2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary supporters: what do you do for a living?
I've read in thread after thread about how because I'm a Hillary supporter, I am automatically part of the corporate elite/oligarchy/1%. I just thought it would be interesting to see how true that assertion is.
I work with children with autism. Before that, I worked for a charity that works with incarcerated individuals with drug and alcohol misuse issues.
My coworkers would be surprised and thrilled to find out they are part of any sort of elite, much less the 1%!
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Clinton's were "dead broke" in 2001 and they are not considered to be plebes.
big_dog
(4,144 posts)and global foundation director
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Do you travel? Can I get the DUer Discount?
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,586 posts)You said you had a small home repair business.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Good for you and the Mr.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)do for a living?
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Definitely not. I grew up on government cheese. My mother is retired; her last job was working behind the counter at a drugstore. Don't know my father.
And also, you were not very polite in the way you asked your questions.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)perception of your reality. I didn't intend for them to come across as harsh. Sorry for my lack of communication skills.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)then she finally started working. My dad drove a cement truck. Family of 6. I grew up poor.
After the military (USAF, got out on 4/20/01), I went to college for film/video, but I didn't finish my degree as I got a job in the field that took up more time than I had available to finish school.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)BreakfastClub
(765 posts)come from money. In fact, I was very poor growing up. Divorced parents, mom worked in construction (yes, really) and my dad was a machinist.
Sancho
(9,070 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,586 posts)jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)smartass
Sancho
(9,070 posts)all american girl
(1,788 posts)And I don't work....that's what you get when you move every 10 mins and can't finish your education, or start any sort of career.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)From a long line of dirt poor laborers and drunken layabouts, raised in a series of increasingly-squalid trailers.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)The only reason we didn't live in a trailer is because it's hard to get them into the inner city. But drunken layabouts is my entire family tree, basically.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)griffi94
(3,733 posts)My wife is an attorney.
She operates her own law office doing guardianships and estate planning for
parents of special needs kids.
We have 4 children.
1 is pretty severely Autistic and another has CP non mobile non verbal.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)We use ABA with our clients and it is generally extremely successful - I don't know if that's something you guys are using.
It's a good thing you're part of the 1% or it might be REALLY challenging!
We voted for Hillary because we think things will get
a little bit better for us especially if the Democrats retake the senate.
On it's surface I love the things Bernie says, but when you start looking
past the sparkly parts it doesn't hold up.
My wife was always for Hillary but I started out being for Bernie.
Until I started paying attention to what he was actually promising.
He doesn't have any solutions. Just slogans.
He's a 20 year politician with very few accomplishments from a a very small very liberal
very non diverse state.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Look, who wouldn't be in favor of some of Bernie's ideas? But you need, you know, a PLAN to actually make them work. A plan that takes into account the realities of our congress and our electorate.
I think it's interesting that Bernie supporters post all these pictures of huge rallies where Bernie is giving his same old stump speech, and make fun of the smaller rooms and fewer people that Hillary has at her events. But Hillary TALKS to people at her events. They hash out ideas, she clarifies her positions, it's a dialogue. Not rhetoric.
griffi94
(3,733 posts)Bernies giving a performance.
One is real. One is lights and laser shows.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)You are evidently and informed voter that does not get caught up in one-liners. Good for you.
asuhornets
(2,405 posts)TheDormouse
(1,168 posts)They ain't Millennials, that's for sure.
Maru Kitteh
(28,341 posts)But it will not help you grow personally or politically. We enjoy much more strength through diversity than Mr. Sanders' supporters. Diverse. You know, like America.
TheDormouse
(1,168 posts)Romulox
(25,960 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,341 posts)Measurable, quantifiable. Those who have cast votes for Hillary (being the only supporters ultimately who count) are demonstrably more diverse than Sanders voters.
Hillary wins states that look like the Democratic party:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/clinton-is-winning-the-states-that-look-like-the-democratic-party/
Facts.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)okasha
(11,573 posts)And a reptile rehabilitator.
Previously I was an animal handler at a zoo (cold birds and Amazon) and a volunteer coordinator for the Court Appointed Special Advocates.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)That sounds fascinating!
Maru Kitteh
(28,341 posts)We're just rolling in it over here.
ETA: The first in my family to earn a degree, my mother was orphaned and went to a poor childrens' home at 7, my parents never made it out of the working poor, and further back in the family tree we were depression-era farmers.
CLEARLY the ELITE!!!!!
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)madamvlb
(495 posts)SFnomad
(3,473 posts)metroins
(2,550 posts)Financial technology
Wife is a social worker.
I came from low income family, wife came from upper middle class. I have no degree, wife has masters.
Broward
(1,976 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)Stuckinthebush
(10,845 posts)The long term evil plan is finally coming to fruition!
Bwaaaahaaaaa haaaa!
mcar
(42,334 posts)Still waiting for my paycheck.
Stuckinthebush
(10,845 posts)Big check!
mcar
(42,334 posts)Maybe I can get my car fixed!
I'm beginning to think the "Hillary's paid operatives" story is a psyops mindfuck. It does seem to be agitating Sanders supporters
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)Godhumor
(6,437 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)GusBob
(7,286 posts)but I spend the vast majority of my time volunteering
HappyinLA
(129 posts)For a place that makes/distributes it, on the software dev team. Coming up on 15 years here.
randome
(34,845 posts)But contrary to the hopes and dreams of the Clinton-Haters, I say raise my taxes all you want if it means helping the rest of the country.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]
littlebit
(1,728 posts)up until a month ago when an 82 year old man decided to take a nap in the middle of the highway and I ended up totaling my truck trying not to kill him. He lived but I spent several days in the hospital with a head injury. Technecally I guess I am still a trucker. I just can't driver for a while.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Hope you get back to full recovery soon.
littlebit
(1,728 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]
littlebit
(1,728 posts)Fla Dem
(23,690 posts)littlebit
(1,728 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)littlebit
(1,728 posts)mcar
(42,334 posts)I'm so sorry for what you went through. I hope you can take all the time you need.
littlebit
(1,728 posts)so far. I am just grateful the other driver didn't get hurt.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)littlebit
(1,728 posts)I'm getting a little better each day.
nolabear
(41,986 posts)Corporate shills, absolutely.
littlebit
(1,728 posts)Now that I think about it you are right it is kind of funny.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)I guess these are all made-up jobs and made-up human beings on this thread. I know I'm definitely making the effort to post lies on DU while I sip champagne in my hot tub in Monte Carlo.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)I tried to wave from the sunroof of Lewis Hamilton's car but that damned model I'm dating kept getting in my way.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)I have people who do my waving for me.
brooklynite
(94,595 posts)...American Bridge is one of the best GOP oppo research groups around.
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)Would be a nice OP for the Hillary group.
For GDP it just seems like a distraction.
DU ain't representative, and I doubt that many Sanders supporters think Hillary supporters are of the 1%.
This Sanders supporter thinks that, nationwide (not on DU), her supporters are largely middle income, lower-information, centrist, prone to celebrity worship, susceptible to advertising and trusting of the MSM.
I think DU members are not typical, I think the community is more well-educated on political topics, especially.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)I just read on a thread 5 minutes ago a Bernie supporter accusing a Hillary supporter of being a corporate elite.
mdbl
(4,973 posts)or just that one thread you saw 5 mins ago. I never made any assertions about Clinton supporters, other than to wonder why they think she was a better choice. Still wondering too.
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)But they aren't representative.
Point being, some Clinton supporters might be of that demographic, but not all.
Following up unfair generalizations made by a handful of Sanders supporters with an OP that generalizes Sanders supporters just seems silly.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)But thanks for trying to tell people where they should or shouldn't post.
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)Or maybe in both forums.
But posted in GDP only, it tends to have the appearance of provoking discussion or complaining about DU than simply polling Clinton supporters.
So, there's that.
It's a big board, big groups, room for all, I ain't trippin'.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)This is one thing I keep hearing from continually from Sanders supporters. Either that or flat out evil and corrupt 1 per center.
To me this is a hallmark of an ideologue...that anyone opposing me is either stupid or evil. I know this because years ago I thought the same way. No I realize that 2 intelligent, well meaning people can just honestly disagree with no stupidity or malice involved.
I really like Sanders but I think Clinton is a better candidate and will be a much better President.
qdouble
(891 posts)out of the water.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Last edited Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:38 PM - Edit history (1)
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Anone can join, rich or poor, simply by letting the wealthy run things.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)youth home.
I work with runaway and homeless kids.
Making bank hand over fist for 27 years.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)You wouldn't believe how much we bilk out of indigent families with autistic kids! SUCKERS.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)I also work at a music store part time, selling guitars and what not.
My wife works accounting/billing with a tile & flooring company. Combined, we pull in about $40k/year before taxes (she pulls in about $35k/yr, professional musicians don't make much money). I have a special needs daughter (ASD, high functioning), so I can't work a regular job anymore.
Before that I was a full-time graphic designer/video editor for a local ad agency as well as a gigging musician (at that point, we pulled in around $50k/yr with me pulling in about $30k and my wife pulling in $20k working as a receptionist for a doctor).
mcar
(42,334 posts)Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)And to not expect to be a moneymaker. It's fun... The life chooses you. But very few actually "make it". I'm OK with not making it. I write songs that I like to play. Luckily, peeps in the area like it, too.
mcar
(42,334 posts)Thanks!
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)If I had more money, I'd have better gear... But I've learned how to make what I have sound great.
Being a musician is not a choice. It's something that chooses you.
Stuckinthebush
(10,845 posts)Just kidding.
Professor
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Stuckinthebush
(10,845 posts)Does a tycoon HAVE to be rich?
StevieM
(10,500 posts)I didn't even major in math in college, but I think being a professor of mathematics would be cool. And I was always very good at it in high school.
Would it be inappropriate to ask you what subject you teach?
I see that you are just 11 posts away from reaching your 10,000th post. Congratulations!! I hope you have a big post planned for your big number 10,000.
Stuckinthebush
(10,845 posts)Stats, qualitative methods, mixed methods, research methods.
My advice to you is to go for it. My grad students are anywhere from mid 20s to late 60s. Average age in late 40s or so. You are never too old!
As for my 10k I will probably blow it out in the Hillary forum. I've been around since February of 2001. Such a long time! I love DU and it has become a part of my daily life!
PyaarRevolution
(814 posts)I took it and did fairly well and I don't have much of a problem at all with Algebra but...GOD is Stats annoying. I'm talking terminology. I mean I understand the concepts of Stats but it's like when the field was created they tried to find the WORST words they could use to make you understand it. It's like Osmosis. Ugh. I get needing it for my field but GOD is it painful.
Stuckinthebush
(10,845 posts)You are correct! It can be maddening but I love it!
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)... for the past thirty-one years. Before that, I worked in the music biz as a writer for a music industry magazine.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)She was a music teacher who then became a court reporter.
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)I wound up having a consulting business with an entertainment lawyer who represented musicians, songwriters, etc. - and quickly realized I was more interested in the law than I was in the music biz.
Over the years, I've met countless lawyers who started as musicians, and wound up going to law school. Several of them actually worked their way through law school by playing in bands.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)He even moved to Italy for about 9 months to study opera and work with opera teachers.
Eventually he gave up this dream and decided to go for a career in a less competitive field--he went to medical school instead. Today he is a surgeon.
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)... in unforeseen directions.
I had a great time writing for a music magazine. I got to interview all of the bands who were "big" at the time (late '70s) - invites to private parties, and always the best seats at every concert. It was wonderful.
But the first time I sat in a courtroom for my first trial, I thought, "THIS is the most exciting place to be."
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)My wife and both came from pretty humble beginnings. My dad was a coal miner, and there were seven of us kids. Our home was an old farmhouse that was built in the 1890's - and resembled an abandoned house. It was that bad. My wife grew up in mobile homes in some pretty bad places. I went to college on a football scholarship and she went to college on an academic scholarship, but had to work to pay for her living expenses. I worked every summer in an underground coal mine to have some spending money. We have done very well for ourselves, but have never forgotten where we came from. I own an engineering firm and she is an IT executive. We give what we can to our favorite charities and will never look down on anyone, regardless of their plight.
mcar
(42,334 posts)I'm sure you both worked very hard to gain success in your chosen fields. You should be proud of yourselves.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)There, there.
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)taking care of me. Not taking care of the disadvantaged, but those of us that are doing ok. I am voting against my interest giving Clinton my vote, in an economic perspective. Others, then yes, I am voting my interest as she is an advocate for women and breaking the glass ceiling.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I have briefly touched on my profession here but don't like to say much. It would make me easily searchable with some of the info I have made public here. No. Not famous or anything like that. Just a specific field with a large internet presence. I am a business owner. Lower end of the middle income bracket.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)I'm not a nosy person. My mom, on the other hand, has never seen a drawer she didn't want to open. She'd be all up in your profile if she were a poster here.
beastie boy
(9,375 posts)There are no other reasons for me to support Hillary, are there?
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)SharonClark
(10,014 posts)okasha
(11,573 posts)Exiled Romanov Archduchess here, planning to summer at a lovely castle in the Scottish Highlands with the Brit cousins.
beastie boy
(9,375 posts)Did I mention a fellow paid Hillary shill who is third in line to the throne of Brunei, a black belt in Aikido, an MI5 secret agent with a license to kill and a Nobel laureate in economics?
okasha
(11,573 posts)Queen Dowager of Transylvania.
beastie boy
(9,375 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Internal HR Consultant ... and Co-owner (with my wife) of an HR Consulting firm.
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)My spoiled dairy goats are definitely part of the 1% in their species... does that count?
RandySF
(58,899 posts)And I earn far less than the techies who support Bernie and gentrify the Bay Area.
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auntpurl
(4,311 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)beaglelover
(3,486 posts)TacoD
(581 posts)I support Bernie but you're the first benefits person I've come across here.
beaglelover
(3,486 posts)I like it. Grew up on the consulting side of the business but transferred to the client side in 2010. Every day is an adventure! Very lean department supporting about 11,000 active employees. FUN FUN FUN!!
PufPuf23
(8,787 posts)I don't believe that because you support Hillary Clinton that you are "automatically part of the corporate elite/oligarchy/1%.".
Of course it is not true of most supporters of Hillary Clinton , maybe 30-35% of total voters until Clinton is in general election when it will be more. Do the math, 35% is far more than 1%.
Your profession and work is admirable.
Hillary Clinton is the Democratic candidate that has the support of the "corporate elite/oligarchy/1%" and is most likely to serve their interests.
One can have a wide array of why one supports or doesn't support a candidate for public office.
Folks here at DU tend to think and be informed far more about politics than the general population of potential voters.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)And a nurse, whose not rich by ANY means, and who doesn't belong to the 1% class.
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)First person in my family to get a college degree. Child of immigrants and proud union members. Working in IT lets me afford all the time and money I give to elect progressives.
anotherproletariat
(1,446 posts)burden anytime soon. (As in, the next couple of decades.)
On that topic, I think many of his ideas would be great if we could just snap our fingers and suddenly have free public college tuition, healthcare for all, and less income inequality. But, I'm a realist and know that it takes much more than a finger snap. In a democracy, it takes the will of both sides of the spectrum to accomplish anything...and even then we have to accept baby steps, while still keeping an end goal in mind. We must elect leaders who understand the way democracy works.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Just right on.
Il_Coniglietto
(373 posts)Maybe we should make a group, haha. I agree with you on Sanders. He proposes ideas that sound good on paper without any realistic plan to back them up (GOP governors allocating funds to help pay for college tuition?? In what world??). Unfortunately, too many of my friends are enamored by this world that he's describing, but refuse to consider how any of this could realistically happen. And no, "the public will rise up" is not going to work. Sanders supporters can't even convince Democratic superdelegates to change their minds, how are they gonna convince dyed-in-the-wool Republicans?
It reminds me a lot of the 2008 election where some people treated Obama less like a politician and more like a rock star. I was and still am a huge supporter of his, but too many folks put him on a pedestal and then helped knock him down at the first sign of adversity. It's hard to imagine anything different occurring this time round if somehow Sanders became president.
Ghost Dog
(16,881 posts)Um, but it appears that your right can go far right and batshit crazy and there is little or nothing real realists nor your moderate left can do about it, for now.
Meanwhile, time runs out, so the river runs troubled.
Fla Dem
(23,690 posts)bigtree
(85,998 posts)...aka/wealthy elite.
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)Just scraping by.
Living on Steak, Lobster, Caviar, and Champagne. Hard to get good help. The chef, a Bernie supporter, doesn't know when the food is done. Keeps saying there is still time. Steak comes burnt to a crisp. The driver keeps overfilling the tank of the Bentley. He is also a Bernie supporter. He doesn't know when it's over. Our cable guy has blacked out CNN and MSNBC and set up our little pathetic 200 inch 4K Smart TV to tune to the TYT youtube channel only. Our Helicopter pilot keeps following the birds in hopes of them leading us to Bernie Sanders.
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Retirement pension equal to minimum wage. Do NOT own my flat. Do NOT own a car. Very frugal by necessity.
Have only myself and my very modest pension to rely on. Made some serious sacrifices by opting to live abroad as an ex-patriot, but do NOT regret it.
JennyMominFL
(218 posts)Medically retired Marine. 45, Mom of 3. Went to college in my 40's. My husband is disabled. My husband was poor and came from Oakland. I grew up pretty poor in a single parent home. Latch Key Kid. Long time liberal. 25 year survivor of AIDS
StevieM
(10,500 posts)you just recently started posting again.
Glad to have you here!!
JennyMominFL
(218 posts)I've read here for years and years, especially during the last election. Some of you guys are scary
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)Trained by my paternal grandfather.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)I've had some small side businesses, too, but all were one-person operations. Never made all that much money, but did what I wanted to do, mostly.
jeepers
(314 posts)It is Saul Alinskys Middle class, the have a little want mores who fear change. It is those folks who make enough money to give themselves and their families middle class comfort but don't have enough personnel wealth to give them security who are most resistant to change. People who have seen poverty personally and through hard work or education have achieved some level of comfort live in fear of losing that comfort and becoming poor again and as Alinsky said they wont play cards unless they are promised 3 aces.
You can't hardly blame them, but the I got mine FU philosophy is a sure way to lose ones humanity
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)about leveling the playing field so the poor can make it to where these people you speak of are. So while Sanders promotes making the middle and upper middle class less fearful, he does it off the back of our poorest. Clinton wants to raise the poor to middle class.
And that would be the difference.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)I'm not in the top 1%. My income varies based on the economy. I've never been 1% but I've had some good years. It's not as much of a struggle these days as it used to be but my husband and I definitely don't have the padding that a large corporation has. Bernie scares me because, while I think his ideas about corporations are good, I think he would sacrifice small business owners to achieve them and comments by his supporters here about small businesses have only reinforced my thoughts on that.
The problem is, if you sacrifice small businesses to squeeze more out of corporations, all you are left with are ... corporations. You can see this in places like Washington State, which implemented higher minimum wage laws with no tax incentives for small businesses (in fact, Bernie wants to raise the taxes on on them too). My last two visits to Spokane, Washington saw a city where nearly every business was a chain store or restaurant. Small businesses are not the corporate oligarchs. We also provide the type of uniqueness that offer communities their fair trade coffee houses and organic food cooperatives, as well as your unique places to eat and shop.
I'm all for a living wage. I pay higher than almost anyone else in the French Quarter of New Orleans. It is my hope to go even higher if we aren't killed in taxes. Our management staff get PPO health benefits. We definitely go beyond what most do to keep the great employees we have. But some of Bernie's ideas would leave us dead in the water while corporations would merely shuffle things around.
Runningdawg
(4,517 posts)who turned a sewing hobby into a part time business. I was raised in an extended family - grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins all in 2 houses next door to each other. One grandfather worked for the railroad, the other was a green bean farmer. Before they were married my grandmother and her sister had the biggest chicken farm in the county and ran a boarding house for oil field workers. My dad was a butcher, my mom worked for the lumber yard selling paint and wallpaper.
mcar
(42,334 posts)SO Is a public school teacher. No 1% here.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Retired technical writer
Working poet and short story author
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)First person in my family to go to college. I worked my way through a state university. My parents are children of immigrants and were blue collar workers. My parents are life long Democrats. Also Hillary supporters.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)I began with $50 7 years ago and now employ 3 people. I hope to add another 3 by the end of the year. I still work around 80-90 hours per week but that's what us corporate elitists do!
Freddie
(9,267 posts)I work for the "bean counter" side but come from a family of teachers and strong union supporters. DH sells auto parts, our married daughter is a nurse.
BreakfastClub
(765 posts)brooklynite
(94,595 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,989 posts)My husband is disabled with Multiple Sclerosis. So no, we are not part of the "elite"
DrDan
(20,411 posts)spent the last 13 years doing statistical analyses on a single very large account
worked from home - loved my job (that no one else wanted) - was 100% free to take my efforts where I felt they were needed
Chichiri
(4,667 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)I dont feel part of the elite/oligrachy.. in fact I feel like just another brick in the wall.
Kaleva
(36,309 posts)moriah
(8,311 posts)jaceaf
(89 posts)Skid Rogue
(711 posts)My Partner works at the local VA Hospital.
CherokeeDem
(3,709 posts)and human resource consultant.... employee relation...
DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)legal secretary.
nolabear
(41,986 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)real estate appraiser until the confluence of worsened autoimmune disorder and real estate crash forced change. Four-year degree from community and state "commuter" colleges, married and children, and finished up after a few years.
With a mother suffering from severe clinical depression, we were so poor when I was a child that we were often homeless, dropped out of high school to work full time to support myself, but turning 17 in an era of fairly plentiful, adequately paying jobs in a state with low, subsidized local and state college tuition rates was all the luck I needed to move on to a very different adult life.
Looking back from today's very different reality, I realize I was indeed very fortunate. From my viewpoint then, it was an era of almost seamless social mobility.
VOX
(22,976 posts)At a major West Coast university.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)I also work as a part-time labor organizer for my union. If I wasn't married to someone with enough income to help cover rent in the Bay Area, I'd have to live in my truck.
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)we survived on food stamps for many years.
English is not our first language.
My father skipped when I was 4: he supported the GOP until his dying day.
But couldn't bother to pay child support
I got scholarships to the best university in my state.
I studied a technical field paying my own way with student loans and summer jobs.
I found a job a year after graduating in the worse job market in the last 40 years.
I'm a woman so my pay has always been <80% of men with similar skills.
College students today graduating from similar schools in similar fields have starting salaries higher than my salary after 30+ years of working.
My husband is a college dropout.
He and I have been working since we were 16.
Even today I work 60+ hours weeks and for most of the last year its closer to 80 hours a week.
So yeah, it was all handed to us.
apcalc
(4,465 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)a security officer, was a 31 year job steward, life long democrat.
Lisa0825
(14,487 posts)I hire technologists in Radiology/CT/US/MRI, Pharmacists/techs, PT/OT, and Clinial Lab Scientists, among others.