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kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:12 PM Apr 2016

A Vermont super delegate switches his support from Bernie to Hillary.

Excerpt: I have been a proud Vermonter my whole life. Since the beginning of Bernie Sanders campaign for President and well before, I have been an outspoken advocate for him in my community. However, it is clear to me that Bernie Sanders will unfortunately not go on to capture our party’s nomination.

Our country can now go in two opposite directions when it comes to marriage equality and so many other human rights issues. We can go forward or we can go back. I am slated to be married to the love of my life next year, and I cannot imagine a world without that legal right. Actually, I can, and that’s why it is so imperative that we coalesce behind our party’s choice, Hillary Rodham Clinton....

I’ve heard Hillary Clinton affirm the importance of the LGBT community, of women, of minorities, of Spanish-speakers, of civil rights, of her reluctance to use military force aboard, and so many more issues my generation holds dear. I cannot afford a Republican presidency, we cannot afford to go back. I refuse to go back. Stand with me friends as we press forward for a better America with Hillary Clinton. I have endorsed Hillary Clinton for President tonight, and I urge you to do the same!

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A Vermont super delegate switches his support from Bernie to Hillary. (Original Post) kstewart33 Apr 2016 OP
Que the torches and pitchforks....nt pkdu Apr 2016 #1
I guess there's no problem tracing this poster's Sanders creds. LAS14 Apr 2016 #2
Well, he's an asshole. artislife Apr 2016 #13
He is right Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #19
Forget about it.nt artislife Apr 2016 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #29
His job is not to follow his voters Travis_0004 Apr 2016 #27
Bernie flipping superdelegates...to Hillary. JaneyVee Apr 2016 #3
Wow... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #4
That's some funny stuff right there. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #11
... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #12
In case you don't remember Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #21
Hence my point about '68 convention... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #30
If Hillary comes to the convention with one more pledged delegate than Bernie has... kstewart33 Apr 2016 #25
Clearly something will occur... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #28
I did not know that. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #33
The will of the people is being felt in the Democratic Party. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #24
Survival, common sense. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #5
I thought we agreed they'd vote with their state Skink Apr 2016 #6
A Vermont super delegate switches his support from Bernie to Hillary. LenaBaby61 Apr 2016 #7
How do you know he's a Super Delegate? NT Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #8
He is not included on the superdelegate list. Another bogus story. Skwmom Apr 2016 #9
Exactly. ReallyIAmAnOptimist Apr 2016 #10
Does that list include the Lobbyist purchased superdelegates? /nt Dragonfli Apr 2016 #20
Nice! Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #14
Interesting that his facebook info says he was a Republican, no specific mention of Bernie Sanders Skwmom Apr 2016 #15
Does it say which lobbying group this person works for? /nt Dragonfli Apr 2016 #18
Why wouldnt all supers go with the nominee... workinclasszero Apr 2016 #16
I wonder how much money this person held out for before selling the Super vote? Dragonfli Apr 2016 #17
He's not a super delegate,he's a delegate sufrommich Apr 2016 #22
right enid602 Apr 2016 #31
Yea, him. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #26
Sorry, a super delegate from which country, which party and which year? beedle Apr 2016 #32

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
2. I guess there's no problem tracing this poster's Sanders creds.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:14 PM
Apr 2016

And I hope this coming-together message spreads and spreads.

Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #19)

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
27. His job is not to follow his voters
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:59 PM
Apr 2016

If thats what you want eliminate the super deligates (which I would support).

But he is free to vote how he wants.

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
4. Wow...
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:20 PM
Apr 2016

HRC supporters have clearly stated over and over SDs won't change their 'pledge', oh wait... their 'vote', well until they actually vote at the convention....

SDs will make for great comedy as the convention gets closer and closer and neither HRC and Bernie will have the totals needed before the convention and when SDs can actually vote...

Let's just day the 'power of the people' will clearly be felt at this convention... remember '68? I do!

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
12. ...
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:37 PM
Apr 2016

HRC and her supporters know this to be true, it's the unspoken truth that's pushing them to press MSM, Bernie and his supporters to stop it, and come to heel

The math is what the math is based upon current projections and totals, HRC can only 'win' with the SDs in tow, without them she won't meet the total needed before the convention

Demsrule86

(68,613 posts)
21. In case you don't remember
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:00 PM
Apr 2016

In 08, the supers put Obama over the top...they always vote for the candidate with the most delegates. We have proportional voting...we would have contested every year without some such system.

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
30. Hence my point about '68 convention...
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 08:05 PM
Apr 2016

This convention will put the SDs into the spotlight like never before since they become an entity when they were first created and why they were created...

They were created to prevent another Jimmy Carter.... so do we have another 'Jimmy Carter' moment, movement going on here?

With HRC clearly unable to capture the required delegates before the convention that will leave this to all play out at convention and I bet HRC and her supporters are very scared / concerned about that, you can see it in all these OPs floating around GD-P and in HRC group

I 'do remember', but I also 'remember' so much more of history beyond '08, do you?

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
25. If Hillary comes to the convention with one more pledged delegate than Bernie has...
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:51 PM
Apr 2016

The supers will vote for her, big time.

There's no question that Hillary will have the lead in the public vote. It's the pledged delegate count that's worth watching.

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
28. Clearly something will occur...
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 08:00 PM
Apr 2016

at convention you and I both know that HRC won't have the needed amount of delegates to win

So that leaves the SDs, SDs PLEDGED before a single vote was cast in the primary, why?

Before you get to answering that consider this... why did the voting public surge to Bernie who started at 3% and whom most if not the entirety of HRC supporters dubbed a 'fringe candidate'

So.... there is a 'question that Hillary' will need to address at convention and that question is Bernie

His platform and his candidacy will merit more than enough to cause (fill in the blank) at convention...

I look forward to that debate at convention, so back to that 'question'.. do you look forward to convention when HRC won't have enough delegates to win outright?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
24. The will of the people is being felt in the Democratic Party.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:49 PM
Apr 2016

His change of position is a direct reflection of that.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
15. Interesting that his facebook info says he was a Republican, no specific mention of Bernie Sanders
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:46 PM
Apr 2016

Christopher Nikhil Bowen is an activist and blogger. He was born in Calcutta, India December 2, 1987.

He attended public schools K-12 in Jericho, Vermont, where he was raised. Chris is the oldest of 5 children. The family is unique in that all the children are ethnic minorities, and have been adopted. Chris was accepted into Vermont’s Legislative Page program when he was in the eighth grade, and served out his appointment in the states capital of Montpelier. While in high school, he served on the student council for 3 years; his senior year he sat on the Mount Mansfield Union High School, school board. Chris fought against mandatory ‘advisory’ meetings in the mornings, and fought against installing security cameras throughout the school yard as they would intrude on students personal space. The security camera resolution was defeated.

Chris was accepted at Marymount University in Arlington, Virginia. He served on the Student Government Association (SGA) all 4 years. He was the Vice President of the organization his junior year, and student body president in his senior year. Bowen became a prominent Ron Paul supporter in 2007, and volunteered at the campaign HQ in Arlington, Virginia for the 2008 Republican Presidential primary campaign. He was a College Republicans member for 4 years, being the Vice President for his final 2 years. His libertarian nature was well-known throughout the campus, and in an act of defiance, as student body president, he even signed on to the ‘Get Real Initiate‘, even when his much more conservative senate on the southern Catholic campus voiced extreme reservations, as did the university president. Chris, and his superior, College Republicans President Ryan Hammond both refused to offer any help on behalf of Republican Presidential candidate John McCain after he selected Sarah Palin to be his running-mate in the 2008 elections.

In 2009, he was able to study at Institut Catholique de Paris for 5 months, where all but one of his courses was taught in French. He came back to the states and worked as a legislative intern for United States Senator Bernard Sanders (I-VT) in Washington, D.C. in 2010 for his final semester at Marymount University. He graduated in 2010 with a BA in Politics, minor in History, and also as a member of the Pi Sigma Alpha Political Science Honor Society.

Chris then accepted an offer to study at Oxford University (Trinity College) where he conducted his post-baccalaureate research on British Liberalism and the work of J.R.R Tolkien over the course of the Trinity term.

Chris went on to California State University, Los Angeles, where he earned his MA degree in Political Science, his concentration was Political Theory. He was an active member in the Associated Students Inc. (A.S.I.) during his years at the university, and was a voting member of the A.S.I. Board of Directors. Chris never voted in favor of the A.S.I. budget, as he argued that the fee was being immorally collected against the will of the students. He advocated an opt-in plan, where students could decide whether they wanted to become a member of A.S.I and enjoy the benefits of the organization, or they could not become a member and not be forced to pay dues. He was also a staunch advocate against the newly imposed ‘Student Success Fees‘ which have been implemented in many California State Universities to close the budget gap.

Chris was awarded the James Galbraith Fellowship by the Pat Brown Institute in his second year of graduate work. He was placed in the State Senate Republican Caucus Leader Bob Huff’s district office. As a fellow, he worked with the senator and his staff on education and social services issues. Bowen graduated in 2012 from California State University, Los Angeles with over a 3.6 GPA, and was a Golden Key International Honour Society student.

Today, Chris lives with his partner in West Hollywood, California. In November 2013 Chris was elected Vice President of Political Affairs of the Stonewall Young Democrats, and has served on Stonewall Young Democrats board since June 2012. He also serves as The Stonewall Democratic Clubs Historian, and is an executive board member of that organization. Chris is also active in city affairs and local political organizations.

https://www.facebook.com/Christopher-Nikhil-Bowen-1380842102175321/info/?tab=page_info

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
17. I wonder how much money this person held out for before selling the Super vote?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:56 PM
Apr 2016

Note to purchased delegate: Hillary has always been against marriage equality, and only changed her rhetoric to suit the vast majority of polling regarding the subject 2 or 3 years ago, so I hope the price tag was high.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
22. He's not a super delegate,he's a delegate
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:07 PM
Apr 2016

to the California State Convention,that's from his Twitter account.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
32. Sorry, a super delegate from which country, which party and which year?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 08:22 PM
Apr 2016

Certainly not one from the USA, Democratic party, in 2016.



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