2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie should have taken my advise and pushed 50yr age for SocSec
instead of free college since automation is not producing enough jobs.
Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)Then both the young and the old are helped and mostly Americans caas a who!eis helped.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)retirement age should be 55.
But there are no jobs for the 55 yr olds. There are no jobs for the 62,63,64,65,66, and now 67 year olds. They cant' raise the age, and they know this. They'd have to kill all trade plans fast. That won't happen. Bernie's plans are paid for with taxes.
Soc. Sec. is paid by those in the workforce. You want to take out 50-67 year olds? 17 years of working people? We can't raise it one year according to the number of jobs. 50? Not enough people working, making enough money to fund Soc Sec for all 50 and older.
taught_me_patience
(5,477 posts)Do we just make up numbers like the Bernie campaign has done?
liberalmike27
(2,479 posts)IF someone can spend a billion dollars on an election, to skew government to their advantage, then we've found a great source of taxes.
Why do we worry so much about the percentage removed, instead of how much folks have AFTER taxes?
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,205 posts)It would just allow them to if they wanted. It would still be financially advantageous to continue working.
Furthermore, if we at least had a public option for healthcare and allowed people to buy in to Medicare, many 50+ folks may want to wind down and work less than 40 hours per week. I'm 59 and have been allowed to continue Medicare because I was disabled for 2 years. That allows me to be self employed or to work for smaller companies that don't offer health insurance. It saves me hundreds per month.
liberalmike27
(2,479 posts)I like the idea of a BMI (Basic Minimum Income). It pays every working age person an income suitable to live on, including rich people. Any money you earn, is on top of that.
This allows us to get rid of the Trust Fund problem, because in truth it all goes into the general fund anyway. The "Trust Fund" is just a number, around 2.5 Trillion now wasted to military interventions over the last 36 years. It gets rid of SS, and Welfare, Food Stamps, probably most of the prison population after a while, because much of crime is based on people having a financial problem of some sort. It allows folks to go back to school, perhaps in-between jobs to retrain. IF folks want to take a little vacation between jobs, or have time to reevaluate, or volunteer in-between jobs, they can.
The boost in "demand" would be tremendous.
It solves a lot of ills, if people can just tweak their minds away from the constant din of brainwashing against it.