Me thinks you doth too much

... keeps pushing the marketing instead of practical answers when it comes to congress.


Nah, not enough outrage towards Team Used Car Salesmen

came up with it. Team Hillary must be nervous. All this attention on those pesky voting machines may throw a wrench in the works. Jimmy Carter is right - we need UN election monitors. This is so dirty.

If mean this section:

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Not one thing about how your candidate games the system, fracking, banks, speaking fees etc. This stupid fan dom, like cribs and bloods...while you think you win, you actually lose and with you this country if this women ever gets to set a foot in the white house. But even my daughter of 10 does not burn her hand on a hot stove twice, it takes an "adult" to do that instead.

... day and expecting a different electorate reality.

There's a reason why people aren't voting for him in those numbers

anything better? how about tin foil hats? or unicorns..or something else you want to prop up your stand up comedian props with?

after you....last time you got, incarceration, the destruction of the welfare system, the loosening of banking regulation, a justice system out of control...and to sweeten the deal a recession based upon the loosening of the banking rules. This time however will be different....she promised you.

ON:
Fracking
Death penalty
Fossil Fuel
Minimum wage
Private Prisons
Endless War on Brown People
Domestic spying
Trade Deals
The 'little people'

etc...etc...

... on progressiveness which is well documented

As his lack of scandals, despite the 'David Brock transparency brigade' best efforts

That's the whole of your attack ammo. A couple no longer relevant votes from decades ago. it's all you will ever have because his record is pristine.

... has come off of Team Used Car Salesmen

War-hawkishness
Poor judgement time after time to the point of criminal
Gaming the system to benefit herself
Half-truths, untruths, lying

Oh, and about every email correspondence she had between 2009 and 2013

Speaking fees!

He sold comic books. And when I was a kid I liked comic books! My favorite TV shows are Supergirl, Gotham, Flash, Arrow and Legends of Tomorrow. Of course I know their stories are not real, or even realistic.

if they're yet another DLC candidate...your conservative ass can vote for them.

I am a liberal/progressive. They don't get my vote unless they are actual liberal/progressives.

Just not me, because I work around 55 hours a week, have 2 little kids, and assorted adult responsibilities.

.. a diet coke and his window shades closed.

she might actually do something for you because of the trickle down effect right?

deflect from the issues. You want to be a big boy and join the conversation become informed!

... in dispute outside of podium bird land

Republicans come form districts, cities, and states with like minded voters. Their constituents want them to go to Washington and obstruct. Compromise is dirty word to them. They get voted out of office if they do. Republicans need to be defeated up and down ballot. There is no other option.

... continues with laws and he's not addressing this.

It's a sham...

When they're drawn into districts that protect their majorities. He should know that after 25 years in Congress.

... up the same people Trump is.

with a D next to their name.

... America voting for coporate immunity of any kind given any reason.

Fantasy land says that's progressive not people who work for a living and are affected by the weapons he supports.

Bottom line Mr "we'll see" isn't going to get shit done without congress... he keeps talking past them and people aren't falling for Team Used Car's marketing ploy

we are not talking about 3000 people annually here in the US, we are talking about tens of thousands of people that her greed has destroyed. But why don't you try to google some of that stuff? you don't have too...but you could, if you wanted too..you know..so you be better informed and all.

To come and watch you. Meanwhile you showed your lack of knowledge about the subject by trying to hide behind a dumb joke.

I work with some engineers that are voting for him only because they see it as a protest and a revolution. They are nice enough, but they are guys that make tons of money and are in closed worlds. I don't think painting the Republican's with a broad brush is a good tactic, you can't win a fight if you don't respect your opponent and see them and their issues. Independents are the largest untapped group for votes, Trump knows that and tries to appeal to them, Hillary doesn't care and only cares for her party like Cruz and Kas. Bernie is sending out lists of who to vote for, and I will follow that to a tee, and so will most people I know. The primary year is not the worst for Dems it is the the mid-terms we fail and it is because even our party does not try. But if you want marketing sign up and donate to Bernie, it is on the emails they send out all the time with updates.

... and that's something they even say.

They need to be outed and their culture of asshole changed.

Sanders "we'll see" when supporting a cast that will support his "revolution" is a tell tale to me he's full of shit and not serious about changing anything.

Like I said I know many republicans, and some of them voted for Bill Clinton when he ran, and will more than likely vote for Hillary because they are fiscally minded in their policy, but are not hung up on social as much. Hillary will pick up many republican votes I think, the question is it enough to make up for the loss of independents that now feel like she is one of the worst candidates they have ever seen (the way you are talking now they are talking that way about her). The problem with both parties is the boy's club mentality, the we know best, the corruption and collusion. Neither party will do good until they have walked to the edge, the republicans may finally do that this election if they break in to two, the Dems seem to be in denial that we also have corruption to the very root of our party. Hopefully the major networks will also fail this cycle.

And I'll keep donating to keep his message out there for as long as he'll keep going.

... unapologetic about his horrid D- rating from the NRA

Madame President will go down as the worst president ever for failing to act aggressively.

Increasingly severe weather and environmental events will be snowballing fast and her "incrementalism" will be vilified as the disasters escalate.

You'll own that.

You've prioritized a D- NRA rating over saving our planet.

No wonder the world hates us.

... and I don't give a damn that other people hate her with republican like fervor

Bernie’s promised to make climate change a central part of his administration. He knows its critical to move NOW.

Not like Hillary’s tepid proposals and "incrementalism" and support for status quo polluters like the fracking industry.

Hillary promises to get war criminal Netanyahu to Washington stat and do whatever Israel wants (war with Iran. Wars that are incredibly toxic and destructive to the planet's already fragile environmental health).

http://forward.com/opinion/national/324013/how-i-would-rebuild-ties-to-israel-and-benjamin-neta/

What's the point of having power when the work output is so republican-friendly?

There's a good argument to be made that it's better to make Republicans own their fuckups instead of sharing the blame.

... all that done but he's not thinking about any of that... it's "We'll See" when supporting down ballot dems or even people who lean progressive.

He's NOT the standard of progressiveness he gets a horrid D- rating from the NRA...

... in any planet except planet Podium Bird.

That's fantasy so I'll keep talking about till the cows ... or a Sanders congress... comes home

this is why it is an oligarchy.

https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf

... the enemy of adequate.

It's not adequate to think he's going to get anything done claiming "We'll see" about down ballot dems

counting her "Foundation" retirement plan. Sure she cares about the poor. Let them eat cake.

... it doesn't matter how much the right wing wants to repeat that she's Satans wife the adullts in the room don't believe it and its just noise.

... will be $400,000 per annum for the most difficult, nerve-wracking job in the world. Hours: 24/7 - even vacations can be cut short at a minute's notice.

She can make the same income by making two speeches per year - even with traveling time, no more than a few hours out of her life per year, and zero responsibilities.

So tell us again how she wants to be president because she only cares about "amassing hundreds of millions of dollars".

corporations in many ways. Cheney made Halliburton a huge success. Invading countries will make great profits for the MIC and they will reciprocate as they already have. How many hundreds of millions do they amass before you figure it out.

The Clintons - who have already made a fortune via speaking engagements, book sales, etc. - really need to live their lives in a pressure-cooker for the next eight years in order to make a buck.

... out in the midterm.

Change the DNC culture of presidential election focus from 4 years to month to month in regards to off years.


waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more concrete answer than Senator "We'll see" aka... he's full of crap

I'll happily eat crow if she becomes a fighting defender of the middle class and the poor, and successfully outmanuevers the GOP and brings a revitalized Democratic Party that is not just a brand name.

everyone else to protest and do the hard work.

... the first time Bernie explained that, as president, he could put is policies into action if "millions and millions" of people stood together and "threatened" to vote out the Republicans who refused to go along with his plans.

How could anyone NOT know that those Republicans would be voted out of office by the people who elected them if they DID go along with Bernie's plans?

That was my first clue that BS had NO idea what he was talking about - and there have been hundreds of clues since then.

... I don't think he's very intelligent. I had that feeling from day one, and it's been driven home time and again.

He's been on the campaign trail for a year now, and is still saying the same things he's been saying for three-plus decades. He gets flummoxed if asked a question that requires him to go off-script, and usually deflects the question by reverting to one of his old, worn-out talking points - which often have nothing to do with what was asked, or even the topic being discussed.

It leads me to believe that he's just not smart enough to learn anything new. That's why he did well at rallies - where he could just repeat the same old cliches, without having to answer questions or provide any details.

... and without prompting can get into detail specific numbers and facts.

She's rooted in reality relative to Sanders that't no doubt.

Makes me think she's paying women tax where she's got to be 3 times as smart as her counter parts.

I wish Bernie had remembered to talk about what Martin achieved with his million-man march on DC. That's what we need. That's what Bernie wants to see. R,P,R's are what legislators understand when they get big enough. In a country of 300M plus, it should be easy to get a million. I'd like to see the police round up a million people. Strength in numbers.

.. McConnnells window for 2343 days does

I'd say he addressed it pretty well in the town hall tonight...

Maybe you don't watch that kind of stuff.

We already saw what happened with a Clinton President and a Republican Congress. It was terrible.

... McConnell cares about calls and protest

... and in the general election Sanders issues wont be right wing noise like Clinton's.

No one is going to pay attention to FAUX news (other than DU) when it comes to Clinton and the GE

People already know he's a 75 year old Jewish democratic socialist. They don't care. He gets as high as 58% in general election polls.

... than anything Steagal could've thought of seeing it took away the beat cops from the direvative market.

It was even in the movie "The Big Short", that was Sanders vote... and it played a huge part in letting companies do 40 to 1 margins on some securities.

I'd beat the crap out of him daily with that one vote like Obama did with IWR that Clinton eventually said was a mistake

If that's the best you can come up with, Bernie is going to win the general election by double digits.

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dems that support the peoples agenda. Secondly, I think Bernie knows how to get things done. And as for used car salesman, that's not Team Bernie, but.....

A little upset about the great job he did?

... men were good until Mr foot in mouth said "we'll see" in regards to supporting down ballot dems.

And you tried REALLY hard.

Which if too many people decide to vote, he doesn't get to keep.

... Sanders hasn't told his followers about the redistricting and the lack of a represenative government

You still can't "redistrict" a senator.

... them over and over again to people as if those tactics have a chance.

Don't try shooting an aircraft carrier with a bb gun, it's not going to work...

Supporting down ballot dems does work!!!

... to deal with like cops who acts as occupying forces.

The reason people who have to live under occupying LEOs aren't voting for him is he's not speaking to their boogyman and that doesn't give people the impression he's listening at all.

Cause he's not, he doesn't give a shit about the boogyman of the people who are already economically insecure. When they were out there stopping traffic by sitting on bridges he was too busy curling away from their cause until it was seen as a political negative... yeah, then he jumped on board quick

Economic security wont take away occupying LEOs

Please take a moment to find it.

Republican candidates and office-holders certainly would care about all those things, if enough people were involved.

And the nation progressive enough to nominate and then elect a progressive might just be able to move Republican politicians significantly. Those things you listed and then dismissed? They describe citizen involvement, and a post that hints that our involvement is useless is defeatist and anti-democratic.

Get involved. Lobby hard, because the money is currently lobbying harder. And then "we'll see."

We've had four administrations of that nonsense and it's still nonsense.

What will get Repugs fired?

A fired-up left. People showing up at the polls to vote for an exciting nominee and while they're at it, checking a few "D" boxes down ticket. Simple as that. Quit "compromising" and start kicking the assholes out of their comfy chairs.