I've seen more class @4chan.

I don't know what hangs over this election season, but it was strong enough to punch a hole into this world, and take our civility with it!

Some individuals post some terrible things. Pile up the alerts and it looks bad.

... I can understand how those groups probably got alerted. I've seen how horrific these Facebook warriors can be when separated. Put them all in one group and they're probably talking violent revolution or something.

Ever since million dollar trolls became a story, suddenly everybody is one.

Where's my cash, Hillary? Don't be throwin' me no shade. I just wanna get paid!

LOL

I am not a paid troll and the admins can easily verify that.

Be proud your candidate needs that kind of paid support. There's not much organic out there for corporate shills.

Neither impresses me. Bernie claims Hillary is on the take by greedy corporations. It didn't stop him from trying to use the Vatican to inspire a little old-fashioned religious devotion for his cause. Whether people are promoting Hillary because they were offered money or whether they're promoting Bernie because they have blindly accepted his vision to the point where they do not deviate from his views by a millimeter, neither impresses me. Frankly, I'm still amazed at how pro-gun all these super leftist Bernie supporters have become. Can't they just say, "hey, I agree with nine out of ten of this guy's policies?" No. They have to find some way to force their positions into agreement with his entire platform. That scares me as much as any religious cult.

Pope Frances would never invite Hillary. Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! So make it a negative. Again, people who are paying attention know this Pope wants economic morality. Only one person running making that the priority.

Go Birdie Sanders! Even nature knows he's for all of us.

In fact, not a single other Hillary supporter spoke of my particular issues with that visit, which was why I finally joined this site after years of lurking in the first place. While I do think that invite was orchestrated in a sleazy way, who invited who was far less of an issue than the hypocrisy of claiming that our government is controlled by wealthy and powerful corporations only to attempt (and I mean attempt) to curry favor with one of the wealthiest and most powerful institutions on earth. Oh, and they're a foreign nation to boot. And I also had a major issue with the Vatican participating in this, even though I ultimately think the Pope himself probably wanted to run far away from this and it looks like he was manipulated every step of the way.

If either Sorondo or the Pope (the latter whom, incidentally, did not invite Sanders) invited Hillary, I would have been equally irritated. In fact, if it had been Hillary and not Bernie, I would have actually switched from Hillary to Bernie over it.

But if you want to lump me in with whoever, feel free. I've been called a sock and a troll so many times this past few weeks, that I'm used to it.

Disgusting. Go get your paycheck.

It was sleazy. Sanders had Sachs pitch this to Sorondo, end-game around Archer (who was actually furious enough to speak about it—yeah, she was on the invitation but she was clearly not consulted in any way that ended with approval). Then, when it was clear that the Pope was trying to escape this sideshow with his "querido hermano" letter to Sorondo (which Bernie supporters claimed on here was the Pope calling Bernie "brother" and only one Sanders supporter corrected that OP—only one) expressing regret for missing the conference, Sornondo cooked up a last minute handshake the night before by which Bernie would have the lurk about the lobby of the hotel (which Bernie supporters here claimed was the Pope's private residence that Bernie was invited by the Pope to when it was actually a residence that most of the conference attendees stay at and the Pope lives at in order to appear more humble), so that he could have a water cooler conversation for about five minutes.

The whole thing was disgusting. It sets a terrible precedent. I don't want our presidential candidates looking for tacit endorsements from the Vatican anymore than I want them currying favor from Liberty University or, worse, Bob Jones University (thank heavens they jumped into the shark—you never hear about them anymore). And too many Bernie supporters here reveled into the potential boost in Catholic votes to believe any claims that this was not sought out for expressly that purpose. What happens when we set that precedent and then the Church takes a turn we don't like but now we're stuck seeking the endorsement of someone who is probably even more anti-gay and anti-woman than this Pope (who is both)?

And worse, beyond the minuscule timeline of Bernie Sanders or even the broader timeline of the next few decades of American elections, I don't want a 2,000 year old institution that gave us the Crusades, Witch Burnings, and the Inquisition taking an active role in manipulating our elections. I'd rather have Goldman Sachs, and that's really saying something because I really don't think corporations should be manipulating government either.

Isn't it Bill Clinton who is an actual predator of women? The evidence points to "yes"

Such a foolish thing to bring up, considering.

do tell

They can very easily know from the information I submitted for my account that I am very much a real person and not representative of anyone else. My email address links to my website on which I couldn't be more public about who I am. Heck, it wouldn't be hard to deduce for people even not having my email address.

I have a few fans, but I'm hardly an a-lister. One might even say I'm on a letter-list somewhere down in the Russian alphabet, I'm so second rate, but the fact is, there's people who know me and it wouldn't be hard to figure out I'm not a paid shill by anyone. But, by all means, keep throwing it out there.

Photobucket was acting up too. Now it's all better. Like the power on a rainy day. But count on team B to come up with an anti-Hillary conspiracy theory.

A sever glitch that affected four of Bernie's most popular FB sites?

I just came from over there and people took screen shots of Hillary supporters saying that they deliberately alerted the page--claiming to FB that posts on the Bernie sites were threatening or violent.

Other Hillary supporters were cheerleading him on and they were marveling at what they had done. I took screenshots as well.

What a bunch of weasels.

It was David Brock's Puppet Brigade at work.

Groups on Facebook aren't taken offline by rainstorms.

Neat trick!

You would be best served stepping back from this and not trying to double down on something with photographic proof.

It was not compelling.

That explains your support for Hillary. Facts be damned!

C'est la vie.

Either you are trolling (effectively) or you have a blind spot when it comes to actual, proven, tangible facts. Either choice is very sad.

and all the men and women merely Brockpuppets . . .

But not in a good way.

I wonder how many people got it.

Hmmm.

It's likely someone who wants to disrupt Clinton and the Dems.

What a coincidence! Republican disruptive tactics.

When you have a group of people who want to believe so badly that somebody on their side is an evil crook they're incredibly easy to manipulate.

Poor Hillary.

Will never vote for Clinton. She is too corrupt.

He's never going to win.

No worries. Never voting for Clinton. Thanks for helping cinch that for me. The more horrible Hillary trolls the more obvious it is. Republicans are better suited for this kind of campaigning. They are dumb. Democrats see it for what it is. And it will not help her in the general.

I couldnt sleep knowing we were on the same team.

ignore for you.

... so that you think they have some sort of moral high ground amazes me. Not only how I've seen Hillary supporters attacked, silenced, and alert-stalked here by virtue of a jury system that favors a site that's 80% Bernie supporters, but also the absolute viciousness I've seen on Facebook. I am quite sure if any of these groups were taken down by alerts, they were well deserved alerts, unlike the ones you see on this site.

#notfoolinganyonebrocktroll

If this site actually had admins that paid attention to it, you could email them and they'd be able to tell you that I am neither a sock nor a paid troll.

... you were never going to, so what did she lose?

to have you here.

came in the door.

Besides, the really vile pages (where you can see actual misogyny) hosted by republicans look to still be up.

Your assumptions are a very poor fit for reality.

Ironic coming from the ultimate sexist, but since he knows it so well...

I'm in several Bernie groups, and they re some of the nicest people. Sure you get your immature trolls everywhere, but relegating a whole group of people as misogynistic is the height of stupidity.

Turns out that Facebook has some server errors that broke many FB Groups, not just Sanders fanboy ones.

Another bubble popped!

Book marking.

I believe you need to look no further than Correct the Record(lie to cover it up) Hillary paid trolls to find the real people behind the Bernie Bros.

the NY primary--got shut down for a while a few days ago.

I guess the individual was proud, bottom line is I just became Bernie or Bust ! Integrity and shady tactics is not for me.. it is a twitter image

Unlike this site and it's lovely jury system, I have seen some of the worst things on Facebook alerted with not even a finger lifted to remove it. I've seen hundreds and hundreds of people report the same abusive item and get no response. If Facebook actually banned a page for a credible threat of violence, I would be willing to bet there was one. I'd love to see the specific posts that were alerted. More importantly, I'd love to see how people here would perform the mental calisthenics necessary to justify those posts.

The concern then is on Hillary voluntarily defending a Rapist. Hillary in the 1975 and a sexual abuse case where Hillary took the rape victim "through Hell"

“Hillary Clinton took me through Hell,” the victim said.

Hillary said the victim was "emotionally unstable,with a tendency to seek out older men and engage in fantasizing".

According to the daily beast article, the victim said "if she saw Clinton today, she would call her out for what she sees as the hypocrisy of Clinton’s current campaign to fight for women’s rights compared to her actions regarding this rape case so long ago."

By the way Hillary lied about it in 2014 when she said "“But at least in our system you have an obligation, and once I was appointed I fulfilled that obligation,” she wasn't actually a defense lawyer but was actually asked if she would represent the rapist as a favor to him, so she had a choice !!!

Now on the tape, in her own voice she was actually asked if she would represent the rapist as a favor to him, so she had a choice !!!

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/20/exclusive-hillary-clinton-took-me-through-hell-rape-victim-says.html
http://freebeacon.com/politics/hillary-clinton-speaks-about-defense-of-child-rapist/

And if they purposely don't win, they can be disbarred.

Now on the tape, in her own voice she was actually asked if she would represent the rapist as a favor to him, so she had a choice !!!

I don't imagine I'm going to see much other than a lawyer doing her job but I'll certainly have a listen.

which seems way worse than bernie writing an essay

here in downstate illinois all a person hears at the local breakfast places is

monica,cigars, carlos danger (there is more but i don't want a hide)

bernie won my county by 70-30

illinois has a repub gov and senator, it is no longer a guaranteed blue state

the poster you responded to having that gif in his sig line is so disgusting i will have to leave du if there is any chance of me being able to vote dem in nov if she is the candidate

sad what the hc campaign has done to the democratic party

<shrugs>

Thanks

There it is, indeed.

The individual posted Child porn on the site and was proud of it
pic.twitter.com/GPRGKEbroG

I have a feeling this might piss off people a bit more savvy then her army of alerters.

campaign is doing...

disenfranchise?

I think she's just made her election in the general even less likely. At the very least, she's given Trump a whole lot more ammo against her. Any time there is something either for or against Hillary, Trump (or whoever the loser is) will be able to ask how much she paid for it.

Hillary is way ahead in votes and delegates, and will be even further ahead after tomorrow.

So her campaign decides that NOW is the time to "bogus alert" Bernie's FB pages.

Yeah, makes perfect sense.

... is your take on it.

But what would be gained by alerting on Bernie FB pages? Will it change the outcome of tomorrow's races?

The "alert" I saw had to do with threats of violence. The logical conclusion would be that facing tomorrow's defeat, a few Bernie supporters got a bit too agitated and said things they shouldn't have.

Have you seen the comments left on the FB pages of John Lewis, Gabby Giffords, Al Franken, Elizabeth Warren, etc., by Bernie supporters? It's not like they aren't already known for getting a bit hot-under-the-collar when they feel like it.

Do you honestly believe that people who follow Bernie are capable of violence? Pfffft.

Lunacy.

FB shuts down pages based on threats of violence, suggesting it, or encouraging it.

They are not the least bit interested in assessing whether someone "meant it", or was "capable of it" - that's not their job.

I don't believe that genuine Bernie followers are capable of threatening violence, suggesting it, or encouraging it.

I do believe that there are plenty of ratfuckers out there on facebook. I see them every day. They usually seem to espouse Trump.

But that doesn't mean they're HRC people either - so why jump to one conclusion and not the other?

There's precedent here. The comments BS supporters left on the FB pages of people who endorsed HRC are well known, and have been documented and written about. There are also the threatening letters, emails and phone calls to super-delegates from BS supporters.

So it's not a stretch to think they'd post things on Bernie's FB pages that were threatening.

... that people can get in their anti-HRC digs before tomorrow's primaries - which many here fear will be the last night they can do so before Skinner brings the hammer down on people bashing the apparent nominee.

He won't - but they don't know that for sure. So it's throw-everything-at-the-wall night before it's too late.

But I have to say this "Hillary shut down Bernie's FB pages" story is an absolute hoot! Who knew that desperation could be THIS entertaining!

Publicly stated that she's against it. So even if these aren't paid for trolls, she's condoned their behavior.

Gives her tacit approval

why is the system out to get Bernie? he who would singlehandedly fix capitalism, ensure that guns hurt no one, and let his democratic self out in full glory.

even google developers are probably writing code to skew election results and polls. I think when a poll result is displayed, Bernie and Hillary results are swapped so Bernie always seems to be behind.

while I'm at it. I don't understand why Hillary should win the nomination just because she has more declared delegates and superdelegates. when does having more votes give her the right to take the nomination? Especially if, by the current changing in support, if the nomination was delayed for another year, Bernie would win. Why is Hillary so corrupt that she has worked the system so that the nominee has to be selected this year.

Hillary has all the power to corrupt the system by having votes counted, nominations this year, and 35 years as a lawyer, first lady, best selling author, senator, secretary of state. what does she know. And given the chance, couldn't all of us do what she's done? Bernie could. And Hillary didn't let him do any of those things. I would vote for Bernie but Hillary won't let me.

***Not sure if real or sarcasm***

For our revolution.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280185081

... Why would legitimate Hillary supporters antagonize Bernie supporters in this way at this time? Frankly, it would make more sense for Bernie supporters to do that to Hillary, since it's an act of desperation, and Hillary is hardly desperate. My guess is these acts are being committed by those trying to sow discord among Democrats. Hopefully not any Bernie supporters will fall for it. But, if there's proof that it's being done by the Hillary super PAC, by all means share it.

... but again it seems to m that the only people at this point who are interested in sowing discord between Bernie and Hillary supporters are the Republicans. Hillary is clearly winning the primary race, so has no motive for such shenanigans at this point. If this happened a few weeks ago, it might make a little more sense, but it doesn't make any sense right now.

By the way, I don't really use Facebook much, but it appears that Viva Bernie is up and running, and the article it links to simply presumes it's Hillary supporters doing this. But, again, I think that's unlikely (unless it's a group of obnoxious teens).

Also, there's at least one twitter claiming that this was a Facebook problem, not an attack on Sanders (about halfway down, a Twitter from Aidan King, who apparently is a very, very active in the Sanders campaign):

http://heavy.com/news/2016/04/bernie-sanders-facebook-groups-removed-banned-deleted-why-hillary-clinton-attack-censorship-which/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/aidan-king-81741459

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We've seen them gloat on other sites about stalking Bernie supporters here to get them put on time out.

We've seen plenty of sneaky, malicious, destructive actions followed by gloating.

How can anyone be proud to be like that? In fact, how can anyone stand to be like that? It's incomprehensible. Yet we see it every day.

Maybe this place needs a resident psychiatrist.

People who feel they are being overwhelmed and have a losing position (and are often of the privileged groups) will try to find anything they do to put themselves on top. They go the crazy route because they it see as an only alternative to succeed at their aims and beliefs.

However, it reveals a nasty mindset from partisans. 2001 comes to mind. For those alive and awake 1973 comes to mind

It contains the sidebar as well, where Hillary supporters are congratulating the perp for alerting, and telling the perp to pease delete the revealing post so nothing reflects poorly on their group.