2016 Postmortem

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts) Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:38 PM Apr 2016

The Shared Secret Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump Don’t Want You to Know

"A two-story building in Delaware that Fortune 500 companies use to exploit tax loopholes is also used by Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump."

http://usuncut.com/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-delaware/

(sorry if a dupe!)

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The Shared Secret Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump Don’t Want You to Know (Original Post) iamthebandfanman Apr 2016 OP

Reliable source tonyt53 Apr 2016 #1

US Uncut is fine but anything critical of Hillary pinebox Apr 2016 #3

+1000 Cobalt Violet Apr 2016 #12

Speaking of which, WILL SKINNER CALL IT AFTER TOMORROW? Hortensis Apr 2016 #18

um no, we will still be in a primary tomorrow. Cobalt Violet Apr 2016 #20

Well, then, thanks for ending the suspense. Hortensis Apr 2016 #21

Ok, how about The Guardian? Electric Monk Apr 2016 #4

Ironic coming from someone with fewer than 10 posts RufusTFirefly Apr 2016 #5

Give him/her a break nichomachus Apr 2016 #7

Yes, don't you know? The only reliable source nichomachus Apr 2016 #6

. Dragonfli Apr 2016 #10

Are you aware that they have 5 different LLC's in Delaware Aerows Apr 2016 #13

Here's a secret you may not know.. JaneyVee Apr 2016 #2

Yeah, the only reliable news source is Blue Nation Review!! jeff47 Apr 2016 #9

This Delaware Address Is Home to 200,000 Shell Companies—Including Hillary Clinton’s Octafish Apr 2016 #8

Time and Relative Dimension in Space (How can they cram so many businesses into one tiny place) Dragonfli Apr 2016 #11

Okay - that was downright funny Aerows Apr 2016 #15

Dr. Howmuch Octafish Apr 2016 #16

They are play-pretending that Aerows Apr 2016 #14

I like how the Department of Just-Us and Corporate McPravda scrambled into inaction. Octafish Apr 2016 #17

Bookmarking. I wonder... nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #19

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)

1. Reliable source

Reply to iamthebandfanman (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:41 PM

Apr 2016

Try getting your information from a reliable unbiased source the next time. Bernie-ites are pretty gullible people.

pinebox

(5,761 posts)

3. US Uncut is fine but anything critical of Hillary

Reply to tonyt53 (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:42 PM

Apr 2016

is deemed as unreliable by her supporters.
You call us gulliable yet you support the candidate who has changed positions as quickly as the second hand?
#HillarySupporterLogic

Cobalt Violet

(9,905 posts)

12. +1000

Reply to pinebox (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:50 PM

Apr 2016

they never see their own hypocrisy.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)

18. Speaking of which, WILL SKINNER CALL IT AFTER TOMORROW?

Reply to Cobalt Violet (Reply #12)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:20 PM

Apr 2016

Enough of this shabby business.

Cobalt Violet

(9,905 posts)

20. um no, we will still be in a primary tomorrow.

Reply to Hortensis (Reply #18)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:38 PM

Apr 2016

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)

21. Well, then, thanks for ending the suspense.

Reply to Cobalt Violet (Reply #20)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:45 PM

Apr 2016

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)

4. Ok, how about The Guardian?

Reply to tonyt53 (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:49 PM

Apr 2016

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/apr/25/delaware-tax-loophole-1209-north-orange-trump-clinton

Trump and Clinton share Delaware tax 'loophole' address with 285,000 firms

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)

5. Ironic coming from someone with fewer than 10 posts

Reply to tonyt53 (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:50 PM

Apr 2016

The original source is the Guardian, and the reporter, Rupert Neate, was shortlisted for two major British journalism awards.

Brock needs to pay his staff more.

Welcome to DU!
I hope you're able to overcome your inauspicious debut.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)

7. Give him/her a break

Reply to RufusTFirefly (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:54 PM

Apr 2016

They've only been here for a couple of days. Although they do have Camp Weathervane's talking points down pretty well. Must have been studying.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)

6. Yes, don't you know? The only reliable source

Reply to tonyt53 (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:53 PM

Apr 2016

are press releases from Camp Weathervane. And please use the latest one. They are not responsible for what Mrs. Clinton said yesterday -- never mind a month ago.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)

10. .

Reply to tonyt53 (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:37 PM

Apr 2016

Aerows

(39,961 posts)

13. Are you aware that they have 5 different LLC's in Delaware

Reply to tonyt53 (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:58 PM

Apr 2016

or just think everybody is unaware of that fact?

I don't have time to send links, so don't ask, because there will be so damn many of them confirming that information.

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)

2. Here's a secret you may not know..

Reply to iamthebandfanman (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:42 PM

Apr 2016

USUncut is fake news and propaganda. http://www.buzzfeed.com/randomthoughtsbahahaha/has-us-uncut-abandoned-journalistic-integrity-cgw8

jeff47

(26,549 posts)

9. Yeah, the only reliable news source is Blue Nation Review!!

Reply to JaneyVee (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 04:42 PM

Apr 2016

Btw, if you have trouble with this story, you also have trouble with The Guardian.
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/apr/25/delaware-tax-loophole-1209-north-orange-trump-clinton

Octafish

(55,745 posts)

8. This Delaware Address Is Home to 200,000 Shell Companies—Including Hillary Clinton’s

Reply to iamthebandfanman (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:59 PM

Apr 2016

1209 North Orange Street, Wilmington, DE, 19801.

This Delaware Address Is Home to 200,000 Shell Companies—Including Hillary Clinton’s

In wake of ‘Panama Papers’ scandal, renewed interest in tax avoidance efforts

BY: Alana Goodman
FreeBacon, April 11, 2016 5:00 am

EXCERPT...

The Clinton campaign declined to comment on why the Clintons, who live in New York and have no evident residential ties to Delaware, set up companies in the state. But the presidential candidate isn’t alone. Experts say Delaware is the most popular place to register a company in the United States, due in part to its established system of business case law and tax incentives for intellectual property and real estate holdings.

SNIP...

Hillary Clinton has promised to crack down on tax havens on the campaign trail. Referring to the Panama Papers last Wednesday, Clinton condemned “outrageous tax havens and loopholes that super-rich people across the world are exploiting in Panama and elsewhere.”

The Clinton Foundation also has three shell companies in Delaware, according to its amended financial disclosures released last year.

One is the Acceso Fund, LLC, which was registered by the Corporation Trust Company at 1209 North Orange Street in 2009. The Clinton Foundation has used the company to channel money to its Colombia-based private equity fund, Fondo Acceso.

The private equity fund, which is run out of the Clinton Foundation’s Bogota office, has invested in telecom and food processing companies in Colombia, the Free Beacon reported last November.

Another Clinton Foundation company, Acceso Worldwide Fund, Inc., was registered in 2013 by the Corporation Services Company, located in Wilmington, Delaware.

A third company, the Haiti Development Fund, LLC, was registered in 2010 by National Corporate Research, Ltd, located in Dover.

CONTINUED...

http://freebeacon.com/issues/delaware-address-home-200000-shell-companies-including-hillary-clintons/

How can they cram so many businesses into one tiny place? It seems like magic. While I don't understand the process, I believe it's like what they do it to the nation's wealth and money: cram what takes a nation of millions of workers to produce into the pockets of a few thousand connected cronies.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)

11. Time and Relative Dimension in Space (How can they cram so many businesses into one tiny place)

Reply to Octafish (Reply #8)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:48 PM

Apr 2016

An example of exterior dimensions with a design using such tech
as compared to just a portion of it's interior dimensions pictured below.

Aerows

(39,961 posts)

15. Okay - that was downright funny

Reply to Dragonfli (Reply #11)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:05 PM

Apr 2016

as hell.

You continue to impress me

You also almost caught me for half a second because I was about to blurt out "well how big are the people" but then I caught on to the Lego Tardis.

Well done, Dragonfli.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)

16. Dr. Howmuch

Reply to Dragonfli (Reply #11)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:12 PM

Apr 2016

TARDI$ = Total Awards Really Demand Instant Stashing or Cash-n-Carry Only.

What makes the Clintons different than most business tycoons, many of whom are featured on the Forbes World’s Billionaires list, is that they have made their fortune in straight cash, not equity gains. The people featured on our billionaires list are worth far more than the Clintons, but the vast majority of their wealth is wrapped up in their ownership of various companies. Many of the billionaires on our list take in less cash each year than the Clintons. Bill and Hillary’s liquidity gives them a war chest to employ during political campaigns. In 2008, Hillary loaned her campaign $13.2 million. She has never disclosed paying herself back.

It is unclear exactly what the Clintons have done with the rest of the money they have made. Layering years of disclosure documents on top of annual tax returns, Forbes estimates that the Clintons are worth a combined $45 million. They spent $95 million on taxes, their two houses cost a combined $5 million, and they gave $22 million to charity from 2001-14, according to historical tax returns and property records. But as Forbes outlined in a separate story last month, that leaves $50 million missing.

“That’s kind of strange,” said Joe Biden’s accountant, Walter Deyhle. “You have to report all of your assets. You have to report assets that are owned by your spouse.”

One thing that is clear: The Clintons no longer have to worry if they can afford that multimillion-dollar house in Washington, D.C., or really anything else.

SOURCE: http://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2015/10/13/how-the-clintons-made-more-than-230-million-after-leaving-the-white-house/2/#337a227c4ddd

Lot more goes on than meets the eye, thanks to shell companies.

Aerows

(39,961 posts)

14. They are play-pretending that

Reply to Octafish (Reply #8)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:01 PM

Apr 2016

no one is aware of that fact, and that the Panama Papers have leaked. It is hard to say if it will influence the Primary and election, but only a fool would ignore the possibility.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)

17. I like how the Department of Just-Us and Corporate McPravda scrambled into inaction.

Reply to Aerows (Reply #14)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:16 PM

Apr 2016

Which shows corrupt nature of the revolving door in Wall Street-on-the-Potomac and the national news media monopoly.

When they won't report or prosecute crimes, it tells me they're complicit.

I'd call it a conspiracy, but since no one goes to jail, I got to call it fascism.

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)

19. Bookmarking. I wonder... nt

Reply to iamthebandfanman (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:29 PM

Apr 2016

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