2016 Postmortem

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts) Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:30 PM Apr 2016

Pennsylvania Shock Poll- Clinton 61% Sanders 33% *

Hillary Clinton’s image has improved a net +4% (77%/22%; 4/2: 75%/24%) while Bernie Sanders’ has worsened a net -5% (68%/29%, 4/2: 71%/27%). Clinton’s intensity of favorability has strengthened among Moderates (48% very favorable, 4/2: 38%). Sanders’ image is weaker among Very Liberals (51% very favorable, 4/2: 64%).

On the ballot, Clinton’s support has grown 6%, while Sanders’ remains stagnant (61-33%, 4/2: 55-33%). Clinton has expanded upon leads among Moderates (65-28%, 4/2: 58-28%) and Somewhat Liberals (65-32%, 4/2: 60-31%) and has taken the lead among Very Liberals (50-44%, 4/2: 45-51%).

http://harperpolling.com/polls/pennsylvania-democratic-primary-poll--4-21-23#ballot

*Likely an outlier but shocking nonetheless.

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Pennsylvania Shock Poll- Clinton 61% Sanders 33% * (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 OP

Tomorrow is going to be another leftynyc Apr 2016 #1

Every day is a good day Meteor Man Apr 2016 #3

mmmmm cookies Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #20

This strategy reminds me of Giuliani in 2008. Beacool Apr 2016 #9

Smells like an outlier... CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #2

Michigan was an open primary. bullimiami Apr 2016 #13

Remember when Hillary said she was staying in because someone might murder Obama? QC Apr 2016 #16

................................................. Armstead Apr 2016 #21

Hoooly crap. auntpurl Apr 2016 #4

One can dream, but yea, it looks like a outlier Iliyah Apr 2016 #5

lol - I see your name, I simply EXPECT pro-Clinton propaganda. closeupready Apr 2016 #6

"What's the shock?" The poll. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #7

And bless your heart! closeupready Apr 2016 #8

We shouldn't let this intramural battle make us enemies. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #11

Not at all. This is a message board, nothing more. Seriously is not closeupready Apr 2016 #14

Although I have no doubt that she will win PA, this poll is probably an outlier. Beacool Apr 2016 #10

Bernie was done in March. Now its just overkill. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #12

LOL - you made my day! Iliyah Apr 2016 #15

She is *NOT* going to win PA by a larger margin... Herman4747 Apr 2016 #17

But she will win handily, so "oh well." Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #22

And you, just like both of the people below, will be pleased Herman4747 Apr 2016 #25

Massive! DCBob Apr 2016 #18

Whaaaaa? NurseJackie Apr 2016 #19

I don't have a link but a new ARG poll has Clinton up 20%. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #23

Holy smokes. It may not be a real outlier then. Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #26

Wow! And thats even *before the irregularities. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #24

Uh oh tonyt53 Apr 2016 #27

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)

1. Tomorrow is going to be another

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:32 PM

Apr 2016

tough say for Bernie and his supporters who are all (for some odd reason) relying on California to take him over the top. Odd because it's another proportional state and he's never going to make up the pledged delegate deficit he's in right now.

Meteor Man

(385 posts)

3. Every day is a good day

Reply to leftynyc (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:39 PM

Apr 2016

to feel The Bern!

Bernie is not The Bern. The Bern is a movement. The Bern scoffs at defeat. The Bern will never die, because The Bern feeds on corruption. The Bern will consume American political corruption.

Maru Kitteh

(28,341 posts)

20. mmmmm cookies

Reply to Meteor Man (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:35 PM

Apr 2016

Beacool

(30,250 posts)

9. This strategy reminds me of Giuliani in 2008.

Reply to leftynyc (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:44 PM

Apr 2016

He was relying on FL to carry him over. We all know how that went........

CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)

2. Smells like an outlier...

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:34 PM

Apr 2016

but the sum total is that there's almost no chance an upset happens.

That leads to a question: if we're 3/4 of the way through the process, and the only big, diverse state Bernie has won is Michigan, what is his rationale for drawing this thing out when he can't win?

bullimiami

(13,099 posts)

13. Michigan was an open primary.

Reply to CrowCityDem (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:48 PM

Apr 2016

I don't get open primaries. Why have parties if they don't decide their own nominees.

QC

(26,371 posts)

16. Remember when Hillary said she was staying in because someone might murder Obama?

Reply to CrowCityDem (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:52 PM

Apr 2016

That was really classy, wasn't it?

My guess is that he's staying in to have some influence at the convention and keep his supporters motivated. And if HRC is as inevitable as her superfanz say, then what's the harm?

Armstead

(47,803 posts)

21. .................................................

Reply to CrowCityDem (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:38 PM

Apr 2016

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511828592

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)

4. Hoooly crap.

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:41 PM

Apr 2016

I don't expect those numbers to hold, but it does seem PA is shaping up to be VERY good for Hillary.

I've said so all along! She beat Obama in 2008 in PA even with Obama crushing her in Philly. With no split in the urban vote this time, it should be a very strong state for her.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)

5. One can dream, but yea, it looks like a outlier

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:43 PM

Apr 2016

closeupready

(29,503 posts)

6. lol - I see your name, I simply EXPECT pro-Clinton propaganda.

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:43 PM

Apr 2016

What's the shock???

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)

7. "What's the shock?" The poll.

Reply to closeupready (Reply #6)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:43 PM

Apr 2016

Have a lovely week.

closeupready

(29,503 posts)

8. And bless your heart!

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #7)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:44 PM

Apr 2016

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)

11. We shouldn't let this intramural battle make us enemies.

Reply to closeupready (Reply #8)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:46 PM

Apr 2016

I am going to see Elvis and Nixon sometime this week. It should be good.

closeupready

(29,503 posts)

14. Not at all. This is a message board, nothing more. Seriously is not

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #11)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:49 PM

Apr 2016

how I take anything here anymore. Do your thing with my sincere blessings.

Heck, I've begun to think of this place less as "Democratic Underground" and more as "Dramaqueens Underground" so why care what I think...

Beacool

(30,250 posts)

10. Although I have no doubt that she will win PA, this poll is probably an outlier.

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:46 PM

Apr 2016

The margins are way too favorable.

LexVegas

(6,075 posts)

12. Bernie was done in March. Now its just overkill. nt

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:48 PM

Apr 2016

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)

15. LOL - you made my day!

Reply to LexVegas (Reply #12)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:50 PM

Apr 2016

Herman4747

(1,825 posts)

17. She is *NOT* going to win PA by a larger margin...

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:52 PM

Apr 2016

...than she won New York!!

You need to seek out better polls!

Maru Kitteh

(28,341 posts)

22. But she will win handily, so "oh well."

Reply to Herman4747 (Reply #17)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:39 PM

Apr 2016

The margin of the drubbing will be known soon enough.

Herman4747

(1,825 posts)

25. And you, just like both of the people below, will be pleased

Reply to Maru Kitteh (Reply #22)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:37 PM

Apr 2016

Last night, Clinton once again praised a man with a lot of blood on his hands.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)

18. Massive!

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:53 PM

Apr 2016

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)

19. Whaaaaa?

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:57 PM

Apr 2016

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)

23. I don't have a link but a new ARG poll has Clinton up 20%.

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:40 PM

Apr 2016

Maru Kitteh

(28,341 posts)

26. Holy smokes. It may not be a real outlier then.

Reply to hrmjustin (Reply #23)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:50 PM

Apr 2016

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)

24. Wow! And thats even *before the irregularities. nt

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:46 PM

Apr 2016

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)

27. Uh oh

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 04:16 PM

Apr 2016

Bernie-ites will never believe it. They still thin he was cheated out of NY. The bad part is, the area those 126,000 voters were purged - by a Republican - is an area that HRC won by 65%. It would have been a lot worse for Bernie and she would have picked up another delegate.

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