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Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:28 PM Apr 2016

Plenty of Republicans will endorse Hillary and there's no point getting mad about it.

There are lots of relatively sane and socially liberal folks out there who would vote for a moderate Republican but are terrified by Cruz and especially Trump. Many of these folks will vote for Hillary; while Cruz or Trump might promise them lower taxes, they see the resounding success that President Obama has had in turning the economy around and see Hillary as the candidate most likely to generally continue his policies.

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Plenty of Republicans will endorse Hillary and there's no point getting mad about it. (Original Post) Nye Bevan Apr 2016 OP
The relatively sane and socially liberal Koch Bros thank you whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #1
No endorsement. Full rejection of possibility from Hillary. onehandle Apr 2016 #4
Plutocrats love plutocrats whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #7
If they want to vote for Hillary I'm not going to complain. Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #6
Funny, I see it as a symptom of the disasterous state of the Democratic Party, which I lament. whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #8
how odd, independents as votes for sanders = good, voting for hillary = bad? nt msongs Apr 2016 #29
I think it's fine if independents or republicans vote for Hillary whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #30
Those pushing this "koch endorsement" narrative, I suspect would be embarrassed for doing so ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #18
Did you actually hear what koch said? 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #9
Yeah I did, but feel free to parse it for me whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #13
Sure you did! 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #19
Haha, borrowing your common exit whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #22
Okay. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #23
Because she pretty much is one. She's a D Wing Corporatist instead of an R Wing corporatist. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #2
Yep. Lucinda Apr 2016 #3
Post after post touting Sanders possible ability to get crossover votes. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #5
Of course there's no different between a garden variety republican voter and the Koch brothers whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #12
"Garden variety republican" NCTraveler Apr 2016 #16
Good point. auntpurl Apr 2016 #14
Plenty? Methinks you are dreaming. KPN Apr 2016 #10
this is going to come down to capitalism vs theocracy/insanity La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #11
Right! It only made sense to get mad about the possibility that Repubs. would vote for Bernie. merrily Apr 2016 #15
Indies & moderate repugs bad if they vote for Bernie. Indies & moderate repugs good if they vote for jillan Apr 2016 #20
I see it as the end process nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #17
It's certainly a lot more centrist than many DUers would like. Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #25
That was part of this process nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #31
Hillary supporters asking others if we remember Reagan era history is rich with irony: Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #35
I live in Texas BigMin28 Apr 2016 #21
To what consequence? LoverOfLiberty Apr 2016 #39
Not necessarily. BigMin28 Apr 2016 #40
Some sane Republicans may vote Democratic this year. Beacool Apr 2016 #24
I mean I've always thought "sane Republican" forjusticethunders Apr 2016 #37
You should not paint ALL Republicans with the same brush rock Apr 2016 #38
They sure will. In sacks full. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #26
Ok, so now we at DU are talking about the bunch of sane republicans out there...... Sivart Apr 2016 #27
She will represent them well. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #28
Democrats have always welcomed crossover voters. procon Apr 2016 #32
Why wouldn't they when her policies coincide with theirs? Live and Learn Apr 2016 #33
That is terrific. They will replace sadoldgirl Apr 2016 #34
Republicans absolutely loathe her AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #36
Bernie followers were crowing recently about Republicans voting for him. wyldwolf Apr 2016 #41

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
4. No endorsement. Full rejection of possibility from Hillary.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:38 PM
Apr 2016

No unicorn for the 'Not Hillary' Party.

But please continue to team up with the Kochs. Please proceed.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
6. If they want to vote for Hillary I'm not going to complain.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:38 PM
Apr 2016

I see this as a symptom of the disastrous state of the Republican party, which I welcome.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
30. I think it's fine if independents or republicans vote for Hillary
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:48 PM
Apr 2016

My comments were about the Koch Bros.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
18. Those pushing this "koch endorsement" narrative, I suspect would be embarrassed for doing so ...
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:44 PM
Apr 2016

if they had actually seen the interview.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
5. Post after post touting Sanders possible ability to get crossover votes.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:38 PM
Apr 2016

But with Clinton it's just evil.

The people doing this are so transparent at this point.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
16. "Garden variety republican"
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:43 PM
Apr 2016


The only people who don't understand what Koch just did are the same group that hang on every word of HA Goodman.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
14. Good point.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:43 PM
Apr 2016

When "Independents" (who are often Moderate or even Republican-leaning) vote for Bernie, it's the MOST IMPORTANT DEMOGRAPHIC.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
11. this is going to come down to capitalism vs theocracy/insanity
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:42 PM
Apr 2016

and most sane people will pick capitalism with an expansion of workers rights over the alternative.

also the Koch's did not endorse HRC. they said she might be better than the republican choices, which given that Trump is the front runner most people would agree with.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
20. Indies & moderate repugs bad if they vote for Bernie. Indies & moderate repugs good if they vote for
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:45 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary.

Didn't you get the memo?

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
17. I see it as the end process
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:44 PM
Apr 2016

the democratic party is now a business friendly, chamber of commerce, conservative party. The realignment is complete.

Why pretend otherwise?

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
25. It's certainly a lot more centrist than many DUers would like.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:17 PM
Apr 2016

But I'm not sure that this is the culmination of a rightward move over a long period. Remember when the Congressional Democrats were happy to work with Ronald Reagan to reduce Social Security benefits?

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
31. That was part of this process
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:50 PM
Apr 2016

But it is what it is. And the question is how much more damage we can do to the planet in the name of profit? We might be at the point of no return anyway

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
35. Hillary supporters asking others if we remember Reagan era history is rich with irony:
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:45 PM
Apr 2016

" It may be hard for your viewers to remember how difficult it was for people to talk about HIV/AIDS back in the 1980s and because of both president and Mrs. Reagan — in particular Mrs. Reagan — we started a national conversation, when before nobody would talk about it, nobody wanted to do anything about it, and that too is something I really appreciate with her very effective low-key advocacy. It penetrated the public conscience and people began to say, hey, we have to do something about this too."---Hillary Clinton, inexplicably, March 2016.


So your own candidate has no memory at all of the Reagan era. None. Not that her supporters care about that. They are made up of talking points and greed.

BigMin28

(1,178 posts)
21. I live in Texas
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:46 PM
Apr 2016

In one of the reddest counties. I know a lot of Republicans. Work with them, a lot are neighbors, and some in my own family. One thing I can tell you without exception is they despise Hillary and will take any opportunity to vote against her. Even if that means a vote for Trump.

LoverOfLiberty

(1,438 posts)
39. To what consequence?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:35 PM
Apr 2016

If its one of the reddist counties in Texas, of course they will vote for the Republican. Against Sanders as well, to be sure.

BigMin28

(1,178 posts)
40. Not necessarily.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 08:28 PM
Apr 2016

I have spoken to several that didn't care for any of the candidates, and we're thinking of not voting. But if Hillary is the nominee, they all said they would vote to vote against her. Two co workers actually like Bernie.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
24. Some sane Republicans may vote Democratic this year.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:50 PM
Apr 2016

I have read that behind the scenes there are some establishment folks who think that Trump is not fit to be president. It's not all about politics, they truly fear that the man would be a disaster and would rather lose this election cycle than see him in the WH. They also fear that he would damage the party's brand for years to come.

 

forjusticethunders

(1,151 posts)
37. I mean I've always thought "sane Republican"
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:53 PM
Apr 2016

was a contradiction in terms.

Don't mind me though I've only followed politics since the Bush years.

rock

(13,218 posts)
38. You should not paint ALL Republicans with the same brush
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:01 PM
Apr 2016

And for that matter, you should be cautious in painting any group with the same brush. Welcome to DU! Stay a while.

 

Sivart

(325 posts)
27. Ok, so now we at DU are talking about the bunch of sane republicans out there......
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:33 PM
Apr 2016

You know....the ones that are digging what Obama has been doing with the economy etc., and want to see Clinton continue down Obama's path......Republicans......


Yep. You keep telling yourself that.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
28. She will represent them well.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:41 PM
Apr 2016

I am not mad. She is a right-leaning centrist. Republicans should embrace her.

procon

(15,805 posts)
32. Democrats have always welcomed crossover voters.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:55 PM
Apr 2016

Democrats have open primaries that attract Republican voters for a varies of reasons. Maybe they just don't like the current GOP candidates, some will cast a protest vote and go with the Dems. There will be moderate Republicans that will find sane Democratic candidates to be more acceptable than what's on the GOP ticket. And there also are Republican women who think that a woman president will be good for the country.


Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
33. Why wouldn't they when her policies coincide with theirs?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:59 PM
Apr 2016

The confusing part is why any of them dislike her.

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