2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Trolls Just Got Facebook To Shut Down Bernie Groups By Reporting Them As Pornography
Now, some Clinton supporters appear to be waging a thought war against Bernies upstart political movement. The first evidence of this became clear on Monday night, when a number of pro-Sanders Facebook groups were mass reported by trolls, triggering Facebooks internal anti-spam/obscenity system and shutting down the pages.
Other unconfirmed reports state that as far back as July, Clintons trolls have been instructed to propagate shameful smear campaigns against Sanders, painting him as a misogynist and a racist that could never be elected.
Seven groups with reportedly more than 120,000 followers have been confirmed taken down. It appears that some have begun to be restored as the moderators undo the damage done by the sites internal mechanisms. Sanders supporters are sharing reports that pornography was posted to the pages and then mass reported by Clinton trolls.
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http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/04/26/hillary-trolls-just-got-facebook-shut-bernie-groups-reporting-pornography/
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)Wilms
(26,795 posts)Wilms
(26,795 posts)I borrowed it from the sig line.
"lol very creative"
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)bwahahaha
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)JTFrog
(14,274 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)LexVegas
(6,067 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)However, theres no proof of any connection between that PAC and this attack, and definitely no proof of any connection between the PACs and the pornography posts, which were likely from unrelated trolls and spammers.
think
(11,641 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)It's what I expected when one is stirring up controversy because they can.
LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)a random group of people who were Democrats. Luckily no important people were denied ballots.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Try to stay on the topic that you started.
Definition of Straw Man: a person set up to serve as a cover for a usually questionable transaction
LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)-snip-
According to eyewitness reports, the pages were flooded with pornographic images in what appeared to be coordinated fashion and then flagged for obscene content, prompting Facebook to remove them.
"We had what looked like a kiddie porn posted in one of our groups today, said Sanders supporter Erica Libenow, according to Heavy.com. "I reported that one. Seriously made me want to vomit.
A Facebook spokesman confirmed to The Hill that a number of pro-Sanders groups as well as other pages "were inaccessible for a brief period" due to the company's automated policies being "applied incorrectly."
"We corrected the problem within hours and are working to improve our tools," the spokesman said.
At least one Facebook user linked to the pro-Hillary Clinton group Bros 4 Hillary was reported to have participated in the attacks.
Facebook has weighed in: Coordinated attack on Bernie Supporter Pages
This is the most disgusting thing I have ever seen in campaign history.
Multiple Facebook pages supporting Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders were abruptly removed from the social media network late last night following a cyberattack.
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According to eyewitness reports, the pages were flooded with pornographic images in what appeared to be coordinated fashion and then flagged for obscene content, prompting Facebook to remove them.
"We had what looked like a kiddie porn posted in one of our groups today, said Sanders supporter Erica Libenow, according to Heavy.com. "I reported that one. Seriously made me want to vomit.
A Facebook spokesman confirmed to The Hill that a number of pro-Sanders groups as well as other pages "were inaccessible for a brief period" due to the company's automated policies being "applied incorrectly."
"We corrected the problem within hours and are working to improve our tools," the spokesman said.
At least one Facebook user linked to the pro-Hillary Clinton group Bros 4 Hillary was reported to have participated in the attacks.
More at link.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/277657-hillary-supporters-take-down-bernie-fb-pages-in-coordinated
http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/04/clintons-internet-supporters-allegedly-using-porno.html
And since Child pornography was involved, I wonder where that will lead.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Spreading rumor mongering bullcrap.
Heavy.com article claimed it wasn't HRC and that the porn were internet trolls.
But keep up the hate!
LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)1965. I have no ill feeling for the guys who hung a friend of mine in 1968. I have no ill feelings for the people who multilated and killed a couple of gay friends of mine back in the 80's.
People are people. So good, some bad. I believe more bad than good though. I fought my fight. I think it was a good fight, a lot better fight than all but one of the candidates for the Presidency. Everyone has the right to vote for who they thing is best, it is sad that some people feel that they can not trust that so they have to massage databases to disallow some people from voting. The problem I have with that is they will laugh and giggle like little school girls at what they did.
But at my age I figure this is my last election anyway. So everyone have fun. I have done my part. I have driven people who hated me for who I supported to the polls. I even drove a white supremacist to the polls once. My daddy taught me that voting and a free and open election is the most important thing in the world. If everyone can vote and be given a free election with no manipulation of the election, those voter will always make the right decision.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Perhaps bitterness? I just wish you'd see the effect your words have on other people, clearly you are not immune to that based on your last post.
Telling the tens of millions who voted for the other candidate that they associate with a candidate who is essentially a criminal, a sociopath and who is trolling the internet is very aggressive! You upset people when you make those implications.
If you consider that DU and reddit are overrun with Bernie supporters who barely let the other side get a word in edgewise (try to "stick up" for Hillary in a popular post on reddit and see where it gets you. Thousands of downvotes in case you don't visit the place. DU is 85% Bernie supporter, but apparently that's not enough? I seem to have to stick up for Hillary a lot more than I do for Bernie, why is that? So I'm sorry if I don't have a lot of sympathy for you at this time. People are saying very upsetting things and then appear shocked when the person they are speaking to objects.
Who are the bullies? Both sides are, and you are participating.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Trafficking in child porn. And it looks like the same group was also tied to the sanders NY rally hate and armbands
Look, at the very least this is reminiscent of 2001. If she wins the WH (just likeTrump) I almost expect Ari Fleisher (clone) making the same argument of watching our words
Yes, the dictablanda is fully here. And if I made allusions to Echeverria most of the board will miss the reference. Ah back to the past
Dem2
(8,168 posts)I don't know who did it, and I won't pretend to. I assume Trumpites having some fun. You assume - it's not even worth thinking about what you are thinking - because if you are thinking what you are implying, then you are no better than they are.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)That you do not remember Ari Fleisher at this point I expect to hear something similar.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)If you have something to say, say it.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)My read is that we are about to enter some really interesting times. Shit like shutting down pages from political opposition is a symptom. Those who never learn from history will repeat it. We are at an echo in time
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Unless I see Snopes change their ruling or more information comes to light, this is just another internet kerfuffle for those who are perpetually tilting at windmills. By the end of the night, the political landscape may have changed so much that these discussions will be essentially mute anyway.
Oh, and you could at least wish me a Happy DU Anniversary.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)And partisans are at the heart of it
Aerows
(39,961 posts)That needs to be investigated due to the entire child porn industry is sickening and subjecting innocent people to that is disgusting.
Or are you going to be like other posters and snicker about it?
That's not "genius" and it's not "brilliant". Posting child porn is an offense subject to prosecution and we all know why.
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)in the hands of RW sycophants
Yes, Investigate - and get it done before the Convention
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)I wonder how long before we hear that she personally knows how to break into iPhones?
puffy socks
(1,473 posts)She attempted to dupe Sanders' voters into maybe changing their vote to Hillary by having her supporters wear blue t shirts.
She counter balanced all the coins at the Iowa coin toss so they would land Hillary's side up.
She sent a mole that Bernie hired as a staffer who then broke into the DNC computer and sent files to other Bernie staff.
She rigged the Brooklyn election in her favor by purging voters in an area she was likely to win heavily due to the demographics.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...have spent months attacking so-called "BernieBros", smearing them and saying that his supporters are so bad, they cannot consider voting for him.
Fast forward to today, when some HillaryBros mount a dirty attack on Bernie-supporting Facebook pages, and now we are supposed to separate Hillary from her supporters?
Ain't gonna happen. Own it.
think
(11,641 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Wow, what a spectacle they are!
I looked up two of them on FB last night. One has a selfie that he took with Clinton. The other has a picture of Clinton as his profile picture.
They aren't too bright are they? Hello...dimwits...we can see your words. We can see who you are!
think
(11,641 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)Facebook admits to the glitch.
Why are you trying to start trouble by making shit up?
think
(11,641 posts)Is that what you are claiming?
So you attack me as making shit up? Seriously....
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Those undated anonymous screen shots are worth exactly nothing.
From Heavy.com:
However, theres no proof of any connection between that PAC and this attack, and definitely no proof of any connection between the PACs and the pornography posts, which were likely from unrelated trolls and spammers.
Do I have to keep proving you wrong all day long?
think
(11,641 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)Many groups beyond just Bernie groups were shut down.
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)or his followers
riiight?
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)How do you attack Hillary's non-existent social media movement? It's like holding a snipe hunt.
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)It is just a random collection of events which have nothing at all to do with any organized group.
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Disgusting disgusting disgusting.
mcar
(42,334 posts)Kittycat
(10,493 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)do you have a linky that proves what the conspiracy theorists say, that HRC is repsonsible?
Kittycat
(10,493 posts)That's one Bernie group saying it was a database error. And there have been numerous screenshots in play of Hillbits reporting Bernie groups, which is how groups get out on temp suspend/review. I'm sure you know that though. It's more likely that's what occured, because that is how FB is set up. For good or bad, but at least they have the review process to put groups back online. Anyway, I'll wait for FB to chime in officially before I pass full judgement. For now, I can only go off of their rules and what I saw happening.
Tactical Peek
(1,210 posts)I don't doubt what the thing says, it's just that feelings are so strong about this, and so many people have dug themselves into such holes by accusing people based on no actual, you know, evidence.
Getting the dope straight from the Facebook mouth might help some people with that.
I don't facebook, but is there a way to link to the statement or comment from FB itself about the database error?
TIA
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)"We corrected the problem within hours and are working to improve our tools," the spokesman said.
Sounds like some pages other than Bernie pages may have been targeted, but someone was deliberately gaming Facebook.
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)and "someone was deliberately gaming Facebook." But who doesn't enjoy a good conspiracy theory? Not me! LOL
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)agency was involved in pages going down (apart from some substandard coding somewhere in the past). "Applied incorrectly" doesn't sound like a random software error; it sounds exactly like what is being alleged: someone abusing the alert system.
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)Trajan
(19,089 posts)But that avatar cross got my attention
Bye
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)"Ohhh! Oh, yes! Bring it! Bring on the conspiracy!"
[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)think
(11,641 posts)Who was behind it isn't.
LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)-snip-
According to eyewitness reports, the pages were flooded with pornographic images in what appeared to be coordinated fashion and then flagged for obscene content, prompting Facebook to remove them.
"We had what looked like a kiddie porn posted in one of our groups today, said Sanders supporter Erica Libenow, according to Heavy.com. "I reported that one. Seriously made me want to vomit.
A Facebook spokesman confirmed to The Hill that a number of pro-Sanders groups as well as other pages "were inaccessible for a brief period" due to the company's automated policies being "applied incorrectly."
"We corrected the problem within hours and are working to improve our tools," the spokesman said.
At least one Facebook user linked to the pro-Hillary Clinton group Bros 4 Hillary was reported to have participated in the attacks.
Facebook has weighed in: Coordinated attack on Bernie Supporter Pages
This is the most disgusting thing I have ever seen in campaign history.
Multiple Facebook pages supporting Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders were abruptly removed from the social media network late last night following a cyberattack.
-snip-
According to eyewitness reports, the pages were flooded with pornographic images in what appeared to be coordinated fashion and then flagged for obscene content, prompting Facebook to remove them.
"We had what looked like a kiddie porn posted in one of our groups today, said Sanders supporter Erica Libenow, according to Heavy.com. "I reported that one. Seriously made me want to vomit.
A Facebook spokesman confirmed to The Hill that a number of pro-Sanders groups as well as other pages "were inaccessible for a brief period" due to the company's automated policies being "applied incorrectly."
"We corrected the problem within hours and are working to improve our tools," the spokesman said.
At least one Facebook user linked to the pro-Hillary Clinton group Bros 4 Hillary was reported to have participated in the attacks.
More at link.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/277657-hillary-supporters-take-down-bernie-fb-pages-in-coordinated
http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/04/clintons-internet-supporters-allegedly-using-porno.html
And since Child pornography was involved, I wonder where that will lead.
Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)Response to LiberalArkie (Original post)
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Dem2
(8,168 posts)in all ways.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Perhaps you need a less stressful hobby?
Marr
(20,317 posts)"Other unconfirmed reports state that as far back as July, Clintons trolls have been instructed to propagate shameful smear campaigns against Sanders, painting him as a misogynist and a racist..."
Isn't that interesting. Exactly the same bullshit narratives that the usual crew harped on here so often. A relatively tiny crew that nonetheless made about as much noise as a group five times their size, because they were *always* posting, almost like they were hourly employees.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)figured out to do in order to lose more votes in the GE. She and her idiot pacs haven't got a clue.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)at posting kiddie porn. That's just beyond the pale even for Hillary supporters.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)resulted from this are harmful.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Tarc
(10,476 posts)Facebook's database has a hiccup and Camp Sanders thinks it's WWIII....
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)That's the disturbing part.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Party rallying around a conservative candidate.
Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)I will never vote Third Way.