2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumLA Times: No evidence that Clinton has been corrupted by campaign contributions
Sanders calls Clinton's fundraising 'obscene,' but it's more nuanced -- influence isn't corruptionby Richard L. Hasen
April 25, 2016
Despite Bernie Sanders' repeated accusations, there's no real evidence that Hillary Clinton has been corrupted by large campaign contributions. But that's not to say donors haven't influenced her thinking and priorities. Lodged in the gap between Sanders' attacks and Clinton's rejoinders lies the truth about big money in politics.
Anyone who has heard two minutes of a Sanders stump speech knows he rails against a corrupt campaign finance system that benefits the rich and powerful, and boasts of the support he gets from millions of individuals making small donations.
Sanders and his supporters call Clinton's fundraising obscene. Using fuzzy math (such as counting all the donations bundled by lobbyists who have had oil companies as clients), the Sanders campaign asserted that Clinton took millions in donations from the fossil fuel industry.
More recently, the Sanders campaign's lawyer issued a letter suggesting, without evidentiary support, that Clinton or her supporters were breaking the law when they solicited six-figure donations in a joint fundraising operation with the Democratic National Committee and state political parties.
In fact, while that fundraising strategy might be troublesome, it does not appear to violate any of the many porous rules set by Congress, the Federal Election Commission, or the Supreme Court. Nor is there any evidence, despite the belief of some ardent Sanders supporters, that Clinton has somehow been bribed to do the bidding of big donors.
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0425-hasen-money-in-politics-20160425-story.html
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scscholar
(2,902 posts)Talk about beating a dead horse.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Not sure what you mean by the rest.
artislife
(9,497 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)She doesn't have thinking and priorities; she has backers and tacticians.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)His opponent, more than once. He has a D rating and Hillary has a F rating from the NRA, he claims she has gotten donations from NRA, looks like their money did not influence her.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)And that's a fact.
kcjohn1
(751 posts)Curious what you think those big donors are getting in return? I don't spend money unless I get something in return. Seems odd people giving away hundreds/millions of dollars and not expect to get anything in return...
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)That what the author claims anyway, the point being I think that the super-wealthy don't have to bribe politicians to get listened to:
This is a deeply troubling campaign finance system, one which is slipping dangerously toward plutocracy. But it doesn't take a bribe for money to matter, a lot.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Bernie no less than Hillary. That's the way political campaigns are currently financed. But there are good ways and bad ways to do it, and it appears that Hillary is more honest in reporting her campaign contributions as there seem to be some irregularities in Bernie's FEC filings:
Feds flag Bernie Sanders campaign contributions
Bernie Sanders received a warning from the Federal Election Commission, citing problems with his campaign's February finance report.
The letter states the report lists amounts of contributions, receipts, expenses and disbursements that "appear to be incorrect."
The letter also cites possible impermissible contributions that exceed the allowed limit per election cycle ($2,700 for individuals) along with donations that come from outside the United States and from unregistered political committees.
The FEC sent the letter Thursday to the campaign asking for more information regarding the report filed Feb. 20. The letter warned: "Failure to adequately respond by the response date noted above could result in an audit or enforcement action."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/02/26/bernie-sanders-campaign-contributions/80999298/
And:
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/politics/2016/02/26/feds-flag-bernie-sanders-campaign-contributions/80985898/
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)but no truth behind it.