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Mapping out the purge. (Original Post) hrmjustin Apr 2016 OP
So does that suddenly make it ok that it happened? Svafa Apr 2016 #1
hrmjustin has been following this closely and reporting what he has found since it happened. Squinch Apr 2016 #3
Sorry, I've been gone (ill) for a few weeks, so I didn't notice. Thanks for the clarification. Svafa Apr 2016 #4
How old were the voters? nt artislife Apr 2016 #15
Why are you asking me this question? Squinch Apr 2016 #33
No it's not okay. It needs to be taken seriously and the situation must be remedied. Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #7
we are all concerned. we also are tired of attempts to invalidate Hillary wins MariaThinks Apr 2016 #26
NEVER Okay lostnfound Apr 2016 #29
hrmjustin, this is good information. Thank you! Squinch Apr 2016 #2
So poor people were excluded as always Baobab Apr 2016 #5
Honestly Justin, I don't care if both, none or either did it or benefit from it. Marrah_G Apr 2016 #6
And here, I thought this was about you guys measuring the drapes for the post-Sanders DU Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #8
No. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #11
Shit, man, it was a joke. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #13
I know. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #18
That was my first thought, too artislife Apr 2016 #17
It will likely be ignored, but it is good to have the facts. Lucinda Apr 2016 #9
Support conducting the primaries again egalitegirl Apr 2016 #10
. Squinch Apr 2016 #34
false equivalency. n/t nolawarlock Apr 2016 #35
If there were 236K less voters, many of which were purged how would you know if it was jillan Apr 2016 #12
The results and demographics of the neighborhood. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #16
Thanks for these links. But your analysis is a bit suspect. Wilms Apr 2016 #22
Greenpoint is light purple. Williamsburg is dark purple but Hillary did well there because of the hrmjustin Apr 2016 #24
I see that. East Billburg is another story. Wilms Apr 2016 #28
Oh no doubt Sanders was hurt in that area but if you look at the other dark purple in north hrmjustin Apr 2016 #30
A precinct level look would move us toward greater certainty. Wilms Apr 2016 #31
That's interesting, thanks for bringing the information Fumesucker Apr 2016 #14
Thanks for posting this Dem2 Apr 2016 #19
much like in AZ's maricopa county issues. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #20
You did great research here, justin. sheshe2 Apr 2016 #21
So Hillary would have received more vote without sufrommich Apr 2016 #23
kicking. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #25
K&R ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #27
I don't care who anybody votes for Aerows Apr 2016 #32
it's still possible they were Bernie supporters even though they are African Americans DebDoo Apr 2016 #36
That is a pipe dream. Anyone who knows Brookly politics can see from this plot against Sanders hrmjustin Apr 2016 #37

Svafa

(594 posts)
1. So does that suddenly make it ok that it happened?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:16 PM
Apr 2016

This isn't about partisan politics, all Democrats should be deeply concerned that anyone was purged from the system and not allowed to vote.

Squinch

(50,957 posts)
3. hrmjustin has been following this closely and reporting what he has found since it happened.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:19 PM
Apr 2016

Unlike others who have simply complained, he has actually sought the relevant information, and has been keeping us apprised of new information as it comes out.

I think if you had been paying attention you would realize he was concerned from the beginning.

Maru Kitteh

(28,341 posts)
7. No it's not okay. It needs to be taken seriously and the situation must be remedied.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:32 PM
Apr 2016

But this delusional fantasy some have that somehow every vote that was disenfranchised belonged to Sanders is child-like and not supported by evidence. That is what is being addressed here I believe.

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
26. we are all concerned. we also are tired of attempts to invalidate Hillary wins
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:31 PM
Apr 2016

what would Bernie supporters say if he had won?

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
6. Honestly Justin, I don't care if both, none or either did it or benefit from it.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:30 PM
Apr 2016

It has to stop. Our votes need to be counted correctly. The public must have confidence in that,

When I see people brushing this off as no big deal it drives me nuts.

 

egalitegirl

(362 posts)
10. Support conducting the primaries again
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:42 PM
Apr 2016

If this is true, anyone who does not accept conducting the primaries again is against minorities.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
12. If there were 236K less voters, many of which were purged how would you know if it was
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:49 PM
Apr 2016

a Clinton neighborhood or a Sanders neighborhood?

If 139K voters were purged in Brooklyn, for example, you do not know if that is a Bernie neighborhood or Hillary neighborhood if not everyone who was registered was able to vote.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
16. The results and demographics of the neighborhood.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:53 PM
Apr 2016

Almost all of the dark purple on that map are neighborhoods with large amounts of people of color. They voted heavily for Clinton in NY.


If you look at the map you can click on the neighborhood and it gives you the numbers of that area.

Just looking at that map tells me this was not a plot against Sanders. I think it was on purpose but I think it was not only about the presidential race.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
22. Thanks for these links. But your analysis is a bit suspect.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:10 PM
Apr 2016

The dark purple on the purge map (heavily purged) corresponds with the green on the vote map (Sanders) when you look at the patterns in the Greenpoint/Williamsburg/etc portion, vs. over in Brooklyn hts.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
24. Greenpoint is light purple. Williamsburg is dark purple but Hillary did well there because of the
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:14 PM
Apr 2016

Hasidic vote.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
28. I see that. East Billburg is another story.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:49 PM
Apr 2016

And as pointed out above the two shadings tell only so much. Precinct level analysis might show something.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
30. Oh no doubt Sanders was hurt in that area but if you look at the other dark purple in north
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:54 PM
Apr 2016

Brooklyn those are heavy African American neighborhoods.

The point I am trying to make is the map shows it is was not a plot against Sanders.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
31. A precinct level look would move us toward greater certainty.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:08 PM
Apr 2016

Without it, and possibly some greater insight into what was going on at the BoE, it's conjecture.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
14. That's interesting, thanks for bringing the information
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:51 PM
Apr 2016

This sort of thing shouldn't be happening in any neighborhood.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
19. Thanks for posting this
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:55 PM
Apr 2016

I had heard that those particular neighborhoods had been targeted, thanks for showing breakdown verifying what I had heard.

sheshe2

(83,815 posts)
21. You did great research here, justin.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:07 PM
Apr 2016

Mapping out the purge of black and Hispanic voters, the very people that need their voices heard.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
23. So Hillary would have received more vote without
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:10 PM
Apr 2016

republican dirty tricks. You know,those dirty tricks Sanders supporters blamed on the Clinton campaign.


Good work,justin.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
32. I don't care who anybody votes for
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:10 PM
Apr 2016

their votes should count!

If you want to vote for the devil himself, it should be tallied.

We can't afford this in November.

DebDoo

(319 posts)
36. it's still possible they were Bernie supporters even though they are African Americans
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:30 PM
Apr 2016

What better to keep your stats consistent - deny the voters that throw your demographics off.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
37. That is a pipe dream. Anyone who knows Brookly politics can see from this plot against Sanders
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:34 PM
Apr 2016

meme is a pipe dream.

Don't get me wrong this was done on purpose and people need to go to jail but this was not a plot against Sanders.

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