She could not get it through.

How does she think she can change gun laws?

She isn't going to take peoples guns, just enact some basic better protections, which are long overdue.

Hillary and Bill FAILED big time on the issue they were elected on: Healthcare

people into pushing back against it?
And do you remember Hillary digging in and getting children's health care passed?

Why?

Surely you know how the congress works.

...because "congress works"?

Compare Hillary's vita of actual results with Bernie's and it's downright embarrassing for the guy. Speeches galore, passed legislation? Not so much.

It shoul have been done and signed in the 90's. The fact we are dicussing it in 2016 is because Hillary failed.

They called him the amendment king because he got things done, Hillary got one thing done, starting the Iraq war...good for her. Was there gun violence in that war?

...you're welcome.

He got very little done. Tacking an amendment on a bill before the bill passes is not exactly impressive leadership.

He sponsored (not co-sponsored or tacking amendments) 3 bills in 25 years that passed Congress. Two named Vermont post offices.

That's one bill every 8.3 years in Congress.

Yep, he's a backbencher.

But don't take my word for it...
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/24/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-was-roll-call-amendment-king-1995-2/

Basically, it mandated that employers provide health insurance to all their employees.

There is absolutely no chance that Bernie's platform will be achieved. It is simple math in the makeup of Congress and that most state legislatures are controlled by Republicans.

Bernie is woefully short on how to achieve any objective in his talking points, re the NYDN editorial board interview. It was disturbing.

In his political career, Bernie has been a talented advocate. That's what he does really well. But in his 25 years in Congress, he has not demonstrated that he can actually lead a group of people and do the hard, long and tiring work essentially for getting legislation passed.
That inability is the key reason why Bernie's reputation is that of a backbencher. A great advocate, but woefully short on actual results.

Say what you will about Clinton, but if you put her vita next to Bernie's, she far outshines him in getting results.

Maybe I'm wrong, but did he campaign throughout NY state for it before it was voted on? Did he endorse any state legislature candidates based on their support for it? Aside from saying, at some prior point, that the minimum wage should be higher, what concrete steps and actions did Bernie Sanders personally take to get the minimum wage raised?

Or, once it had already been accomplished by other people and their hard work, did he show up after-the-fact and try to take credit for it? The same way his supporters tried to make it seem like Fight for $15 only succeeded because Bernie had supposedly endorsed it?

Do you know what "nuance" means? I wonder...

This is basic economic fact. The cost of living is much higher in some cities compared to others. A blanket policy nationwide would ties the hands of local government in places where a higher minimum wage is not sustainable.

Sure, $15 everywhere makes for a catchy, if mindless, slogan, but what's the actual viability of it? I don't think Sanders has thought it through that far, because all he cares about is yelling his slogans at rallies and basking in the subsequent adoration.

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What amount of comments is permissible, Officer?

As his 25 year Congressional record demonstrates, he's not so much into doing the exhausting, long, and necessary work to actually something done. Results are not his strong suit.

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Why do so many forget that?

That's what you posted.

Remember why Bill won? It was healthcare.

That is what you posted. I have now asked you three times "Why are *her gun proposals more unrealistic than universal healthcare*?"

York County and many counties in the US..

What about Hillary's gun proposals is so unrealistic?

Still can't tell me why YOU said NO to me? And don't say it's because I spelled their names wrong!

I said "No" to what your interpretation of my question was. I want to know "Why" her gun proposals are so unrealistic. You refuse to answer.

Until you answer that question, I'm done with this thread.

As long as we elect people like Clinton who embrace big money in politics. It is that simple. If she really wanted to stop it she and DNC would not of made it even easier this primary for them to accept big money. NRA is too powerful on GOP side with buying them for us to get change. Hell we can't even get cop killer bullets illegal because of NRA money. So until we have a candidate who is not beholden to big money and gets money out of politics this will never change.

Nobody's getting shitola passed through a Republican congress.

Bernie’s the king of amendments and is known for his prowess in negotiating tough compromises. Want examples? You know I have them.

Stop the lies.

Clinton's vita includes disastrous foreign policy decisions and such a tepid climate change agenda its enough to make a person weep.

Your willful distortion of his NYDN interview (breathlessly reported by the NYDN owned by a billionaire supporter of Hillary) has been thoroughly debunked. In fact if you've spent one second on berniesanders.com you'd know he has outlined the ways he'd pay for his proposals.

Hillary? Tax credits?



Who has $6000 around to pay the bills for a heart attack in March that they can't get a tax credit refund until April the following year by which time they're evicted.

Its unicorns and you know it.

Even the Unicorns are voting for Bernie because we smell truth in what he says, and cow manure when Hillary speaks.