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auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:00 PM Apr 2016

Hillary supporters: what do you do for a living?

I've read in thread after thread about how because I'm a Hillary supporter, I am automatically part of the corporate elite/oligarchy/1%. I just thought it would be interesting to see how true that assertion is.

I work with children with autism. Before that, I worked for a charity that works with incarcerated individuals with drug and alcohol misuse issues.

My coworkers would be surprised and thrilled to find out they are part of any sort of elite, much less the 1%!

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Hillary supporters: what do you do for a living? (Original Post) auntpurl Apr 2016 OP
Broke plebeian. Is that redundant? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #1
No it isn't. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #5
grandfather... big_dog Apr 2016 #164
My Husband and I have a very small Home Repair business rbrnmw Apr 2016 #2
I was very talking to Mrs. 1SBM about all the work our house needs ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #67
We sometimes travel or he does we have 4 kids at home rbrnmw Apr 2016 #73
To Arizona? LOL 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #80
no not that far rbrnmw Apr 2016 #95
You mean like these? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Apr 2016 #82
Awesome! grossproffit Apr 2016 #134
Do you have a college degree? Advanced degree? Do you come from money? What did your parents Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #3
Yes I have a university degree, for which I paid entirely. Do I come from money? LOL. auntpurl Apr 2016 #7
My questions were straight forward. I just wanted to better understand your Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #15
No worries. Sometimes tone is hard to get across on the internet. nt auntpurl Apr 2016 #19
It sure can be. Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #26
My mother was a housewife until we were old enough to take care of ourselves Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2016 #56
Yes ... Yes (two) ... No ... a Cop and a Junior College Professor. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #68
I have a bachelor's degree. It was paid for by Pell Grants and small loans, so I didn't BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #140
Educator...40 years. Union officer. Sancho Apr 2016 #4
Congratulations on winning the Civil War LastLiberal in PalmSprings Apr 2016 #69
Haha you win jcgoldie Apr 2016 #72
The war of northern aggression? Sancho Apr 2016 #106
My husband is in the Army all american girl Apr 2016 #6
Grocery store manager. Codeine Apr 2016 #8
Hey hey, white trash unite! auntpurl Apr 2016 #13
My old man dropped out of school in the 9th grade and was a stevedore at 15. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #29
Musician griffi94 Apr 2016 #9
Wow, you've got your hands full. auntpurl Apr 2016 #30
Haha griffi94 Apr 2016 #47
Agreed. auntpurl Apr 2016 #49
Exactly. Hillary is actually campaigning and listening griffi94 Apr 2016 #52
An informed voter! tonyt53 Apr 2016 #53
accountant--first in family with college degree asuhornets Apr 2016 #10
If ur asking about general population, many are retired TheDormouse Apr 2016 #11
It makes it easier for you to rationalize us as "other" Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #28
No, it's an objective fact anyone with open eyes can see TheDormouse Apr 2016 #33
LOL@the idea that older Americans are more diverse. Engage with reality, please? nt Romulox Apr 2016 #63
Math. It's reality. Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #108
You really believe that? Bernie Supporters are very diverse! bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #105
They run the gamut from A to B! okasha Apr 2016 #141
Editor Raissa Apr 2016 #12
Reptile rehabilitator? Codeine Apr 2016 #48
I am a home-health and hospice nurse. Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #14
Everyone knows nurses are in it for the buckets of cash and easy work. nt auntpurl Apr 2016 #39
Redundant, i.e. "Stamp collectors: what do you do for a hobby?" n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #16
retired US Army madamvlb Apr 2016 #17
Computer programmer, 30+ years n/t SFnomad Apr 2016 #18
Business owner metroins Apr 2016 #20
Some are paid internet provocateurs. Broward Apr 2016 #21
Actually we're mostly long-time DUers, but whatever helps you sleep at night. nt Codeine Apr 2016 #35
We've been waiting 15 years for this moment! Stuckinthebush Apr 2016 #54
I've been here since 2002 mcar Apr 2016 #123
It's in the mail Stuckinthebush Apr 2016 #130
Yay! mcar Apr 2016 #131
Me, too. okasha Apr 2016 #144
. stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #176
Statistical Analyst n/t Godhumor Apr 2016 #22
Millennial, HR Manager. Agschmid Apr 2016 #23
I own a small business GusBob Apr 2016 #24
I work in porn. HappyinLA Apr 2016 #25
IT, no college degree yet making the most money of my life right now. (Pretty smug about that.) randome Apr 2016 #27
Truck driver littlebit Apr 2016 #31
Wow, sorry to hear that. auntpurl Apr 2016 #36
Thank you littlebit Apr 2016 #42
Ouch! Get better soon! randome Apr 2016 #38
Thank you littlebit Apr 2016 #43
My heart goes out to you. Hope you have a full recovery. Fla Dem Apr 2016 #92
Thank you littlebit Apr 2016 #116
You look after yourself, and get back to "operational" a.s.a.p., OK? Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #98
I'm working on that littlebit Apr 2016 #117
OMG, how terrible! mcar Apr 2016 #125
The company I work for has been really good about it all littlebit Apr 2016 #138
Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry to read this. I hope you're okay. grossproffit Apr 2016 #135
Thanks littlebit Apr 2016 #137
Wishing you a full and fast recovery! And I love how supportive people here are. nolabear Apr 2016 #159
Thank you littlebit Apr 2016 #163
I thought we were all paid by Brock. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #32
Funny, isn't it! auntpurl Apr 2016 #34
I'm still waiting for my check. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #37
I thought I recognized you at the casino. Codeine Apr 2016 #44
I'm sorry, I wouldn't have been able to wave back. auntpurl Apr 2016 #46
Actually, I pay Brock... brooklynite Apr 2016 #143
Red herring much? I don't think that typical Clinton supporters are 1%ers, quite the opposite. CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #40
If they don't think that, they should stop posting it. auntpurl Apr 2016 #41
so is this on thead afer thread mdbl Apr 2016 #60
We have at least one member who boasts about having attended high-price Clinton dinners. CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #61
Not nearly as big a distraction as all the right wing Clinton hate littering up the forum. JTFrog Apr 2016 #96
If the question is directed toward Clinton supporters, it might make sense to post it in her group. CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #97
Lower information voter GulfCoast66 Apr 2016 #101
The fact that Hillary often beats Sanders among lower income voters blows this theory... qdouble Apr 2016 #107
Then maybe they ought to quit defining us in the manner. seabeyond Apr 2016 #114
That's the cool thing about oligarchy. Orsino Apr 2016 #45
I'm a social worker for a non for profit Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #50
Oh, I bet. Easy money, I'm sure. auntpurl Apr 2016 #57
I'm a professional musician. Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2016 #51
My youngest is a music major in college mcar Apr 2016 #127
Tell 'em to keep with it! Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2016 #166
He's pretty realistic about it all mcar Apr 2016 #167
I have no regrets. Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2016 #170
Hedge fund manager and tycoon Stuckinthebush Apr 2016 #55
lol, I hope you have "tycoon" on your business cards. auntpurl Apr 2016 #58
I may just do that! Stuckinthebush Apr 2016 #78
Wow, that's pretty cool. If I could go back I would love to go for a PHD in math. StevieM Apr 2016 #120
Educational research methods Stuckinthebush Apr 2016 #124
Bless you on the Stats bit. PyaarRevolution Apr 2016 #165
Fail to reject.... Stuckinthebush Apr 2016 #168
I've been a court reporter ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #59
Wow!! That's kind of like what my mom did. StevieM Apr 2016 #128
It was kind of a weird transition for me ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #158
My cousin studied music in college. His dream was to become an opera singer. StevieM Apr 2016 #171
Strange how life can take us ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #183
We started with nothing tonyt53 Apr 2016 #62
Good for your both! mcar Apr 2016 #129
This thread proves that it's not just Republicans who vote against their own interests. nt Romulox Apr 2016 #64
Yes, I'm sure we're all idiots. auntpurl Apr 2016 #65
Irrogant much? Because you know what everyone's interested are or should be SharonClark Apr 2016 #84
I would rather someone level the playing field than refuse. Voting Sanders is my best interest seabeyond Apr 2016 #115
Try to be the best person I can be to those around me. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #66
Awesome! I won't go digging. LOL! grossproffit Apr 2016 #148
Goldman Sacks CEO, Saudi royalty and a paid Hillary shill beastie boy Apr 2016 #70
I KNEW IT! auntpurl Apr 2016 #75
Wrong! SharonClark Apr 2016 #88
You, too? okasha Apr 2016 #151
Gosh, what are the odds of having so many royals in one place? beastie boy Apr 2016 #173
And my sister is HM Sophia, okasha Apr 2016 #180
Now I know who fixed Pennsylvania for Hillary! beastie boy Apr 2016 #182
I'm an engineer. NT Adrahil Apr 2016 #71
I'm not a HRC supporter, except by default; but ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #74
I'm a small farmer but... jcgoldie Apr 2016 #76
Accountant RandySF Apr 2016 #77
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #79
Charming. auntpurl Apr 2016 #81
Professional musician- Union member for 35 years redstateblues Apr 2016 #83
Benefits Manager for very large enterainment company. beaglelover Apr 2016 #84
Fellow benefits guy here TacoD Apr 2016 #157
My emphasis is retirement benefits, but do dabble in the other H&W stuff too. beaglelover Apr 2016 #161
I disagree with your opening premise. PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #86
I am a proud supporter of Hillary Clinton.... LenaBaby61 Apr 2016 #87
I'm in IT SharonClark Apr 2016 #90
Poor college student. And yeah, I don't believe that Sanders has a plan to allievate the tuition anotherproletariat Apr 2016 #89
Great post! auntpurl Apr 2016 #94
Another broke college student for Hillary! Il_Coniglietto Apr 2016 #112
"... it takes the will of both sides of the spectrum to accomplish anything"... Ghost Dog Apr 2016 #162
Retired, volunteer time at a food pantry. Fla Dem Apr 2016 #91
night grocery worker bigtree Apr 2016 #93
CEO of Tesla Motors and Space X and married to Oprah itsrobert Apr 2016 #99
Come on, you expect us to believe that? You can't black out CNN! It's in the Constitution! randome Apr 2016 #113
Retired TOEFL teacher (English as a foreign language). Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #100
Retired Marine JennyMominFL Apr 2016 #102
Welcome to DU!! I see that you first registered 3 1/2 years ago, but apparently StevieM Apr 2016 #111
lurker JennyMominFL Apr 2016 #118
Luftmensch OilemFirchen Apr 2016 #103
Freelance writer since 1974 MineralMan Apr 2016 #104
It is not about the 1% jeepers Apr 2016 #109
Sanders bases is to ignore leveling the playing field and only help who you talk about. Clinton is seabeyond Apr 2016 #122
I'm a small business owner ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #110
I am a retired nurse Runningdawg Apr 2016 #119
I'm a freelance writer mcar Apr 2016 #121
Retired military Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #126
Retired special ed. teacher in a title one school DesertRat Apr 2016 #132
I own my own business. I'm part of the evil corporate capitalist oligarchy now. grossproffit Apr 2016 #133
Accountant for a school district Freddie Apr 2016 #136
Jewelry designer. I also publish articles, mostly in jewelry magazines. nt BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #139
I'm a Transportation Planner for the Government in NY. brooklynite Apr 2016 #142
Registered Nurse ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #145
retired senior analyst for a large 3-letter corp DrDan Apr 2016 #146
I'm a clerk at the USPS. nt Chichiri Apr 2016 #147
IT manager. DCBob Apr 2016 #149
SSDI and a small VA benefit. Foster parent. Kaleva Apr 2016 #150
I'm on SSDI. Nt moriah Apr 2016 #152
Middle School Teacher jaceaf Apr 2016 #153
I work for the City of Birmingham, AL... Skid Rogue Apr 2016 #154
Writer.... CherokeeDem Apr 2016 #155
74 and retired. worked as a DesertFlower Apr 2016 #156
Psychotherapist and writer. Two talk-intensive professions. People over money. nolabear Apr 2016 #160
Free-lance proofreader/editor, previous Hortensis Apr 2016 #169
I'm one of those "liberal professor types"... VOX Apr 2016 #172
grad student. adjunct prof. my wife builds guitars for a living. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #174
I'm an adjunct (part-time college teacher) Starry Messenger Apr 2016 #175
My mom was a single mom...with a grade school education Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #177
High school teacher retired apcalc Apr 2016 #178
A retired communication technician, have worked food service, ran a HVAC company and now Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #179
I work for a medical school. I hire people for various allied health fields. Lisa0825 Apr 2016 #181
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
67. I was very talking to Mrs. 1SBM about all the work our house needs ...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:40 PM
Apr 2016

Do you travel? Can I get the DUer Discount?

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
3. Do you have a college degree? Advanced degree? Do you come from money? What did your parents
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:01 PM
Apr 2016

do for a living?

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
7. Yes I have a university degree, for which I paid entirely. Do I come from money? LOL.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:04 PM
Apr 2016

Definitely not. I grew up on government cheese. My mother is retired; her last job was working behind the counter at a drugstore. Don't know my father.

And also, you were not very polite in the way you asked your questions.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
15. My questions were straight forward. I just wanted to better understand your
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:07 PM
Apr 2016

perception of your reality. I didn't intend for them to come across as harsh. Sorry for my lack of communication skills.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
56. My mother was a housewife until we were old enough to take care of ourselves
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:30 PM
Apr 2016

then she finally started working. My dad drove a cement truck. Family of 6. I grew up poor.
After the military (USAF, got out on 4/20/01), I went to college for film/video, but I didn't finish my degree as I got a job in the field that took up more time than I had available to finish school.

BreakfastClub

(765 posts)
140. I have a bachelor's degree. It was paid for by Pell Grants and small loans, so I didn't
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:51 PM
Apr 2016

come from money. In fact, I was very poor growing up. Divorced parents, mom worked in construction (yes, really) and my dad was a machinist.

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
6. My husband is in the Army
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:03 PM
Apr 2016

And I don't work....that's what you get when you move every 10 mins and can't finish your education, or start any sort of career.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
8. Grocery store manager.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:04 PM
Apr 2016

From a long line of dirt poor laborers and drunken layabouts, raised in a series of increasingly-squalid trailers.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
13. Hey hey, white trash unite!
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:06 PM
Apr 2016

The only reason we didn't live in a trailer is because it's hard to get them into the inner city. But drunken layabouts is my entire family tree, basically.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
9. Musician
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:05 PM
Apr 2016

My wife is an attorney.
She operates her own law office doing guardianships and estate planning for
parents of special needs kids.

We have 4 children.
1 is pretty severely Autistic and another has CP non mobile non verbal.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
30. Wow, you've got your hands full.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:11 PM
Apr 2016

We use ABA with our clients and it is generally extremely successful - I don't know if that's something you guys are using.

It's a good thing you're part of the 1% or it might be REALLY challenging!

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
47. Haha
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:20 PM
Apr 2016

We voted for Hillary because we think things will get
a little bit better for us especially if the Democrats retake the senate.

On it's surface I love the things Bernie says, but when you start looking
past the sparkly parts it doesn't hold up.

My wife was always for Hillary but I started out being for Bernie.
Until I started paying attention to what he was actually promising.

He doesn't have any solutions. Just slogans.
He's a 20 year politician with very few accomplishments from a a very small very liberal
very non diverse state.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
49. Agreed.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:23 PM
Apr 2016

Look, who wouldn't be in favor of some of Bernie's ideas? But you need, you know, a PLAN to actually make them work. A plan that takes into account the realities of our congress and our electorate.

I think it's interesting that Bernie supporters post all these pictures of huge rallies where Bernie is giving his same old stump speech, and make fun of the smaller rooms and fewer people that Hillary has at her events. But Hillary TALKS to people at her events. They hash out ideas, she clarifies her positions, it's a dialogue. Not rhetoric.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
52. Exactly. Hillary is actually campaigning and listening
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:25 PM
Apr 2016

Bernies giving a performance.

One is real. One is lights and laser shows.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
53. An informed voter!
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:26 PM
Apr 2016

You are evidently and informed voter that does not get caught up in one-liners. Good for you.

Maru Kitteh

(28,341 posts)
28. It makes it easier for you to rationalize us as "other"
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:10 PM
Apr 2016

But it will not help you grow personally or politically. We enjoy much more strength through diversity than Mr. Sanders' supporters. Diverse. You know, like America.

Maru Kitteh

(28,341 posts)
108. Math. It's reality.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:46 PM
Apr 2016

Measurable, quantifiable. Those who have cast votes for Hillary (being the only supporters ultimately who count) are demonstrably more diverse than Sanders voters.

Hillary wins states that look like the Democratic party:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/clinton-is-winning-the-states-that-look-like-the-democratic-party/

Facts.

Raissa

(217 posts)
12. Editor
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:06 PM
Apr 2016

And a reptile rehabilitator.

Previously I was an animal handler at a zoo (cold birds and Amazon) and a volunteer coordinator for the Court Appointed Special Advocates.

Maru Kitteh

(28,341 posts)
14. I am a home-health and hospice nurse.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:07 PM
Apr 2016

We're just rolling in it over here.

ETA: The first in my family to earn a degree, my mother was orphaned and went to a poor childrens' home at 7, my parents never made it out of the working poor, and further back in the family tree we were depression-era farmers.

CLEARLY the ELITE!!!!!

metroins

(2,550 posts)
20. Business owner
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:08 PM
Apr 2016

Financial technology

Wife is a social worker.

I came from low income family, wife came from upper middle class. I have no degree, wife has masters.

Stuckinthebush

(10,845 posts)
54. We've been waiting 15 years for this moment!
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:26 PM
Apr 2016

The long term evil plan is finally coming to fruition!

Bwaaaahaaaaa haaaa!

okasha

(11,573 posts)
144. Me, too.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:33 PM
Apr 2016

I'm beginning to think the "Hillary's paid operatives" story is a psyops mindfuck. It does seem to be agitating Sanders supporters

HappyinLA

(129 posts)
25. I work in porn.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:09 PM
Apr 2016

For a place that makes/distributes it, on the software dev team. Coming up on 15 years here.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
27. IT, no college degree yet making the most money of my life right now. (Pretty smug about that.)
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:10 PM
Apr 2016

But contrary to the hopes and dreams of the Clinton-Haters, I say raise my taxes all you want if it means helping the rest of the country.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

littlebit

(1,728 posts)
31. Truck driver
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:12 PM
Apr 2016

up until a month ago when an 82 year old man decided to take a nap in the middle of the highway and I ended up totaling my truck trying not to kill him. He lived but I spent several days in the hospital with a head injury. Technecally I guess I am still a trucker. I just can't driver for a while.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
38. Ouch! Get better soon!
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:15 PM
Apr 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

mcar

(42,334 posts)
125. OMG, how terrible!
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:46 PM
Apr 2016

I'm so sorry for what you went through. I hope you can take all the time you need.

littlebit

(1,728 posts)
138. The company I work for has been really good about it all
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:45 PM
Apr 2016

so far. I am just grateful the other driver didn't get hurt.

nolabear

(41,986 posts)
159. Wishing you a full and fast recovery! And I love how supportive people here are.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:05 PM
Apr 2016

Corporate shills, absolutely.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
34. Funny, isn't it!
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:14 PM
Apr 2016

I guess these are all made-up jobs and made-up human beings on this thread. I know I'm definitely making the effort to post lies on DU while I sip champagne in my hot tub in Monte Carlo.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
44. I thought I recognized you at the casino.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:19 PM
Apr 2016

I tried to wave from the sunroof of Lewis Hamilton's car but that damned model I'm dating kept getting in my way.

 

CentralCoaster

(1,163 posts)
40. Red herring much? I don't think that typical Clinton supporters are 1%ers, quite the opposite.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:15 PM
Apr 2016

Would be a nice OP for the Hillary group.

For GDP it just seems like a distraction.

I've read in thread after thread about how because I'm a Hillary supporter, I am automatically part of the corporate elite/oligarchy/1%. I just thought it would be interesting to see how true that assertion is.


DU ain't representative, and I doubt that many Sanders supporters think Hillary supporters are of the 1%.

This Sanders supporter thinks that, nationwide (not on DU), her supporters are largely middle income, lower-information, centrist, prone to celebrity worship, susceptible to advertising and trusting of the MSM.

I think DU members are not typical, I think the community is more well-educated on political topics, especially.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
41. If they don't think that, they should stop posting it.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:18 PM
Apr 2016

I just read on a thread 5 minutes ago a Bernie supporter accusing a Hillary supporter of being a corporate elite.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
60. so is this on thead afer thread
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:32 PM
Apr 2016

or just that one thread you saw 5 mins ago. I never made any assertions about Clinton supporters, other than to wonder why they think she was a better choice. Still wondering too.

 

CentralCoaster

(1,163 posts)
61. We have at least one member who boasts about having attended high-price Clinton dinners.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:32 PM
Apr 2016

But they aren't representative.

Point being, some Clinton supporters might be of that demographic, but not all.

Following up unfair generalizations made by a handful of Sanders supporters with an OP that generalizes Sanders supporters just seems silly.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
96. Not nearly as big a distraction as all the right wing Clinton hate littering up the forum.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 02:33 PM
Apr 2016

But thanks for trying to tell people where they should or shouldn't post.

 

CentralCoaster

(1,163 posts)
97. If the question is directed toward Clinton supporters, it might make sense to post it in her group.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 02:36 PM
Apr 2016

Or maybe in both forums.

But posted in GDP only, it tends to have the appearance of provoking discussion or complaining about DU than simply polling Clinton supporters.

So, there's that.

It's a big board, big groups, room for all, I ain't trippin'.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
101. Lower information voter
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:12 PM
Apr 2016

This is one thing I keep hearing from continually from Sanders supporters. Either that or flat out evil and corrupt 1 per center.

To me this is a hallmark of an ideologue...that anyone opposing me is either stupid or evil. I know this because years ago I thought the same way. No I realize that 2 intelligent, well meaning people can just honestly disagree with no stupidity or malice involved.

I really like Sanders but I think Clinton is a better candidate and will be a much better President.

qdouble

(891 posts)
107. The fact that Hillary often beats Sanders among lower income voters blows this theory...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:45 PM
Apr 2016

out of the water.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
45. That's the cool thing about oligarchy.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:19 PM
Apr 2016

Anone can join, rich or poor, simply by letting the wealthy run things.

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
50. I'm a social worker for a non for profit
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:24 PM
Apr 2016

youth home.

I work with runaway and homeless kids.

Making bank hand over fist for 27 years.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
57. Oh, I bet. Easy money, I'm sure.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:30 PM
Apr 2016

You wouldn't believe how much we bilk out of indigent families with autistic kids! SUCKERS.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
51. I'm a professional musician.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:25 PM
Apr 2016

I also work at a music store part time, selling guitars and what not.
My wife works accounting/billing with a tile & flooring company. Combined, we pull in about $40k/year before taxes (she pulls in about $35k/yr, professional musicians don't make much money). I have a special needs daughter (ASD, high functioning), so I can't work a regular job anymore.

Before that I was a full-time graphic designer/video editor for a local ad agency as well as a gigging musician (at that point, we pulled in around $50k/yr with me pulling in about $30k and my wife pulling in $20k working as a receptionist for a doctor).

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
166. Tell 'em to keep with it!
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:28 PM
Apr 2016

And to not expect to be a moneymaker. It's fun... The life chooses you. But very few actually "make it". I'm OK with not making it. I write songs that I like to play. Luckily, peeps in the area like it, too.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
170. I have no regrets.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:49 PM
Apr 2016

If I had more money, I'd have better gear... But I've learned how to make what I have sound great.

Being a musician is not a choice. It's something that chooses you.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
120. Wow, that's pretty cool. If I could go back I would love to go for a PHD in math.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:38 PM
Apr 2016

I didn't even major in math in college, but I think being a professor of mathematics would be cool. And I was always very good at it in high school.

Would it be inappropriate to ask you what subject you teach?

I see that you are just 11 posts away from reaching your 10,000th post. Congratulations!! I hope you have a big post planned for your big number 10,000.

Stuckinthebush

(10,845 posts)
124. Educational research methods
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:45 PM
Apr 2016

Stats, qualitative methods, mixed methods, research methods.

My advice to you is to go for it. My grad students are anywhere from mid 20s to late 60s. Average age in late 40s or so. You are never too old!

As for my 10k I will probably blow it out in the Hillary forum. I've been around since February of 2001. Such a long time! I love DU and it has become a part of my daily life!

PyaarRevolution

(814 posts)
165. Bless you on the Stats bit.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:27 PM
Apr 2016

I took it and did fairly well and I don't have much of a problem at all with Algebra but...GOD is Stats annoying. I'm talking terminology. I mean I understand the concepts of Stats but it's like when the field was created they tried to find the WORST words they could use to make you understand it. It's like Osmosis. Ugh. I get needing it for my field but GOD is it painful.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
59. I've been a court reporter ...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:31 PM
Apr 2016

... for the past thirty-one years. Before that, I worked in the music biz as a writer for a music industry magazine.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
128. Wow!! That's kind of like what my mom did.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:49 PM
Apr 2016

She was a music teacher who then became a court reporter.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
158. It was kind of a weird transition for me ...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:01 PM
Apr 2016

I wound up having a consulting business with an entertainment lawyer who represented musicians, songwriters, etc. - and quickly realized I was more interested in the law than I was in the music biz.

Over the years, I've met countless lawyers who started as musicians, and wound up going to law school. Several of them actually worked their way through law school by playing in bands.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
171. My cousin studied music in college. His dream was to become an opera singer.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:01 PM
Apr 2016

He even moved to Italy for about 9 months to study opera and work with opera teachers.

Eventually he gave up this dream and decided to go for a career in a less competitive field--he went to medical school instead. Today he is a surgeon.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
183. Strange how life can take us ...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:16 AM
Apr 2016

... in unforeseen directions.

I had a great time writing for a music magazine. I got to interview all of the bands who were "big" at the time (late '70s) - invites to private parties, and always the best seats at every concert. It was wonderful.

But the first time I sat in a courtroom for my first trial, I thought, "THIS is the most exciting place to be."

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
62. We started with nothing
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:34 PM
Apr 2016

My wife and both came from pretty humble beginnings. My dad was a coal miner, and there were seven of us kids. Our home was an old farmhouse that was built in the 1890's - and resembled an abandoned house. It was that bad. My wife grew up in mobile homes in some pretty bad places. I went to college on a football scholarship and she went to college on an academic scholarship, but had to work to pay for her living expenses. I worked every summer in an underground coal mine to have some spending money. We have done very well for ourselves, but have never forgotten where we came from. I own an engineering firm and she is an IT executive. We give what we can to our favorite charities and will never look down on anyone, regardless of their plight.

mcar

(42,334 posts)
129. Good for your both!
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:50 PM
Apr 2016

I'm sure you both worked very hard to gain success in your chosen fields. You should be proud of yourselves.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
115. I would rather someone level the playing field than refuse. Voting Sanders is my best interest
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:33 PM
Apr 2016

taking care of me. Not taking care of the disadvantaged, but those of us that are doing ok. I am voting against my interest giving Clinton my vote, in an economic perspective. Others, then yes, I am voting my interest as she is an advocate for women and breaking the glass ceiling.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
66. Try to be the best person I can be to those around me.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:39 PM
Apr 2016


I have briefly touched on my profession here but don't like to say much. It would make me easily searchable with some of the info I have made public here. No. Not famous or anything like that. Just a specific field with a large internet presence. I am a business owner. Lower end of the middle income bracket.

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
148. Awesome! I won't go digging. LOL!
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:47 PM
Apr 2016

I'm not a nosy person. My mom, on the other hand, has never seen a drawer she didn't want to open. She'd be all up in your profile if she were a poster here.

beastie boy

(9,375 posts)
70. Goldman Sacks CEO, Saudi royalty and a paid Hillary shill
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:43 PM
Apr 2016

There are no other reasons for me to support Hillary, are there?

okasha

(11,573 posts)
151. You, too?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:50 PM
Apr 2016

Exiled Romanov Archduchess here, planning to summer at a lovely castle in the Scottish Highlands with the Brit cousins.

beastie boy

(9,375 posts)
173. Gosh, what are the odds of having so many royals in one place?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:40 PM
Apr 2016

Did I mention a fellow paid Hillary shill who is third in line to the throne of Brunei, a black belt in Aikido, an MI5 secret agent with a license to kill and a Nobel laureate in economics?

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
74. I'm not a HRC supporter, except by default; but ...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:45 PM
Apr 2016

Internal HR Consultant ... and Co-owner (with my wife) of an HR Consulting firm.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
76. I'm a small farmer but...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:47 PM
Apr 2016

My spoiled dairy goats are definitely part of the 1% in their species... does that count?

Response to auntpurl (Original post)

TacoD

(581 posts)
157. Fellow benefits guy here
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:59 PM
Apr 2016

I support Bernie but you're the first benefits person I've come across here.

beaglelover

(3,486 posts)
161. My emphasis is retirement benefits, but do dabble in the other H&W stuff too.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:08 PM
Apr 2016

I like it. Grew up on the consulting side of the business but transferred to the client side in 2010. Every day is an adventure! Very lean department supporting about 11,000 active employees. FUN FUN FUN!!

PufPuf23

(8,787 posts)
86. I disagree with your opening premise.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:59 PM
Apr 2016

I don't believe that because you support Hillary Clinton that you are "automatically part of the corporate elite/oligarchy/1%.".

Of course it is not true of most supporters of Hillary Clinton , maybe 30-35% of total voters until Clinton is in general election when it will be more. Do the math, 35% is far more than 1%.

Your profession and work is admirable.

Hillary Clinton is the Democratic candidate that has the support of the "corporate elite/oligarchy/1%" and is most likely to serve their interests.

One can have a wide array of why one supports or doesn't support a candidate for public office.

Folks here at DU tend to think and be informed far more about politics than the general population of potential voters.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
87. I am a proud supporter of Hillary Clinton....
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:59 PM
Apr 2016

And a nurse, whose not rich by ANY means, and who doesn't belong to the 1% class.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
90. I'm in IT
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 02:05 PM
Apr 2016

First person in my family to get a college degree. Child of immigrants and proud union members. Working in IT lets me afford all the time and money I give to elect progressives.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
89. Poor college student. And yeah, I don't believe that Sanders has a plan to allievate the tuition
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 02:05 PM
Apr 2016

burden anytime soon. (As in, the next couple of decades.)

On that topic, I think many of his ideas would be great if we could just snap our fingers and suddenly have free public college tuition, healthcare for all, and less income inequality. But, I'm a realist and know that it takes much more than a finger snap. In a democracy, it takes the will of both sides of the spectrum to accomplish anything...and even then we have to accept baby steps, while still keeping an end goal in mind. We must elect leaders who understand the way democracy works.

Il_Coniglietto

(373 posts)
112. Another broke college student for Hillary!
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:28 PM
Apr 2016

Maybe we should make a group, haha. I agree with you on Sanders. He proposes ideas that sound good on paper without any realistic plan to back them up (GOP governors allocating funds to help pay for college tuition?? In what world??). Unfortunately, too many of my friends are enamored by this world that he's describing, but refuse to consider how any of this could realistically happen. And no, "the public will rise up" is not going to work. Sanders supporters can't even convince Democratic superdelegates to change their minds, how are they gonna convince dyed-in-the-wool Republicans?

It reminds me a lot of the 2008 election where some people treated Obama less like a politician and more like a rock star. I was and still am a huge supporter of his, but too many folks put him on a pedestal and then helped knock him down at the first sign of adversity. It's hard to imagine anything different occurring this time round if somehow Sanders became president.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
162. "... it takes the will of both sides of the spectrum to accomplish anything"...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:13 PM
Apr 2016

Um, but it appears that your right can go far right and batshit crazy and there is little or nothing real realists nor your moderate left can do about it, for now.

Meanwhile, time runs out, so the river runs troubled.

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
99. CEO of Tesla Motors and Space X and married to Oprah
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 02:51 PM
Apr 2016

Just scraping by.

Living on Steak, Lobster, Caviar, and Champagne. Hard to get good help. The chef, a Bernie supporter, doesn't know when the food is done. Keeps saying there is still time. Steak comes burnt to a crisp. The driver keeps overfilling the tank of the Bentley. He is also a Bernie supporter. He doesn't know when it's over. Our cable guy has blacked out CNN and MSNBC and set up our little pathetic 200 inch 4K Smart TV to tune to the TYT youtube channel only. Our Helicopter pilot keeps following the birds in hopes of them leading us to Bernie Sanders.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
113. Come on, you expect us to believe that? You can't black out CNN! It's in the Constitution!
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:31 PM
Apr 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
100. Retired TOEFL teacher (English as a foreign language).
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:04 PM
Apr 2016

Retirement pension equal to minimum wage. Do NOT own my flat. Do NOT own a car. Very frugal by necessity.

Have only myself and my very modest pension to rely on. Made some serious sacrifices by opting to live abroad as an ex-patriot, but do NOT regret it.






JennyMominFL

(218 posts)
102. Retired Marine
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:13 PM
Apr 2016

Medically retired Marine. 45, Mom of 3. Went to college in my 40's. My husband is disabled. My husband was poor and came from Oakland. I grew up pretty poor in a single parent home. Latch Key Kid. Long time liberal. 25 year survivor of AIDS

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
111. Welcome to DU!! I see that you first registered 3 1/2 years ago, but apparently
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:25 PM
Apr 2016

you just recently started posting again.

Glad to have you here!!

JennyMominFL

(218 posts)
118. lurker
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:47 PM
Apr 2016

I've read here for years and years, especially during the last election. Some of you guys are scary

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
104. Freelance writer since 1974
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:23 PM
Apr 2016

I've had some small side businesses, too, but all were one-person operations. Never made all that much money, but did what I wanted to do, mostly.

jeepers

(314 posts)
109. It is not about the 1%
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:51 PM
Apr 2016

It is Saul Alinskys Middle class, the have a little want mores who fear change. It is those folks who make enough money to give themselves and their families middle class comfort but don't have enough personnel wealth to give them security who are most resistant to change. People who have seen poverty personally and through hard work or education have achieved some level of comfort live in fear of losing that comfort and becoming poor again and as Alinsky said they wont play cards unless they are promised 3 aces.

You can't hardly blame them, but the I got mine FU philosophy is a sure way to lose ones humanity

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
122. Sanders bases is to ignore leveling the playing field and only help who you talk about. Clinton is
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:42 PM
Apr 2016

about leveling the playing field so the poor can make it to where these people you speak of are. So while Sanders promotes making the middle and upper middle class less fearful, he does it off the back of our poorest. Clinton wants to raise the poor to middle class.

And that would be the difference.

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
110. I'm a small business owner ...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:56 PM
Apr 2016

I'm not in the top 1%. My income varies based on the economy. I've never been 1% but I've had some good years. It's not as much of a struggle these days as it used to be but my husband and I definitely don't have the padding that a large corporation has. Bernie scares me because, while I think his ideas about corporations are good, I think he would sacrifice small business owners to achieve them and comments by his supporters here about small businesses have only reinforced my thoughts on that.

The problem is, if you sacrifice small businesses to squeeze more out of corporations, all you are left with are ... corporations. You can see this in places like Washington State, which implemented higher minimum wage laws with no tax incentives for small businesses (in fact, Bernie wants to raise the taxes on on them too). My last two visits to Spokane, Washington saw a city where nearly every business was a chain store or restaurant. Small businesses are not the corporate oligarchs. We also provide the type of uniqueness that offer communities their fair trade coffee houses and organic food cooperatives, as well as your unique places to eat and shop.

I'm all for a living wage. I pay higher than almost anyone else in the French Quarter of New Orleans. It is my hope to go even higher if we aren't killed in taxes. Our management staff get PPO health benefits. We definitely go beyond what most do to keep the great employees we have. But some of Bernie's ideas would leave us dead in the water while corporations would merely shuffle things around.

Runningdawg

(4,517 posts)
119. I am a retired nurse
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:48 PM
Apr 2016

who turned a sewing hobby into a part time business. I was raised in an extended family - grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins all in 2 houses next door to each other. One grandfather worked for the railroad, the other was a green bean farmer. Before they were married my grandmother and her sister had the biggest chicken farm in the county and ran a boarding house for oil field workers. My dad was a butcher, my mom worked for the lumber yard selling paint and wallpaper.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
132. Retired special ed. teacher in a title one school
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:57 PM
Apr 2016

First person in my family to go to college. I worked my way through a state university. My parents are children of immigrants and were blue collar workers. My parents are life long Democrats. Also Hillary supporters.

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
133. I own my own business. I'm part of the evil corporate capitalist oligarchy now.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:57 PM
Apr 2016

I began with $50 7 years ago and now employ 3 people. I hope to add another 3 by the end of the year. I still work around 80-90 hours per week but that's what us corporate elitists do!

Freddie

(9,267 posts)
136. Accountant for a school district
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:12 PM
Apr 2016

I work for the "bean counter" side but come from a family of teachers and strong union supporters. DH sells auto parts, our married daughter is a nurse.

ismnotwasm

(41,989 posts)
145. Registered Nurse
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:37 PM
Apr 2016

My husband is disabled with Multiple Sclerosis. So no, we are not part of the "elite"

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
146. retired senior analyst for a large 3-letter corp
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:39 PM
Apr 2016

spent the last 13 years doing statistical analyses on a single very large account

worked from home - loved my job (that no one else wanted) - was 100% free to take my efforts where I felt they were needed

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
149. IT manager.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:48 PM
Apr 2016

I dont feel part of the elite/oligrachy.. in fact I feel like just another brick in the wall.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
169. Free-lance proofreader/editor, previous
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:45 PM
Apr 2016

real estate appraiser until the confluence of worsened autoimmune disorder and real estate crash forced change. Four-year degree from community and state "commuter" colleges, married and children, and finished up after a few years.

With a mother suffering from severe clinical depression, we were so poor when I was a child that we were often homeless, dropped out of high school to work full time to support myself, but turning 17 in an era of fairly plentiful, adequately paying jobs in a state with low, subsidized local and state college tuition rates was all the luck I needed to move on to a very different adult life.

Looking back from today's very different reality, I realize I was indeed very fortunate. From my viewpoint then, it was an era of almost seamless social mobility.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
175. I'm an adjunct (part-time college teacher)
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:52 PM
Apr 2016

I also work as a part-time labor organizer for my union. If I wasn't married to someone with enough income to help cover rent in the Bay Area, I'd have to live in my truck.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
177. My mom was a single mom...with a grade school education
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:00 PM
Apr 2016

we survived on food stamps for many years.
English is not our first language.
My father skipped when I was 4: he supported the GOP until his dying day.
But couldn't bother to pay child support

I got scholarships to the best university in my state.
I studied a technical field paying my own way with student loans and summer jobs.
I found a job a year after graduating in the worse job market in the last 40 years.
I'm a woman so my pay has always been <80% of men with similar skills.

College students today graduating from similar schools in similar fields have starting salaries higher than my salary after 30+ years of working.

My husband is a college dropout.
He and I have been working since we were 16.
Even today I work 60+ hours weeks and for most of the last year its closer to 80 hours a week.

So yeah, it was all handed to us.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
179. A retired communication technician, have worked food service, ran a HVAC company and now
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:04 PM
Apr 2016

a security officer, was a 31 year job steward, life long democrat.

Lisa0825

(14,487 posts)
181. I work for a medical school. I hire people for various allied health fields.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:19 PM
Apr 2016

I hire technologists in Radiology/CT/US/MRI, Pharmacists/techs, PT/OT, and Clinial Lab Scientists, among others.

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