2016 Postmortem

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts) Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:11 PM Apr 2016

It's arrogant and conservative to try and push Bernie out of the race.

Those who want to force everyone in the party into line behind HRC NOW are the ones who don't want the party to be progressive in power.

It's in the interest of everyone who actually wants real progressive change in this country for Bernie to stay in the race and keep fighting for the people.

The day he gets out, HRC instantly starts shifting right. HRC supporters know this as well as Bernie supporters. They also know there's no "pragmatic" reason for this, since there are no large groups of voters between Dem primary voters and the GOP on the issues, and there's no "centrist" course for effective policy between the two parties.

Since most HRC supporters are more progressive than their candidate, they should want Bernie to stay in and force HRC to keep at least close to being on the side of some of the 99%.

And it's important, if nothing else, that the votes of the people of California and Oregon matter this year.

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It's arrogant and conservative to try and push Bernie out of the race. (Original Post) Ken Burch Apr 2016 OP

It's mean and you don't like puppies if you disagree with me SCantiGOP Apr 2016 #1

Who is pushing him out? apcalc Apr 2016 #2

There are tons of "it's all over-get in line" threads in GD:P as we speak. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #3

It's actually the same thing Trump is trying to do to his jillan Apr 2016 #4

The voters are what's blocking Bernies path griffi94 Apr 2016 #5

I'm not pushing him out... Agschmid Apr 2016 #6

I want him to stay in and continue to be beaten by the centrist who will be our party's nominee. Freddie Stubbs Apr 2016 #7

If it weren't for the left, we'd still have Jim Crow. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #9

That describes them perfectly. Arrogant. And Conservative. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #8

I agree gopiscrap Apr 2016 #10

Ah, so this is the new meme you all came up with to insult Democrats on Du. seabeyond Apr 2016 #11

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)

1. It's mean and you don't like puppies if you disagree with me

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:20 PM

Apr 2016

This is the contest for over-the-top
headlines, right?

apcalc

(4,465 posts)

2. Who is pushing him out?

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:22 PM

Apr 2016

I haven't heard or read of anyone , anywhere , trying to push him out.
In fact, I've heard the opposite. His supporters everywhere should be able to vote for him.

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)

3. There are tons of "it's all over-get in line" threads in GD:P as we speak.

Reply to apcalc (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:23 PM

Apr 2016

There's no excuse for any of them. Nothing good would come of Bernie getting out earlier rather than later.

jillan

(39,451 posts)

4. It's actually the same thing Trump is trying to do to his

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:26 PM

Apr 2016

Opponents because he's winning.

Have you noticed that?

griffi94

(3,733 posts)

5. The voters are what's blocking Bernies path

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:28 PM

Apr 2016

Millions more of them are voting for Hillary.

All the primaries will be held. Everybody gets to vote.
He has no path forward to the nomination but they're not
going to cancel the rest of the primaries.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)

6. I'm not pushing him out...

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:30 PM

Apr 2016

I'm just sort of watching in awe this slow self destruction that's happening.

Tad Devine/Jeff Weaver are mostly to blame.

Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)

7. I want him to stay in and continue to be beaten by the centrist who will be our party's nominee.

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:36 PM

Apr 2016

It's important to demonstrate that this a moderate party, not a left-wing fringe party.

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)

9. If it weren't for the left, we'd still have Jim Crow.

Reply to Freddie Stubbs (Reply #7)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:53 PM

Apr 2016

In 1960, all the "centrists" were just fine with segregation going on indefinitely.

You have no reason to despise the left...the left is the only part of the spectrum that fights for the powerless, that seeks real, lasting change, that wants a world free from war. Without us, it's just barbarism...forever.

Bernie has won a lot of primaries and caucuses, too.