2016 Postmortem
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A new Suffolk University poll has found that 19% of Republicans say they will support Hillary Clinton if Donald Trump wins the Republican nomination.http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/25/bombshell-poll-20-republicans-vote-hillary-clinton-trump-wins.html
Even Rush Limbaugh confirms this.
http://www.teaparty.org/limbaugh-gop-will-vote-hillary-keep-power-159284/
Daily Caller) Rush Limbaugh says that instead of voting for Donald Trump, The Republican establishment is prepared to vote for Hillary Clinton if it means holding onto their fiefdoms.
During The Rush Limbaugh Show on Monday, Limbaugh said, The Republican Party is prepared, if Ted Cruz gets the nomination, to not care whether he wins or loses.
Reiterating a question that he received from a caller, Limbaugh said, If the guy gets close to 1,237 but still has the majority in delegates, and they take the nomination away from him, were gonna lose the voters, right? Whats gonna happen? Folks Patience. Patience, Rush. The Republican establishment is prepared to vote for Hillary Clinton if it means holding onto their fiefdoms.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)That's why the Kochs are panicking.
Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)With states like Georgia up for grabs. It will be LEGEND.
LonePirate
(13,424 posts)Double digits in AZ means TX is in play as well. No wonder Cruz and Kasich teamed up.
Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)I haven't seen that poll yet, but I'll be going to look for it now! Thanks!
YAY DEMOCRATS!
SDJay
(1,089 posts)say he may actually support HRC over Trump? I thought I read that somewhere. If I'm remembering that correctly, it'll be interesting to see what type of reaction that generates.
*edit* Here it is:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/24/politics/charles-koch-hillary-clinton-2016/
Loudestlib
(980 posts)tonyt53
(5,737 posts)I have two sisters that are Republicans. Both have said that they will vote for a woman before they vote for Trump - even if that woman is Hillary.
factfinder_77
(841 posts)The poll, conducted by the Wason Center for Public Policy, showed roughly 30% of likely Republican voters in Virginia are unsure whether they would vote for GOP front-runner Donald Trump in the general election if he is their party's nominee.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)griffi94
(3,733 posts)CrispyQ
(36,478 posts)Why would I vote for a candidate that republicans would vote for?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)doesn't he use this as a talking point that he gets more in the polls?
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)But you must remember, it's always wrong when it's "Hillary" getting those votes, but it's perfectly fine if Bernie gets them. I am sure Bernie has had no problem taking all those republican contributions that have come his way. Just like it was to terrible that the super delegates could put Hillary in the WH against the will of Sanders voters, but now the whole plan to get into the WH for Bernie is "stealing" all the super delegates from Hillary that they can. Kind of amazing the way they think.
griffi94
(3,733 posts)it's because she's secretly a conservative Republican neocon neoliberal sell out.
When they cross over for Bernie it's because they've suddenly seen the light
and realize that his progressive agenda is the One True Way.
It's more of that Bernie logic
Hahahahahaha
Samantha
(9,314 posts)When Republicans were asked why they voted for him, they responded although they don't agree with him on all issues, he always tells them the truth.
Bernie also does exceptionally well with Independents.
Sam
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)I remember exactly what you're saying when we had a number of Republicans backing Obama over McCain and others in that race back in '08 as well. Some wanted to be a part of history as opposed to the wrong side of it. Others had a range of other reasons.
And after months and months of Sanders supporters touting the crossover appeal of their candidate with independents of all leanings AND Republicans, your statement rings quite hollow.
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Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)You wasted all that time to sign up and say that? "I'm voting for Trump because he's the most pro Jewish "
Freepers are so dumb.
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)in order to vote...
egalitegirl
(362 posts)Rush Limbaugh says that instead of voting for Donald Trump, The Republican establishment is prepared to vote for Hillary Clinton if it means holding onto their fiefdoms.
Clearly, this is an admission the Republican Establishment and the Clintons are together. Explains a lot of things like Hillary's corporatist stance, support for wars, her alliance with the Bushes and Koch's expression of support for her. This is so messed up.
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egalitegirl
(362 posts)SFnomad
(3,473 posts)egalitegirl
(362 posts)If OP's premise was correct, so is mine. OP used Rush Limbaugh's claim as evidence that Hillary will win and hence used it as a fact.
That said, yes, Hillary is a corporatist ally of the Bush family and she cares more about the Bush family and Goldman Sachs than hard working poor Americans. She is also a warmonger.
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)This may not be the first time you've heard that, but it warrants saying.
Rush Limbaugh is a credible, truth-telling, trusted hero on FreakRepublic. Around here, we know what he is, and it is none of those things.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Trump is a mentally ill human being.
whatthehey
(3,660 posts)Just like there are plenty of Kim Davis style generational "Democrats" in the southern states especially who voted McCain and Romney with nary a moment's hesitation, there are generational "Republicans" especially in upper crusts who can follow a DJIA chart and consider evangelicals crass, and thus routinely vote Dem. Party affiliation for a lot of people is an inherited identifier not a personal stance. It's pretty routine for a fairly matching crossover vote around 8-10% to happen.
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)she will protect their taxes from going up.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)She won't let them down if she captures the nomination and somehow manages to beat the Republican candidate.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)TheDormouse
(1,168 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)Independents go to Bernie 73%, more than will for Hillary.
Bernie is polling much better, and it's a very damning poll to take to the convention, especially when it shows Trump beating her. What is the percentage of people who won't vote for Hillary?
Hardly a bombshell.
whatthehey
(3,660 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)One fair response is "so what is she doing wrong?" Well, not much, by one definition, if she gets elected.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)amirite?
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)I can see that...Charles Koch for one is already on the record with that sentiment.
I'm sure the Clinton camp would prefer that it be viewed as 19% from the lower spectrum of the GOP, but it's not. It's the big money fat cats.
Autumn
(45,105 posts)beedle
(1,235 posts)Makes Bernie running as an independent all the more viable .. if 20% of Republicans would vote for Hillary over Trump imagine what a real anti establishment candidate could accomplish .. and Bernie wouldn't have to promise to reconsider abortion rights, or pretend to be tough-on-crime in order to protect the prison industrial complex .. oh, and far far less stupid wars.
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merrily
(45,251 posts)I bet those same DUers think this is just peachy, though.
Hypocrisy and double standards are really distasteful.
Then again, I guess dishonesty is distasteful and those two are just forms of dishonesty.
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)Buddyblazon
(3,014 posts)I've continued to say she's the best republican in the race. Of course some can vote for her.
immoderate
(20,885 posts)--imm
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)It'll just make Nov all that much more painful.
northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)So many people do not accept this from a Bernie supporter, but this is the best proof of who is a candidate for the right wing. I have said repeatedly that my republican family down south likes Hillary. Sucks for the liberals.
A new Suffolk University poll has found that 19% of Republicans say they will support Hillary Clinton if Donald Trump wins the Republican nomination.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/25/bombshell-poll-20-republicans-vote-hillary-clinton-trump-wins.html
Even Rush Limbaugh confirms this.
http://www.teaparty.org/limbaugh-gop-will-vote-hillary-keep-power-159284/
Daily Caller) Rush Limbaugh says that instead of voting for Donald Trump, The Republican establishment is prepared to vote for Hillary Clinton if it means holding onto their fiefdoms.
During The Rush Limbaugh Show on Monday, Limbaugh said, The Republican Party is prepared, if Ted Cruz gets the nomination, to not care whether he wins or loses.
Reiterating a question that he received from a caller, Limbaugh said, If the guy gets close to 1,237 but still has the majority in delegates, and they take the nomination away from him, were gonna lose the voters, right? Whats gonna happen? Folks Patience. Patience, Rush. The Republican establishment is prepared to vote for Hillary Clinton if it means holding onto their fiefdoms.
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Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)But on DU we know better.
northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)I have now seen Huckabee, Koch, and now these endorsing Hillary. People have berated us for saying she was too far to the right to support...well now the right is proving our point.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)of the millennials and indies.
About 12% of reg. Dems will leave the party as well.
Gemini, this might turn out great. We will have a democracy
with one single party, representing WS and corporations!
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)pandora nm
(63 posts)bvf
(6,604 posts)Where do we attack first?
Proud Public Servant
(2,097 posts)They all live in blue states, so it won't matter that much, but they're all planning to cross over if it's Trump.