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Karmadillo

(9,253 posts)
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:27 AM Apr 2016

Bernie Sanders Won’t Drop Out, Here’s Why

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/04/25/bernie-sanders-wont-drop-out-heres-why/

APRIL 25, 2016
Bernie Sanders Won’t Drop Out, Here’s Why
by THOMAS KNAPP

Bernie Sanders says he’s taking the Democratic presidential nomination contest all the way to the party’s national convention in Philadelphia at the end of July. Believe it.

With increasing intensity after each primary or caucus he loses — and for that matter after each primary or caucus he wins — party big-wigs call on him to concede the race and get out of Hillary Clinton’s way. Politico‘s informal April survey of anonymous Democratic “insiders” has nearly 90% wanting Sanders out no later than the DC primary in mid-June and only 10% urging him to hold out to the bitter end.

Why isn’t he listening to the 90%? As a Florida Democrat told Politico, “[t]here is no path, and there is no math.” Actually there are at least four paths.

Path #1: Clinton’s health fails in a very big and very public way. She’s had multiple public fainting spells since 2005, including one resulting in a broken elbow in 2009. In 2012, she suffered a concussion and was hospitalized with cerebral venous thrombosis, a life-threatening blood clot condition. Her campaign health statement acknowledges these problems and throws in hypothyroidism to boot, although characterizing the 67-year-old as enjoying “excellent” health.

Path #2: Clinton is indicted in, or otherwise dragged down over, the “Servergate” affair, in which she appears to have illegally mishandled classified information while Secretary of State.

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Bernie Sanders Won’t Drop Out, Here’s Why (Original Post) Karmadillo Apr 2016 OP
Is this nonsense going to be posted every day until the convention? JoePhilly Apr 2016 #1
Yes he will. JaneyVee Apr 2016 #2
He's got to stay on to the convention. Smarmie Doofus Apr 2016 #3
He will be the strongest ever to attend with his delegates, highlighting her monumental silvershadow Apr 2016 #26
The answer to why is simple. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #4
He's said he's in through CA nt firebrand80 Apr 2016 #5
More chicken yodeling. randome Apr 2016 #6
If the superdelegates hold the balance of power Califonz Apr 2016 #7
How disgusting is it to hope for "fainting spells" of a female candidate Tarc Apr 2016 #8
It would be LESS "disgusting" if OP were "hoping" for a male candidate to faint... Smarmie Doofus Apr 2016 #9
Sure, if you could point to anywhere in history where fainting is associated with males Tarc Apr 2016 #14
You believe that in all of recorded human history, no male... Smarmie Doofus Apr 2016 #15
Oh my fucking god, it's a fucking STEREOTYPE we'r talking about here Tarc Apr 2016 #19
Good! But who's perpetuating and capitalizing on the "stereotype"? Smarmie Doofus Apr 2016 #22
You? Tarc Apr 2016 #23
Keep thinking on it. Smarmie Doofus Apr 2016 #24
Meet The Pretzel ieoeja Apr 2016 #17
Please. He was drunk off his ass that day, they just don't want to admit that Tarc Apr 2016 #20
Here's why: Tad and Jeff make more $$. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #10
There are far better paths, called close delegates and a PLATFORM for DEMOCRATS not repubs. ViseGrip Apr 2016 #11
Talking about desperate. Good God. Hoyt Apr 2016 #12
K&R - Clinton is a disaster waiting to happen in the GE. - feeling entitled to happen, in fact. eom Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #13
Clinton is a disaster amborin Apr 2016 #16
I would be all for a scorched earth campaign by Bernie against Hillary from CA to the convention BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #18
He is staying in because he's concerned that Conservatives are taking over the Democratic party. B Calm Apr 2016 #21
Now you all are down to hoping she gets sick KingFlorez Apr 2016 #25
Any possible reason 2 stay in besides "it's the math, it's the math" really bothers you, doesn't it? highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #27

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
1. Is this nonsense going to be posted every day until the convention?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:29 AM
Apr 2016

None of these things is going to happen.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
3. He's got to stay on to the convention.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:39 AM
Apr 2016

Lots more delegates to be selected before then and collectively the delegates decide party platform... which even in 2016 has at least SOME relevance.

Besides... many hundreds of thousands have been working in California and other late-primary states ( not mention sending cash) and they deserves a chance to push the tenets of the Sanders movement in their own states and insist on a dialogue w. the party's (apparently dominant) corporate RW ( i.e. Clinton, et al.)

Senator Senators really hasn't much choice here. And he ain't a-goin' nowhere.... I don't THINK.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
26. He will be the strongest ever to attend with his delegates, highlighting her monumental
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:44 PM
Apr 2016

weakness. She didn't have the grace or humility to spare the party, so this is where we are.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
4. The answer to why is simple.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:41 AM
Apr 2016

No career politician would drop out when it's this easy for them to fill their coffers with millions.

It has nothing to do with winning.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
6. More chicken yodeling.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:44 AM
Apr 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

 

Califonz

(465 posts)
7. If the superdelegates hold the balance of power
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:45 AM
Apr 2016

then it'll be up to Bernie and his supporters to convince them that only he can beat the Republican nominee.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
8. How disgusting is it to hope for "fainting spells" of a female candidate
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:26 AM
Apr 2016

So your male candidate can win?

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
9. It would be LESS "disgusting" if OP were "hoping" for a male candidate to faint...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:42 AM
Apr 2016

... then for a "female candidate" ?

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
14. Sure, if you could point to anywhere in history where fainting is associated with males
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:29 AM
Apr 2016

But since you can't...

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
15. You believe that in all of recorded human history, no male...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:02 AM
Apr 2016

.... human being has ever fainted.

Is that correct?

Unrelatedly.... you are supporting Clinton. Yes?

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
19. Oh my fucking god, it's a fucking STEREOTYPE we'r talking about here
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 12:22 PM
Apr 2016

Not a fucking literal fact for every male or female in recorded history, for fuck's sake.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
22. Good! But who's perpetuating and capitalizing on the "stereotype"?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:34 PM
Apr 2016

>>>Sure, if you could point to anywhere in history where fainting is associated with males

But since you can't... >>>>

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
18. I would be all for a scorched earth campaign by Bernie against Hillary from CA to the convention
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:32 AM
Apr 2016

Go after the FBI investigation, the Clinton Foundation, her quid pro quo deals as Secretary of State, all of it. The Republicans are certainly going to in the general election.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
25. Now you all are down to hoping she gets sick
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:39 PM
Apr 2016

Wow, how honorable would it be for Sanders to be the nominee because Clinton ended up really sick. The sooner this primary ends, the better. This is trash.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
27. Any possible reason 2 stay in besides "it's the math, it's the math" really bothers you, doesn't it?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:47 PM
Apr 2016

No matter how factual. Not matter how principled. No matter how valid.

I mean, I know there's an overriding air of cynicism in Camp Clinton, but come on. There are lots of valid reasons to stay in, and very few to get out.

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