
Talking, not listening forjusticethunders Apr 2016 #8
Joy does the eye roll at anti gay bigotry so I have not watched that act for years.... Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #9
The guy is losing badly. He has no self-respect left. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #10
Sanders is not being honest or truthful about why he's losing. baldguy Apr 2016 #12
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #29
Yes, it's never "my message isn't getting to non middle aged and young white males" it's... uponit7771 Apr 2016 #34
His excuse now is that he can't excite more people to the polls. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #16
Joy Reid is a corporatist, stooge, hater of leaves, Bird shooter, extraordinaire... . what else? tia uponit7771 Apr 2016 #17
You just can't stop obsessing on that little bird, can you? frylock Apr 2016 #49
You know there are posters here with the bird and Sanders on it right? Jus sayin, the bird... uponit7771 Apr 2016 #50
And it's tearing you up inside. frylock Apr 2016 #53
to see so much energy wasted on fantasy? yeah... you're right uponit7771 Apr 2016 #56
Let it go. frylock Apr 2016 #58
Here's the embedded video...easier to watch. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #20
thank you! bigtree Apr 2016 #21
You're welcome. And, here's another kick! LOL! Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #24
Todd and Reid are just corporate shills paid KPN Apr 2016 #28
We will see if this "revolution" is real when the midterms roll around redstateblues Apr 2016 #31
+1, this should be its own OP... this is spot on... if Sanders revolution fizzles out its cause he.. uponit7771 Apr 2016 #36
"the GE (when many if not most Berners will cast a protest vote if Hillary is the nominee" bigtree Apr 2016 #32
Could you try to be a little more condescending please? Armstead Apr 2016 #45
Sanders revolution has been a flop Gothmog Apr 2016 #30
It's almost like a candidate nichomachus Apr 2016 #41
This is why the media and politics are so damn stupid Armstead Apr 2016 #44
 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
1. Chuck Todd, being a total asshole, dismisses the obvious.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 08:52 AM
Apr 2016

Of course it's because Sanders's supporters don't vote. His biggest, hottest demographic has the poorest voting percentage in the country.

Duh.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
2. First: "We didn't try to get their vote. We didn't campaign in the south?"
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 08:59 AM
Apr 2016

Now: "Poor people don't vote." Well they certainly don't vote for you if you never ask them to.

Demsrule86

(68,612 posts)
3. Sure they do
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 09:02 AM
Apr 2016

They voted for Secretary Clinton because they believed her and did not believe his pie in the sky nonsense. He has no way to get anything like that through a unfriendly Congress.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
11. CNN, August 2015: Why poor people still aren't voting
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:00 AM
Apr 2016

It's been 50 years since Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Voting Rights Act -- the law prohibiting racial discrimination against voters.

But there is still a voting problem in the United States: Many people who live in poverty just aren't going to the polls.

Less than half of those who made under $20,000 voted in 2012. Meanwhile, voter participation for people who live in households with incomes of more than $75,000 was much higher at 77%.

It's clear that the system is leaving many people out -- especially the poor.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/05/news/economy/poor-people-voting-rights/

Why the Voting Gap Matters
Who Votes?

After studying 30 years of data at the state level, William Franko, Nathan Kelly and Christopher Witko could not find any year in which low-income voter turnout was higher than high-income voter turnout.7 Recent research by Benjamin Page, Larry Bartels, and Martin Gilens suggests that the super-rich members of the top 1 and .1 percent turned out to vote in 2008 at a whopping 99 percent. This compares to only 49 percent turnout for citizens earning less than $10,000.8 In midterm elections, the voting gap is even more pronounced. In 2010, only 26.7 percent of citizens earning less than $10,000 voted, while 61.6 percent of those making $150,000 voted.9 Voter turnout is heavily biased towards high-income voters.
http://www.demos.org/publication/why-voting-gap-matters


It's odd that you don't know these things.....

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
19. Cause Sanders can't reach poor people with a message surrounding economic insecurity when
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:02 AM
Apr 2016

... the poor are already economically insecure?

Sanders message is meant for middle aged white males, his core supporters in diverse communities

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
43. So how did Hillary's "message" reach them?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 12:53 PM
Apr 2016

do "the Poor®", attend those $30K a plate 'fund raiser' speeches she gives on the campaign trail? Or did Wall St hold her $250K a pop speeches at inner city community centers?

 

HillareeeHillaraah

(685 posts)
26. It's odder still
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:34 AM
Apr 2016

To think that those numbers indicate overwhelming that folks can't vote rather than the more likely folks just don't get around to it.

Yes there's disenfranchisement occurring. In those percentages? Doubtful.

Voting is a responsibility that not enough people take seriously...

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
51. So 1. why arent they voting and 2. Does this mean many who support Bernie
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:29 PM
Apr 2016

are those that were not going to vote regardless if Bernie had not been running?

If so that is great news for Clinton if she ends up with the nomination.

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
42. re: "We didn't try to get their vote. We didn't campaign in the south"
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 12:51 PM
Apr 2016

Not exactly true. They tried very hard in South Carolina. But they learned that they couldn't break through Clinton's support there (and while polls show that AA voters there *did* like him once they learned about him, it was not enough to persuade them to change their vote). Once the campaign saw that they couldn't substantially change that dynamic no matter how much in the way of resources they committed to the state, they subsequently decided to primarily allocate resources to where they would likely do more good. So yeah, they did not campaign much in many of the later southern states... because they realized that it wouldn't make enough of a difference.

 

CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)
4. He doesn't talk like a 'revolution' leader anymore.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 09:11 AM
Apr 2016

It appears that even Bernie knows he's lost. Now the only question is whether or not he will get out before the hard feelings get too baked-in.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
6. Reid is pretending not to understand what a revolution is.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 09:21 AM
Apr 2016

They don't happen overnight because not everyone is on board right away.

Idiot media.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
52. Reid doesn't have to worry about paying a mortgage
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:30 PM
Apr 2016

She's not exactly a champion of the poor & working class. I wouldn't let any rich talking head on corporate TV tell me which candidate best addresses my needs.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
7. Joy Reid doesn't care about "the poor®"
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 09:33 AM
Apr 2016

Reid had a whole segment on her Sunday show on "The Poor®". A whole panel actually on "The Poor®"

They talked about "The Poor®" for probably 15 minutes without once mentioning POVERTY, or examining how poverty might play into the issue of why "The Poor®" might not be voting in the numbers of other groups.

Didn't hear a word from Reid or her guests about how "The Poor®" have to work 2 or 3 jobs, if they're lucky enough to even have a job at all, figure out how to get their children safely to and from school, put food on the table ... or any of the other numerous hardships that 'The Poor®" have to deal with that might prevent them from giving researching the Candidates 8 months in advance, going through all the hoops of making sure your registration has been properly processed, and then standing in line for hours to vote for a Dem Candidate, the same level of priority that the DNC seems to think is so 'easy peasy'.

Reid could not care less about "The Poor®" other than as a inscrutable voting block that she can spin against Sanders.

Sanders started talking about poverty in this campaign, discussing the issues of PEOPLE living in poverty and how the 1% were stealing all the productivity of the 'new economy' and creating a larger class of people in poverty ... Reid complained that Bernie was only talking about "The Poor®" and never talked about what races made up "The Poor®" ... so Bernie mentioned the races of people in poverty ... Reid complained that was equating all Blacks as being "The Poor®" ... so Bernie goes on TV and talks about how people in poverty have issues reacting to the voting processes that seem almost purposely designed to keep people in poverty from being able to vote, what does Reid do? She spends 15 minutes talking about "The Poor®" without actually talking about poverty and the people living in it ... she talks about "The Poor®" as though Bernie were blaming them, instead of talking about there issues.

I'd bet any amount of money that if Bernie were to talk about how people living in poverty had a hard time getting healthy food because large grocery chains do not open stores in neighborhood with high poverty rates, Reid would come on that same day and accuse Sanders of blaming "The Poor® for refusing to buy healthy food".

Reid should be ashamed of herself. "The Poor®" is just a word to her, a political concept that has no other purpose than to be used as a talking point against Bernie for daring to bring up their issues.

bigtree

(85,999 posts)
13. trashing another progressive?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:29 AM
Apr 2016

...that's one charming aspect of the Sanders support.

That's right, beedle, Ms. Reid has been working as a political journalist since 2000, all in anticipation and preparation for opposing the civil rights icon from Vermont.

I don't know if your effort here is actually advocacy for Sanders, or just an ad hominem, opportune attack on one of the few black political journalists on the air today. I do know that it reeks to high heaven. Par for the course for the DU Sanders support which has dragged more than a handful of progressive icons through the mud in a vain effort to prop up their dubiously revolutionary leader.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
14. What 'reeks to high heaven'
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:34 AM
Apr 2016

is having a whole segment on "The Poor®" without once mentioning a single issue related to poverty.

Not sure what the fuck the color of her skin has to to with that issue ... or are you suggesting that because she is black she is automatically a member of "the Poor®". But you can't be trying to make that inference ... the same inference that caused her head to explode when she thought Sanders made it?

bigtree

(85,999 posts)
15. your little diatribe is everything wrong with the Sanders campaign
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:49 AM
Apr 2016

...elevating this career politician above those who would hold him accountable. Pointing out that she happens to be black and progressive, and subject to your ad hominem attack is just an observation about the prevalence of similar attacks on prominent members of the black and civil rights community who dare question the senator from Vermont.

Reid rejects the phony premise about poor people out of hand. It's a specious argument on two important levels. First, there's Sanders' own declaration that poverty disproportionately affects the black community.

Next, there's the reality in the states which have already voted, that Hillary Clinton has garnered the vast majority of the black community's support in this primary, leaving Sanders with a paltry share. To claim that he would have gotten more of a share of those votes if more showed up at the polls is just sophistry.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
23. If the fact she just
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:18 AM
Apr 2016

"happens to be black and progressive" doesn't matter, why did YOU bring it up. I didn't mention it in my original post, what purpose did you have to bring it up? I totally agree that it doesn't matter. She should stand on the merits of her work as a journalist and use "journalistic integrity" as the measure of her worth as a journalist ... which she has failed IMO.

And no where did I say that if more of the Black community showed up that they would have voted for Sanders ... I said Sanders was the one talking about the issue of POVERTY not just using the term "The Poor®" as though it were just a different zip code and had no unique issues. Matter of fact I fully recognize that working to make it easier for those in poverty to have their say in the primaries would indeed help Hillary in terms of vote count (of course, once those in poverty start having their say and learn how quickly their vote is ignored in terms of actual policies addressing their issues, they will soon join the 'revolution' against the establishment that ignores them until voting time rolls around again.)

It was Reid and her ilk, not Sanders that equated race with "The Poor®" by whining that when Sanders talked about poverty he ignored the 'race factor' ... but as soon as he mentioned 'race' Reid lost her mind again.

If you were really interested in Hillary getting the nomination you would be right there demanding that the primary and GE electoral processes were changed to take into account the fact that people living in poverty have better things to do than spend a whole year figuring out the registration process and doing followups to make sure they haven't been wiped from the roles at the last minute, then spending all day in line fighting to verify their right to have their say ... then Hillary would have even more votes from "The Poor®".

Of course I would never expect you and Hillary to actually address POVERTY, that would be counterproductive to her establishment controlled Wall St. strategy, but I am really puzzled why you are so against addressing the voting process to make it easier for your own constituency "The Poor®" to vote for their "natural candidate"?

bigtree

(85,999 posts)
25. I brought it up because I'm tired of the attacks on prominent blacks
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:34 AM
Apr 2016

...who dare question Sanders.

"Reid and her ilk?"

If I thought for a moment the bullshit you're writing about Ms. Reid was some official campaign position, I'd spend time debating your nonsense.

What I'm going to do is block you (long overdue) and relegate 'beedle' to oblivion (as far as I'm concerned).

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
35. Is there a chance that, based on your profile info, you could be overly sensitive or reading into
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 12:17 PM
Apr 2016

things that are not there? Just a thought.

bigtree

(85,999 posts)
38. I'm not under any obligation to mollycoddle an off topic post
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 12:22 PM
Apr 2016

...the poster deflected poorly.

It was interesting, though, how readily the poster sought to denigrate Ms. Reid, positing that she didn't care about poor people. That poster got the response from me they deserved.

my profile:

Gender: Male
Hometown: Maryland

Response to bigtree (Reply #25)

tblue

(16,350 posts)
54. When she's right, I'll agree. When she's not, I won't
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:37 PM
Apr 2016

She's cool on some issues but not on all. Progressive is as progressive does. You don't just get a "Progressive" card and then everything you do is autimatically progressive and no one can ever speak up about it.

Stop trying to silence people. I don't care what color they are. I'm black too and I will never sell out and sure won't try to defend people when I disagree with their actions.

brush

(53,794 posts)
37. I can't understand why there was no huge emphasis by the Sanders campaign to register . . .
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 12:20 PM
Apr 2016

the poor to vote? The emphasis seemed to be on huge rallies, and were people even registering voters at the rallies, which seemed to be mostly on college campuses — hardly hangouts of the poor.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
39. I don't disagree
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 12:30 PM
Apr 2016

but in NYS he would have had to start campaigning back in Aug/Sept to get ready for the OCT deadline. Not likely to happen for a brand new anti-establishment campaign in it's first run.

Hopefully if Clinton wins this year and doesn't blow the GE (a likelihood IMO given her rallying power - for the other side) and Sanders wants to primary her because of all the broken promises and stupid wars she will drag America into, he will have a much better strategy ready for getting out the vote despite the Establishment clusterfuck set of hoops put in the way designed to prevent 'certain groups' from participating.

Bit overall, yes, Sanders needs to find a way to take his message to people in poverty without relying on the MSM to do it for him .. first off, they will not do it, they'd rather talk about anything but policies, and second, people in poverty have little time to deal with effort needed to follow a year long primary campaign ... as long as they are too busy to pay attention, the name recognition game will be their biggest deciding factor if they are somehow lucky enough to make it through the registration hell and end up at the polls.

brush

(53,794 posts)
40. I'm afraid the Sanders revolution is going to need a new headliner. Bernie will be 78 in 4 years.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 12:40 PM
Apr 2016
 

forjusticethunders

(1,151 posts)
8. Talking, not listening
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 09:52 AM
Apr 2016

No matter what one uses for excuses, it is telling that Sanders is now losing low-income people.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
9. Joy does the eye roll at anti gay bigotry so I have not watched that act for years....
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 09:54 AM
Apr 2016

Last I saw of her she was excusing some homophobic comments by some Obama official with a casual straight person's bias 'oh, we all used to say those things' and I turned her privileged mug off and never went back.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
12. Sanders is not being honest or truthful about why he's losing.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:27 AM
Apr 2016

It's either A) Those who voted against him don't really matter, or B) There's some undefined conspiracy against him, or C) Claiming - with no valid suspicion or evidence whatsoever - that the Clinton camp is cheating somehow. It's never about him, or on his responsibility.

In reality, people realize that he's a grandstanding, ineffectual phony. Good at giving speeches, and not much else.

Response to baldguy (Reply #12)

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
34. Yes, it's never "my message isn't getting to non middle aged and young white males" it's...
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 12:16 PM
Apr 2016

... always their fault

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
16. His excuse now is that he can't excite more people to the polls.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:51 AM
Apr 2016

I would say he is actually pretty accurate here. He isn't losing because more people don't vote, he is losing because he can't get more people to the polls.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
50. You know there are posters here with the bird and Sanders on it right? Jus sayin, the bird...
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:25 PM
Apr 2016

.... is an indicator or fantasizing mindset in Sanders camp

KPN

(15,646 posts)
28. Todd and Reid are just corporate shills paid
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:45 AM
Apr 2016

to spout the establishment line. Bernie isn't making excuses at all, and for anyone to say his movement isn't a revolution, wait till (1) June 8th when the primary is completed and Hillary lacks the requisite number of pledged delegates to make the convention moot, (2) the GE (when many if not most Berners will cast a protest vote if Hillary is the nominee), and (3) 2018 and 2020.

The MSM is trying to squash the Bernie movement by minimizing it and talking it down -- but the people engaged in the movement aren't even listening to the MSM. The media and the national party establishment just don't get that; meanwhile, the movement is growing and will eventually overtake and boot them from their precious positions of power..

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
31. We will see if this "revolution" is real when the midterms roll around
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:57 AM
Apr 2016

Bernie will not be President but he can use his popularity to help take back the House if he so chooses.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
36. +1, this should be its own OP... this is spot on... if Sanders revolution fizzles out its cause he..
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 12:18 PM
Apr 2016

... let it and it wasn't that important to him.

bigtree

(85,999 posts)
32. "the GE (when many if not most Berners will cast a protest vote if Hillary is the nominee"
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:59 AM
Apr 2016

...can you folks make yourselves any more insignificant to the issues you claim to care about?

I'd like for you folks to explain to us just how you accomplish the Sanders agenda by casting a 'protest vote' in the GE.

If that's not the worst appeal yet, I've not seen it. There's nothing more enabling of the republican opposition than dithering with your vote in the general election. Stop the navel-gazing and do something that will actually make a difference in that election.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
45. Could you try to be a little more condescending please?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:01 PM
Apr 2016

People did work to make a difference. They ran a campaign and supported a candidate.

Condescension is not a good trait.

Gothmog

(145,375 posts)
30. Sanders revolution has been a flop
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:47 AM
Apr 2016

The Sanders revolution has been a bust http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/04/bernie-sanders-democratic-party-new-york-primary-213829


And yet, the “revolution” that Sanders called for didn’t show up. Clinton’s 16-point New York win is simply the exclamation point. First, electorally, Sanders hasn’t been able to win any states on Clinton’s natural turf, while she picked off states like blue-collar Ohio and quintessentially liberal Massachusetts. Eleven of his 16 state wins were in low-turnout caucus states, while she has dominated well-populated primary states. He struggled to win the votes of older voters and whiffed with Southern African-Americans.
Story Continued Below

But on a more important level, Sanders has also failed to substantially change the Democratic Party at its core: its acceptance of big-dollar fundraising and incremental policy advancement. That was a tough task for Sanders, especially considering he had steered clear of the party for most of his political career until his presidential quest (prompting Hillary to remark at one point, “I’m not even sure he is a Democrat”). For all his success at the polls, Sanders’ ideologically pure campaign foundered on the predictable shoals of policy specifics and political feasibility, obstacles that a progressive populist movement will need to overcome to truly succeed.....

Another Sanders misstep was making his campaign look like a hostile takeover of the Democratic Party apparatus—a great strategy for winning left-leaning independents but not so much for the larger pool of registered Democrats.

In January, he downplayed Clinton endorsements from Planned Parenthood Action Fund, NARAL Pro-Choice America and the Human Rights Campaign as coming from “the establishment.” In a fundraiser email in support of a candidate running in a Nevada House primary, he took a gratuitous swipe at EMILY’s List, a major funder of female Democrats. And instead of working with the Democratic National Committee to raise money for a wider range of congressional candidates, the Sanders campaign attacked Hillary Clinton for doing so at a big-dollar fundraiser hosted by George Clooney.

The cost was a smooth-talking smackdown from Clooney on Sunday on NBC’s Meet The Press: “we need to take the Senate back, because we need … that fifth vote on the Supreme Court [to] overturn Citizens United and get this obscene, ridiculous amount of money out so I never have to do a fundraiser again.”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/04/bernie-sanders-democratic-party-new-york-primary-213829#ixzz46asWEZ2w
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nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
41. It's almost like a candidate
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 12:50 PM
Apr 2016

Who says she's transparent, but then won't release the transcripts of her sweetheart speeches to her owners on Wall Street.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
44. This is why the media and politics are so damn stupid
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 12:57 PM
Apr 2016

You can't discuss things without explaining things. Discussion is not parsing and explanations are not excuses or rationalizations. Screw the media blanks and the campaign political minions who use such cute little phrases to stifle actual discourse.

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