2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Supporters Celebrating #BernieBlackout and Possibly Participating
Here is some Screenshots I pulled from Twitter. Not surprising considering the push for the purge here.
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)... but this whole story is just to the max.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and it is not a nice word.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Though I will be reasonable and it is not nice either. I doubt the campaign had a thing to do with this. Even Brock. But this reveals a very nasty state of mind for Partisans. It does bring back fond memories of 2001 to be precise though.
I am sure for those much older than me, why you chose the word, of the Nuxon years.
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)... it shouldn't have to be pointed out just how ridiculous it is. I'm sorry that it had to be.
reddread
(6,896 posts)thanks for correcting the record.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...I never thought I would see you, of all people, laughing about this, when there may be actual kiddie porn images involved.
Barf.
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)I'm laughing at the notion that this was a big bad conspiracy perpetrated by the HRC camp.
What was or wasn't posted on those FB pages is another matter entirely.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)PyaarRevolution
(814 posts)I wouldn't pull that dirty shit, I'm not afraid of Hillary people having their say.
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)People believing every dumbass story they see on the internetz, that's what.
Number23
(24,544 posts)embarrassing story has elicited from the masses. Even trying to tie this mess to cyber bullying.
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JTFrog
(14,274 posts)posts full of propaganda horseshit and right wing sources, not the long time posters who are being harrassed here as if they joined DU ten to fifteen years ago in hopes of someday being on Brock or Hillary's payroll.
Just sayin....
When it comes to this OP... he who dealt it....
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)When I supported Obama in 2008, I thought to myself Renee someday David Brock or Hillary Clinton is going to pay you to troll Democratic Underground. I joined up for that very reason and now I'm busted.
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)But to them, it's normal -- so they can't see it. Someone just explained to me that they are authoritarian followers so of course they enjoy seeing people attacked and crushed. It gratifies and excites them.
Horrible. But at least it now makes sense.
senz
(11,945 posts)justinjuarez99
(2 posts)Bernie Blackout was a massive troll on April 25, 2016 where suspected Hillary supporters (
possibly influenced by a PAC) flooded Facebook with false reports on Bernie Sanders groups resulting in the shutdown of those groups. Its pissing a lot of people off.
senz
(11,945 posts)I don't think a president of the United States should ever be associated with anything so low and scummy.
JonathanRackham
(1,604 posts)Something we try to teach our kids not to do. Teenagers have comitted suicide when cyber bullied. This is something the younger voters take serious.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)There's nothing that authoritarians like better than to see an underdog crushed by those in a position of power.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)We must be very different types of human beings. They both repulse and frighten me. I don't like being around them.
This could also explain, imperfectly, their attraction to Hillary Clinton. I don't think she's an authoritarian, per se, but I do think she is power-mad, greedy, and lacking in conscience -- and I could see why all of those traits would be attractive to authoritarian followers.
It's finally making some sense. Thanks, nxylas.
William769
(55,147 posts)All parents need to do is read what they write to see what to protect their kids from.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)It's like they don't realize human beings have long term memory.
William769
(55,147 posts)Inquiring minds want to know!
frylock
(34,825 posts)William769
(55,147 posts)Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)Check the Facebook pages of:
John Lewis
Gabby Giffords
Jane Goodall
Sybrina Fulton
Planned Parenthood
BLM
And on, and on, and on...
How soon they forget.
KitSileya
(4,035 posts)And whenever we point it out, they claim that it is David Brock, while Bernie Sanders is the one who has demonstrably paid more than $16 million in digital messaging services (read, trolling) in this campaign cycle. They're all about accusing HRC and her campaign of what they themselves are doing - straight out of the Atwater/Rove playbook. The rightwingers are happy to have BS et al joining them in destroying the Democratic party, Trump encourages BS to run third party, and the BS supporters cheer!
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)That is made up bullshit. It's laughable. Brock and his "Blue Nation Review" bullshit have spread this lie, using Bernie's hiring of Revolution Messaging as their big, bad evidence. Total bullshit.
Yes, Bernie did hire Revolution Messaging and they did pay them $16 million for online PR and marketing services.
Guess what? That's what campaigns do. Revolution messaging produced online ads, and crafted online PR campaigns and messaging strategies for the Bernie Sanders campaign.
Revolution Messaging does not hire flack keyboard jockeys to sit around and argue all day. This is a reputable firm that was started by a core group who worked on Obama's 2008 campaign.
This firm won highly coveted awards for their work on Bernie's campaign. They won "Gold Best in Show" and "Gold Best Internet Campaign" for their "Bernie 2016" campaign, at the American Association of Political Consultants Pollie Awards.
I've worked in PR for many years. Both in-house and as a consultant. I have friends who own PR firms and I'm very in tune with what is happening in the business. I can say this for sure--you have NO IDEA what you're talking about.
Talk about nerve! You're the one lying about what the Sanders campaign is doing and spreading unsubstantiated bullshit!
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)then it's the nicest thing they've done all month.
This is chump change, compared to the shit they've been pulling on Democratic voters throughout this primary season.
senz
(11,945 posts)It needs to be recognized by the American people so they'll know what she brings with her.
If anyone has any media contacts, they should send the info and evidence to them. We don't have a lot of time in which to do it.
George II
(67,782 posts)....were looking around for something to piss them off?
Did you do any phone banking today?
Sparkly
(24,149 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Lone_Wolf
(1,603 posts)The only thing he accomplished with this stunt is pushing millennials further away from the DNC and making it less likely they will vote for Hilly.
jillan
(39,451 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)Unicorn
(424 posts)when this is over - and they still expect a unify!
Lone_Wolf
(1,603 posts)I won't be at all surprised if this backfires on Brock. Something like this would make a massive number of people leave the DP. Maybe he wants there to be a massive, organized protest of people changing their party affilation the week after Hillary is nominated?
I don't understand his endgame.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)Getting the Democratic Party to split in two could be the goal/agenda.
They might think it easier for the financial elite to remain in control. Clearly, things are getting a bit restless out here in the U.S., and the millennials and future generations that know how to use the Internet are not going to fall for their bullshit as easily. Splitting the left makes perfect sense to me in light of that.
This primary has been a revelation for many, and maybe they wanted it to be this way.
Canadian Conservatives held control with 38% of the vote. They would not even need to rely on easily hacked computers to rig things as much.
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)while retaining the illusion of choice
bjo59
(1,166 posts)(For the Republicans... just kidding, but his strategy is so foul, it's amazing that even Clinton would go along with it. This bizarreness keeps on keeping on. I'm really wondering if we are going to see a huge backfire before the end of the primary season.)
Unicorn
(424 posts)They're just making sure more people reject Hillary all the way - right though the GE.
senz
(11,945 posts)sheshe2
(83,791 posts)Wouldn't want to be like you either.
jillan
(39,451 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)This is a keeper.
senz
(11,945 posts)Everyone needs to know how ugly and vile her supporters are.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)I am so glad you think Hillary and her supporters are so powerful that we can cause a FB glitch.
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)because more people will unfairly vote for Hillary over Bernie, it's a big scandal
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)I also hope it can be proven that Hill campaigners like Brock had something to do with it -- paid for it or anything else.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Viva Bernie 2016
4 hrs ·
#?BERNIEBLACKOUT for updates follow us at Viva Bernie 2016
Please share this to any Bernie groups you're in. The "online activist" group Hillary's super PAC hired(basically paid trolls) are striking tonight. By spamming the "report post to Facebook" feature on posts in Bernie groups, they've successfully shut down 3 of the largest Bernie groups within the past 20 minutes. Bernie Believers, Bernie Activists, and Bernie Sanders is my Hero had over 120,000 group members.
Don't panic! This should only be temporary until Facebook reviews the situation. Forgetting for a moment that this is easily one of the slimiest tactics I've ever seen in politics. They hit us the night before tomorrow's primaries for a reason. Stay organized and stay informed.
Piss off a SuperPAC troll and donate to: Bernie.To/Donate
Help other Bernie Fans connect to the Bernie Groups you like, trust and follow by adding links or tagging to them in the comments.
Viva Bernie 2016 will keep you up to date on the developments.
Typical dirty campaign tactics by the Clinton Army.
#?NeverShillary #?HillNo #?WeWontForget #?DEMTownhall #?ThingsBernieHates #?VivaBernie #?FeelTheBern
UPDATE
8 Pages that went down were, some are back up.
Bernie Sanders Activists
Bernie Believers
Bernie Sanders Is My Hero
Bernie or Bust
Bernie Sanders for President
Bernie Sanders Ideas Welcome
Bernie Sanders Revolutionaries
Bay Area for Bernie
Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)ffs
TrueDemVA
(250 posts)I never thought I would see the day a "Democratic" candidate would openly embrace aspects of Fascism. This is a sad day. Paying for people to bully others to leave and not be heard because her and her followers are intolerant of other views. Tragic is what this is more than anything.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)But I assume you know that by now.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)I'm sure they got their jollies with their ratfucking, but Sanders ultimately wins because no one in the attacked groups will now vote for Hillary under any circumstance. And most likely even groups that weren't attacked still think the well has been poisoned permanently. The damage control from Camp Weathervane is hysterical...pure propaganda and spin. They fucked up, got caught, and everyone can see the evidence.
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)According to this post it was advocating violence
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)So this should settle the denials that the Clinton side did this. Good, at least that bullshit is put to bed.
And yes, this will backfire. A person with some sense would know that beforehand.
Thanks for capturing the screenshot, NWCorona.
When I get back from voting for Bernie (!!!), I think maybe I'll link this thread and send some alerts on those accounts to Facebook and any I find on Twitter.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)And even though we disagree I still respect your opinion.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)What will they do for a hobby when the paychecks from Barrier Breakers and Correct the Record stop?
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)Sure. Everyone supporter Hillary is paid. Where's my check?
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Will we see you after July?
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)I used to only lurk around election seasons and finally decided to post over the Vatican fiasco. I may stick around. I may not. If the implication that you're making is that I'm a sock or a paid troll, well, we can always bet $10,000 on that if you'd like, since the admins could prove in a matter of seconds that I am a real person and clearly not a paid political shill.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)But out of curiosity, how would the admins prove such a thing? Do they maintain a registry?
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)In fact, I used first used that trick in 2011, before Mitt did, and it sure shut a lot of people up.
Either way, the information I submitted with my profile, namely my email address, could demonstrate in under a minute that I'm a real, and quite verifiable person.
But nice to know you aren't willing to put your money where your keyboard is. Ok, ok. We'll change it to a hundred. Heck, it's a night out at sushi for me.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Knowing that you have an email address and $10k to toss around on internet boasting really doesn't prove much.
Tell you what, $10k is probably off the table, but I'd be happy to trade my car for Correct the Record's vendor list? That would be proof... can you get me that? Someone with your wealth, influence and awesome judgment should be able to deliver, right?
You know, I've wondered recently if boorish behavior is a side effect of being aligned with the Clinton campaign, or if pitiable people (let's use the charitable adjective) tend to gravitate that way.
I guess we've answered that question.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)I don't need Brock or Hillary's money. I have plenty of reasons to not support your candidate, but if it makes you feel better to call me a paid shill, by all means, keep playing your broken record. The admins could easily verify that I'm not only a real person, but that I clearly don't need to be anyone's paid shill. But that would require this site to actually have admins that come here.
frylock
(34,825 posts)nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)More of a mid-level roller who's willing to put my money where my mouth is. Besides, I never make a bet I can't win.
frylock
(34,825 posts)This is comedy gold!
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)I don't think anyone can actually participate in this site and be completely serious. The tone has become utterly farcical. That being said, it can be proven that I'm not a paid shill and I'm kinda done responding to the people who say that since I could post my YouTube channel and you'd still say I was pretending to be that person. #byefelicia
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)... who suddenly decide to post 10x per day, in only two forums, and manage to get 6 hides in that short period.
Such enviable single-minded purpose.
It's really quite a coincidence to see so many similarly focused individuals sign up in such a short period.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)I'm paid $99433493434946459323535232 per post to sit here and argue with you. So please keep it coming. I'm paid by the post.
This whole accuse everyone of being a paid troll thing is an absolutely disgusting way to silence opposition for the record.
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nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)LOL!
Is that the best you got? All these fraudulent accusations of being a paid troll like the one you made, and I decide to put myself out there because of it, and now you've got the moxie to admit you were a liar only to attack me personally?
It matters not to me. That story is crap but hey, it got me in the international news yet again. I said already elsewhere I've been falsely accused of more crap than Hillary has. Well, no, I never got accused of taking down something on the level of Ron Brown's plane, which I keep expecting to fly through GDP at any moment but I bet that Hillary never got chased down by Clown Rights organizations. However, since you're so fascinated by my z-list celebrity, the judge in that story already issued a subpoena for the phone records which will prove that I did not make any such calls and, at that time, I will urge strongly that perjury charges be pursued. At the end of the day, it was aggravating to be sure, but it also put me into printed newspapers as far away as London and Belgium and only increased my bottom line. Then again, given that I've been on the cover of the Wall Street Journal twice for much less lurid stories, and have been featured in numerous television shows and newspapers, none of this game is new to me. You mistake me for someone who can be intimidated by my own PR. I have manipulated controversy for my entire career and have never not benefited from doing so. There isn't a thing I've ever been part of that haven't been able to spin to my benefit. It's why my husband and I are the most financially successful people in the world at what we do, so at the end of the day, I'd rather you call me out for me being infamous than call me out for being a paid shill for Hillary. Like I'd need her money.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Including Democratic Underground, it would appear.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)I'm gonna wear it.
You forgot to mention the bloody bikini vampires and serial killer seminars. Oh yeah, and then there's Charlie Sheen with my own home page on TMZ for the six stories they ran on me.
At the end of the day, I'm going to go on being me, and you can talk about every nefarious and dishonest thing ever said about me, or about any controversial things I've done that I gleefully take credit for, because either way, at you'll be talking to me as me and not just firing back with "paid brock troll," "get your check yet," or some other ridiculous thing.
I am practically a textbook narcissist. I'd much rather you focus on me than on the paid troll that you thought i was yesterday.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)... I can guarantee you I make a hell of a lot more than any paid troll. Heck, I make way more than Sid according to what I read about what the Clinton Foundation pays him. Heck, I nearly skirted the 1% last year and I may actually hit it this year. I pay a high price for what I do, as you have insisted on pointing out. However, the rewards are boundless and I would not trade my life for anyone's.
moriah
(8,311 posts)C'mon, you may be a lumberjack, but this isn't okay.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)I also make more than Bernie, and he doesn't seem to be doing so well at the moment.
moriah
(8,311 posts)As much as I am willing to defend your right not to be called a paid shill, there have been several members of my local Pagan community that have acted in similar fashions, usually people selling paraphernalia, and it doesn't help give our religion much validity when people are looking at the money aspect of a religion.
It's part of why I teach all my students that the only necessary tool in the Craft is the Will.
Now, if you can get ahold of a good chunk of Dragon's Blood incense for me, a friend finally is close to out of the "Dragon's Heart" I gave her one Yule... hah.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)While I do, on occasional, love my little trifles, will is paramount and it is the piece that most of them are missing.
moriah
(8,311 posts)What about the woman who actually claimed to be psychic to a judge?
Now, knock off the stalking, please?
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)But it sounds like he prefers I leave it up.
I'll even do it for much less than...
moriah
(8,311 posts)I would go so far as to call you a master of it, in good humor, if it was actually funny to me.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)The timing is pretty good, because I needed a laugh.
RandySF
(58,900 posts)Since I find it silly to get worked up over Facebook, especially after it was debunked by the site, itself.
jpmonk91
(290 posts)Regardless of how this happened they should not be celebrating. Our right to free speech was violated. Blacking out our groups is not very democratic. As a Bernie supporter I personally would not violate thier right to free speech and to disagree or agree with me. This is just disgusting on every level.
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)Response to NWCorona (Original post)
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