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MADem

(135,425 posts)
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 12:33 PM Apr 2016

A Lot of Hillary Clinton’s New York Supporters Kept Quiet About Their Allegiances



....I’ve heard anecdotally from other women who’ve kept their support for Clinton somewhat quiet, because they assumed they were in a minority. On Tuesday I spoke to Bushwick resident Savannah Cox, a 26-year-old writer and researcher at the New School, a famously progressive Greenwich Village university. “As a Clinton fan, I have had to be diplomatic even though I am patronized,” she says. “I am honestly sick of it.” She describes one male friend who offered to speak more slowly so she could fully grasp his point about Clinton’s complicity with the fossil fuel lobby. Cox says she has stopped talking about politics with her friends: “I can’t do it. I don’t want to engage.” (Bushwick’s neighborhoods were divided between Sanders and Clinton.) Again, this is a single anecdote, but it makes me think I’m not alone in being reluctant to advertise my support for Clinton.

I’m a little abashed that I missed what was going on in my own community. One of the most searing experiences of my political life was covering Ohio during the 2004 election, where it seemed as if the entire civilized world had mobilized to stop George W. Bush. I followed celebrities like Steve Buscemi, Julianna Margulies, and Matt Dillon as they campaigned door-to-door, often surprising people who weren’t quite sure why the canvassers looked so familiar. On election eve, Bruce Springsteen performed “No Surrender” for tens of thousands of elated Kerry supporters in Cleveland. I sobbed, unprofessionally, in the press stands. I was sure our national nightmare was over. The next day was one of the worst of my life. People took many different lessons from Kerry’s defeat, but one that I learned was not to mistake a massive, passionate crowd for a majority.

At least, I thought I’d learned it. Tuesday night, I learned it again, less painfully. Brooklyn is full of a certain kind of archetypal Sanders voter—young, hip, highly educated, and ideological. But in Brooklyn as a whole, Hillary Clinton beat native son Bernie Sanders by 20 percent. The borough was with her, even if it didn’t always feel like it.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2016/04/20/many_hillary_clinton_supporters_in_new_york_kept_their_allegiances_quiet.html
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A Lot of Hillary Clinton’s New York Supporters Kept Quiet About Their Allegiances (Original Post) MADem Apr 2016 OP
Most of my friends and colleagues assume I'm a Bernie supporter alcibiades_mystery Apr 2016 #1
People have made that assumption about me and are surprised when I MADem Apr 2016 #6
Not surprising. Who wants to face the haranguing of the VOCAL Bernie crowds? CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #2
Of course a 100K votes were missing in Brooklyn as well. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #3
And both candidates were hurt by it. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #4
Yes, and magically, the "conspiracy disenfranchisers" were able to select MADem Apr 2016 #5
 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
1. Most of my friends and colleagues assume I'm a Bernie supporter
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 12:35 PM
Apr 2016


I think there's more of that than is currently realized.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
6. People have made that assumption about me and are surprised when I
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 12:51 PM
Apr 2016

correct them. At least four times in recent months I've had 'that" conversation.

I never reach out, though--I wait for the assumption to be made and then I indicate for whom I voted. There's just no point in getting into a load of drama.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
5. Yes, and magically, the "conspiracy disenfranchisers" were able to select
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 12:49 PM
Apr 2016

out those Democrats, and by magical osmosis, determine that they were "Bernie Fans" before they were purged. All Clinton supporters were left UNTOUCHED by any election board actions! It's a miracle!

Please.

All reports point to gross incompetence, not a targeted plan:

It remained unclear at what point employees at the Brooklyn office stumbled, or who was at fault. One possibility was that the notices to voters were mailed incorrectly, or not at all. Another was that once the notices were returned, the computerized database that held voter lists was mishandled.

On Thursday, the Board of Elections announced that it had suspended a longtime employee, Diane Haslett-Rudiano, the chief clerk at the Brooklyn office and a Republican appointee. Ms. Haslett-Rudiano’s Democratic counterpart, Betty Ann Canizio, who would, by the rules, be required to sign off on any voter removals, remained in her post. Board officials have declined to say why Ms. Haslett-Rudiano was disciplined, saying at the same time that “no voters were disenfranchised.”

“There was criticism that the voter rolls had people who were dead, and so on,” said Frank Seddio, the chairman of the Brooklyn Democratic Party, who said he had discussed the apparent mistake with Board of Elections officials. “That began a citywide review of who’s on the voter rolls and who should be removed. And there’s a possibility that people were taken off the rolls that shouldn’t have been taken off the rolls.”

It is only the latest trouble of many for the board, a frequent target of elected officials, government watchdog groups and election law experts, who say blunders are inevitable when an organization is run from top to bottom by political patronage appointees and party members, as the board is. A 2013 report from the New York City Investigation Department found that the board was plagued by nepotism, badly trained poll workers and error-prone voter-removal procedures.


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/23/nyregion/routine-voter-purge-is-cited-in-brooklyn-election-trouble.html
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