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ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 12:11 AM Apr 2016

The Nation: African-American Voters Have an Understandable Reason to Support Hillary Clinton

Bernie Sanders has propelled economic inequality to center stage. But older African Americans have known about inequality for a long time.

By Eric Foner - TODAY 2:01 PM

Supporters wait for Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton to speak at the Charles H. Wright Museum of African American History in Detroit, Michigan.

Why have most African-American voters, especially in the Southern states, steadfastly supported Hilary Clinton in the Democratic primaries? This question has bedeviled supporters of Bernie Sanders, who has a long record of support for racial justice and whose economic policies would arguably benefit blacks more than Clinton’s. As a Sanders supporter and a scholar who has devoted much of my career to studying the African-American experience, I have wondered about this myself.

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But for black Carolinians, the challenge today seems to be holding on to gains that are under assault rather than seeking further progress. It is not surprising that voters in this situation prefer a familiar candidate who seems to promise progress, even if incremental, rather than a lesser-known insurgent from a virtually all-white state with a sweeping but seemingly utopian agenda.

Black voters, moreover, are extremely protective of President Obama. They recognize, more viscerally than many whites, how much of the invective hurled at the president has a racist tinge. No white president has been forced to produce his birth certificate to demonstrate his citizenship or been interrupted during a State of the Union address and accused of lying. When Obama is called “lazy” or a “food-stamp president,” the language, among blacks, evokes stereotypes deeply rooted in America’s racial past. To some extent, when blacks vote for Clinton they are casting one last ballot for Obama.

Given all of the above, black support for Clinton is understandable. Sanders has done a remarkable thing in propelling economic inequality to the center stage of political discourse, thereby galvanizing support among young white voters, and some young blacks. But older African Americans have known about inequality for a long, long time. Whatever the outcome of this election, one lesson of our history is clear: No progressive movement in this country can succeed without a significant base of support in the black community.

http://www.thenation.com/article/african-american-voters-have-a-good-reason-to-support-hillary-clinton/

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The Nation: African-American Voters Have an Understandable Reason to Support Hillary Clinton (Original Post) ucrdem Apr 2016 OP
Posted to for later. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #1
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #2
The point is that Sanders can't win anything without the base ucrdem Apr 2016 #3
This is a pretty offensive post. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Apr 2016 #8
heya sheshe! ucrdem Apr 2016 #9
Sorry... sheshe2 Apr 2016 #11
Bernie just sent this tweet ucrdem Apr 2016 #13
Bwahahahahahahaha sheshe2 Apr 2016 #16
' night she ucrdem Apr 2016 #18
Morning and... sheshe2 Apr 2016 #20
. ucrdem Apr 2016 #21
One of the worst I've seen on DU auntpurl Apr 2016 #12
Yup. Agschmid Apr 2016 #25
Thank you! This group of Americans has ensured their own place at the table by Lucinda Apr 2016 #5
Exactly. ucrdem Apr 2016 #6
It's been odd, watching all these people tying themselves Lucinda Apr 2016 #7
You can say that again. ucrdem Apr 2016 #10
And for many blacks who have vetted Bernie's early history in Vermont Jitter65 Apr 2016 #23
Excellent, ucr.. Mahalo! Cha Apr 2016 #14
aloha Cha ! ucrdem Apr 2016 #15
I'd say.. Cha Apr 2016 #22
Ah, the perfect H . . . ucrdem Apr 2016 #24
I'm honored.. I made it! Cha Apr 2016 #27
Couldn't wait . . . ucrdem Apr 2016 #28
There it is.. Cha Apr 2016 #29
So this article is saying that Basically the AM community is voting for Bill Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #17
Bill and Barack ucrdem Apr 2016 #19
It doesn't seem to make a difference how this is explained bigtree Apr 2016 #26
The supporters of every candidate want everyone to vote for their candidate Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #30
Thank you....That is one of the toxic memes Armstead Apr 2016 #31
if I was using your line of reasoning, no bigtree Apr 2016 #32

Response to ucrdem (Original post)

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
3. The point is that Sanders can't win anything without the base
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 12:18 AM
Apr 2016

so any talk of an Independent or 3rd-party run is basically pitching to the wrong side.

p.s. this is written by a Sanders supporter so don't look for anything too surprising.

Response to JonLeibowitz (Reply #4)

sheshe2

(83,786 posts)
11. Sorry...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:58 AM
Apr 2016

Was going to respond to your post after I did to Jon.....got way laded by another lost soul. Had to respond.

Ya will be here tonight. By the time I get home from work it may already be called.

We will.....



I can't wait!

Hugs~



Luvs ya ucrdem



Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
5. Thank you! This group of Americans has ensured their own place at the table by
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 12:23 AM
Apr 2016

becoming an indispensable block of voters. If Dems want to be elected, they are going to have to pay attention, and deliver on their promises. Full stop.

And while many on the left chose to believe in the "Clintons are racists" nonsense in 08, AA voter after voter has gone one record saying they never fell for it, and didn't vote AGAINST Hillary, they voted FOR Obama, after he proved to be viable in Iowa. That is why they stand with her now.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
6. Exactly.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 12:38 AM
Apr 2016

It's pretty simple when you get down to it. But good luck trying to explain it to the "populists" LOL.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
7. It's been odd, watching all these people tying themselves
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 12:46 AM
Apr 2016

in knots trying to explain away her strong support in the AA community. All they had to do was to ASK any one of the hundreds of thousands of Hillary voters. The folks I saw talking about it on my computer screen were pretty darn clear about it.

But then again, people who bought into the racist nonsense may have a vested interest in simply not seeing how they might have got it wrong back then. Weird times.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
23. And for many blacks who have vetted Bernie's early history in Vermont
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:35 AM
Apr 2016

he comes across as an older white privileged hippie who could afford to take part in some civil rights marches and protests, escape Vermont, flirt with Marxism, never work a regular job until age 40, have a child out of wedlock, live off the state and his wives and girlfriends for a while and never be held accountable for anything. Still be elected to office without having to answer for anything that others would be disqualified for.

Cha

(297,282 posts)
29. There it is..
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:11 AM
Apr 2016

If I had room I do it, too.. it look's really inviting..

I had it for my avatar for awhile but if was so small I could barely tell.. so I decided to go with the



You're Welcome, ucr~

Sky Masterson

(5,240 posts)
17. So this article is saying that Basically the AM community is voting for Bill
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:28 AM
Apr 2016

Those are some long coattails.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
19. Bill and Barack
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:31 AM
Apr 2016

But don't forget this is a Bernie supporter looking for reasons so he might be overlooking someone . . .

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
26. It doesn't seem to make a difference how this is explained
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:48 AM
Apr 2016

...Sanders supporters will still believe they know what's best for the black community.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
30. The supporters of every candidate want everyone to vote for their candidate
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:22 AM
Apr 2016

...and believe the election of their candidate would be good for America.

In 2008, Hillary Clinton's supporters would have liked everyone to vote for her. She didn't get the majority of the black vote.

Would you characterize that by saying Clinton's 2008 supporters thought they knew "what's best for the black community"?

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
31. Thank you....That is one of the toxic memes
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:27 AM
Apr 2016

One of the Republican-sounding memes is this meme that Sanders supporters are somehow "different" and particularly "purist" and arrogant because we have strong beliefs in our candidate and the issue he represents.

As if having beliefs and ideals and political goals is a bad thing.

But it's fine to have therm if you support Clinton.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
32. if I was using your line of reasoning, no
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 12:43 PM
Apr 2016

...but I'm speaking from my experience in THIS campaign, not 2008.

I've never witnessed such arrogance and indifference from a campaign's supporters before. It matches the national trend of revived insensitivity and historical amnesia toward the black community.

The actual campaign has chimed in, as well, with their own brand of ignorance and privilege.

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