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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIf You Want Solid Evidence That Clinton Is Corrupting the Political Process, Here It Is
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2016/04/if-you-want-solid-evidence-that-clinton-is-corrupting-the-political-process-here-it-isWhenever Hillary Clinton is accused of being a shady politician, who uses underhanded and unscrupulous methods, her supporters become extremely defensive. They say that all such allegations against Clinton are simply products of the right-wing noise machine, and that if Clinton is seen as venal and conniving it is almost certainly due to sexism rather than anything Clinton has actually done. Longtime Clinton operative David Brock has argued that when you get down to it, all of the scandals and allegations surrounding Clinton are little more than nothingburgers. Salons Gary Legum says there are simply credulous people willing to believe any variation of legerdemain, no matter how irrational and absurd, if the name Hillary Clinton is attached to it.
But a new report offers hard evidence that Clintons campaign is, in fact, engaged in some of the most underhanded and antidemocratic practices that afflict our political system. In fact, Clintons campaign is engaged in precisely the kind of money-driven secrecy and subversion that Democrats have long insisted were wrecking American politics.
According to the Daily Beast, a pro-Clinton SuperPAC called Correct the Record has spent $1 million pushing back against Bernie Sanders supporters on social media, addressing thousands of people on Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, and Instagram. What this amounts to in practice is creating hundreds of fake accounts, which then place campaign propaganda all over the web as if it came from ordinary supporters. This group is spending a fortune unofficially intervening in social media conversations, without other users knowing that the messages are being funded by a SuperPAC.
This practice is known as astroturfing (as in fake grass-roots), and its long been deployed by the more disreputable corporate marketers. (Versions of it have been used by Big Tobacco, the gas industry, and campaigners against teachers unions.) Companies will have astroturfers fill comments sections and social media, pretending to be ordinary members of the community, while they are in fact simply shilling for their employer. As Adam Bienkov of The Guardian defines it, astroturfing is the attempt to create an impression of widespread grassroots support for a policy, individual, or product, where little such support exists. Multiple online identities and fake pressure groups are used to mislead the public into believing that the position of the astroturfer is the commonly held view.
But a new report offers hard evidence that Clintons campaign is, in fact, engaged in some of the most underhanded and antidemocratic practices that afflict our political system. In fact, Clintons campaign is engaged in precisely the kind of money-driven secrecy and subversion that Democrats have long insisted were wrecking American politics.
According to the Daily Beast, a pro-Clinton SuperPAC called Correct the Record has spent $1 million pushing back against Bernie Sanders supporters on social media, addressing thousands of people on Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, and Instagram. What this amounts to in practice is creating hundreds of fake accounts, which then place campaign propaganda all over the web as if it came from ordinary supporters. This group is spending a fortune unofficially intervening in social media conversations, without other users knowing that the messages are being funded by a SuperPAC.
This practice is known as astroturfing (as in fake grass-roots), and its long been deployed by the more disreputable corporate marketers. (Versions of it have been used by Big Tobacco, the gas industry, and campaigners against teachers unions.) Companies will have astroturfers fill comments sections and social media, pretending to be ordinary members of the community, while they are in fact simply shilling for their employer. As Adam Bienkov of The Guardian defines it, astroturfing is the attempt to create an impression of widespread grassroots support for a policy, individual, or product, where little such support exists. Multiple online identities and fake pressure groups are used to mislead the public into believing that the position of the astroturfer is the commonly held view.
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If You Want Solid Evidence That Clinton Is Corrupting the Political Process, Here It Is (Original Post)
KamaAina
Apr 2016
OP
So many have blinders on, they just can't comprehend what is going on. 2016 is going to be
RKP5637
Apr 2016
#1
Yep! LOLs!!! There is no way she's going to be indicted! He's full of BS!!! AKA Fox News!
RKP5637
Apr 2016
#16
Presumably they will be fighting the misinfo in the GE, which is where Hillary's focus is now. n/t
Lucinda
Apr 2016
#10
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)1. So many have blinders on, they just can't comprehend what is going on. 2016 is going to be
very rough for HRC.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)3. But she may very well be our last hope.
If not our best one.
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)5. It's like playing Russian roulette. n/t
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)19. If true - democracy and the middle-class are toast
felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)2. It's a virtual reality
not based on anything but money, I wish we could blow it over like a house of cards.
think
(11,641 posts)4. That's a pretty scathing rebuke of Clinton from Current Affairs /nt
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)6. I know it's Fox News, but here's this ...
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)14. Judge Nepolitano? Really?
This dude's track record of predictions is about as good as HA HA Goodman's. And he hates Hillary about as much, too.
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)16. Yep! LOLs!!! There is no way she's going to be indicted! He's full of BS!!! AKA Fox News!
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)7. This fight is truly for the soul of the party
I will have nothing to do with the party if Bernie does not wish to reform it. If he wants to, I'm in.
yodermon
(6,143 posts)8. They have it locked up, there is no need for this.
Or are they in "Finish him!" scorched earth mode bcz that's just how they roll?
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)10. Presumably they will be fighting the misinfo in the GE, which is where Hillary's focus is now. n/t
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)9. Yeah...because a group who ANNOUNCES that they are going to fight back against misinformation
is some shady thing.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)11. LMMFAO!! The announcement was 3 days ago
What about the previous 30 years?
What a waste of 5 minutes of my life.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)12. Bump to expose them. nt
TalkingDog
(9,001 posts)13. Where I'm from that's called propaganda.
n/t
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)15. "Longtime Clinton operative David Brock"
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere's yer sign.
He was a right wing pit bull till the late nineties; and then got bought.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)17. Propaganda Nothingburger
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)18. Minitrue ergo 2+2=5! Ta-da! nt