2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe Nation: African-American Voters Have an Understandable Reason to Support Hillary Clinton
Bernie Sanders has propelled economic inequality to center stage. But older African Americans have known about inequality for a long time.
By Eric Foner - TODAY 2:01 PM
Supporters wait for Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton to speak at the Charles H. Wright Museum of African American History in Detroit, Michigan.
Why have most African-American voters, especially in the Southern states, steadfastly supported Hilary Clinton in the Democratic primaries? This question has bedeviled supporters of Bernie Sanders, who has a long record of support for racial justice and whose economic policies would arguably benefit blacks more than Clintons. As a Sanders supporter and a scholar who has devoted much of my career to studying the African-American experience, I have wondered about this myself.
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But for black Carolinians, the challenge today seems to be holding on to gains that are under assault rather than seeking further progress. It is not surprising that voters in this situation prefer a familiar candidate who seems to promise progress, even if incremental, rather than a lesser-known insurgent from a virtually all-white state with a sweeping but seemingly utopian agenda.
Black voters, moreover, are extremely protective of President Obama. They recognize, more viscerally than many whites, how much of the invective hurled at the president has a racist tinge. No white president has been forced to produce his birth certificate to demonstrate his citizenship or been interrupted during a State of the Union address and accused of lying. When Obama is called lazy or a food-stamp president, the language, among blacks, evokes stereotypes deeply rooted in Americas racial past. To some extent, when blacks vote for Clinton they are casting one last ballot for Obama.
Given all of the above, black support for Clinton is understandable. Sanders has done a remarkable thing in propelling economic inequality to the center stage of political discourse, thereby galvanizing support among young white voters, and some young blacks. But older African Americans have known about inequality for a long, long time. Whatever the outcome of this election, one lesson of our history is clear: No progressive movement in this country can succeed without a significant base of support in the black community.
http://www.thenation.com/article/african-american-voters-have-a-good-reason-to-support-hillary-clinton/
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Response to ucrdem (Original post)
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ucrdem
(15,512 posts)so any talk of an Independent or 3rd-party run is basically pitching to the wrong side.
p.s. this is written by a Sanders supporter so don't look for anything too surprising.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Response to JonLeibowitz (Reply #4)
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ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Saved you a space . . . It's going to be another great night!
So exciting!
Was going to respond to your post after I did to Jon.....got way laded by another lost soul. Had to respond.
Ya will be here tonight. By the time I get home from work it may already be called.
We will.....
I can't wait!
Hugs~
Luvs ya ucrdem
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)sheshe2
(83,786 posts)I am going down.............too...
Gotta sleep~
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)sheshe2
(83,786 posts)Goodnight~
Thanks sweets.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)and that is honestly saying something.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)becoming an indispensable block of voters. If Dems want to be elected, they are going to have to pay attention, and deliver on their promises. Full stop.
And while many on the left chose to believe in the "Clintons are racists" nonsense in 08, AA voter after voter has gone one record saying they never fell for it, and didn't vote AGAINST Hillary, they voted FOR Obama, after he proved to be viable in Iowa. That is why they stand with her now.
It's pretty simple when you get down to it. But good luck trying to explain it to the "populists" LOL.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)in knots trying to explain away her strong support in the AA community. All they had to do was to ASK any one of the hundreds of thousands of Hillary voters. The folks I saw talking about it on my computer screen were pretty darn clear about it.
But then again, people who bought into the racist nonsense may have a vested interest in simply not seeing how they might have got it wrong back then. Weird times.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Fortunately the Bernie bus is making its last stop tonight. So sad.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)he comes across as an older white privileged hippie who could afford to take part in some civil rights marches and protests, escape Vermont, flirt with Marxism, never work a regular job until age 40, have a child out of wedlock, live off the state and his wives and girlfriends for a while and never be held accountable for anything. Still be elected to office without having to answer for anything that others would be disqualified for.
Cha
(297,282 posts)Beautiful weather on the horizon!!
It's going to be a great day!
LOve your great-day breaking pic, man. Mahalo~
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)I'm putting that in my sig . . .
tomorrow!
p.s.
Cha
(297,282 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Mahalo Cha!
Cha
(297,282 posts)If I had room I do it, too.. it look's really inviting..
I had it for my avatar for awhile but if was so small I could barely tell.. so I decided to go with the
You're Welcome, ucr~
Sky Masterson
(5,240 posts)Those are some long coattails.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)But don't forget this is a Bernie supporter looking for reasons so he might be overlooking someone . . .
bigtree
(85,998 posts)...Sanders supporters will still believe they know what's best for the black community.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)...and believe the election of their candidate would be good for America.
In 2008, Hillary Clinton's supporters would have liked everyone to vote for her. She didn't get the majority of the black vote.
Would you characterize that by saying Clinton's 2008 supporters thought they knew "what's best for the black community"?
Armstead
(47,803 posts)One of the Republican-sounding memes is this meme that Sanders supporters are somehow "different" and particularly "purist" and arrogant because we have strong beliefs in our candidate and the issue he represents.
As if having beliefs and ideals and political goals is a bad thing.
But it's fine to have therm if you support Clinton.
bigtree
(85,998 posts)...but I'm speaking from my experience in THIS campaign, not 2008.
I've never witnessed such arrogance and indifference from a campaign's supporters before. It matches the national trend of revived insensitivity and historical amnesia toward the black community.
The actual campaign has chimed in, as well, with their own brand of ignorance and privilege.