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imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 02:18 PM Apr 2016

"Clinton is not dealing with a candidate who can be bought off with a promise of a Cabinet post...."



Sanders Didn’t Start The Fire, So Don’t Ask Him To Put It Out
by Isaiah Poole
April 26, 2016



Isaiah J. Poole has been the editor of OurFuture.org since 2007 and also directs the Campaign for America's Future's online communications.

Clinton is not dealing with a candidate who can be bought off with a promise of a Cabinet post but with a movement that has a set of much tougher demands that cut to the core of where the party stands.

These are college graduates who see bank executives insulated from the consequences of their actions that led to the 2008 economic crash, but who themselves have no insulation from their crushing student debt loads. These are workers who wonder why corporations earning record-high profits (and paying obscenely low taxes on those profits) cannot afford to pay them a living wage for their work. These are the people who wonder why our health care debate is limited to shifting from one expensive Rube Goldberg maze to another, or why the economic security of senior citizens should be a bargaining chip in so-called “grand bargains” by politicians who have no idea what it is like to live on a Social Security check.

Perhaps most critically, these are the people who have had it with political parties whose attention, and by implication their policies, have been purchased by “the millionaires and billionaires” who Sanders regularly rails against. In their view, the Democratic Party is at best marginally less an organ of the rich and powerful than the Republican Party.

But as far as many Sanders voters are concerned, many of the decisions that have ended up causing them economic pain — from the trade deals of the last 30 years to financial services deregulation to the loopholes that allow the rich and powerful to avoid paying taxes — have been bipartisan affairs.

Read the full article at:
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/04/26/sanders-didnt-start-fire-so-dont-ask-him-put-it-out
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"Clinton is not dealing with a candidate who can be bought off with a promise of a Cabinet post...." (Original Post) imagine2015 Apr 2016 OP
I don't remember her offering a cabinet post to anyone. Did I miss it? nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #1
why would you? are you part of her inner sanctum? Hiraeth Apr 2016 #4
You wouldn't know what she has offered to any politicians/donors should she become president. imagine2015 Apr 2016 #13
and Ill bet she hasnt offered one. MFM008 Apr 2016 #2
I bet she hasn't either. Still too early. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #5
Fine, he can go home with nothing firebrand80 Apr 2016 #3
at least he will have family waiting for him. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #7
and they saw him do the right thing throughout reddread Apr 2016 #23
A decent, honorable man . Rare to see. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #27
lol, Hillarians for burning down the Democratic house. Nice. Schema Thing Apr 2016 #8
Wrong Carolina Apr 2016 #15
I love how you actually read and absorbed the real meaning of that article Armstead Apr 2016 #28
Oh, he will go home, many will stay home, TM99 Apr 2016 #32
Hillary better not give him a Cabinet post...eom asuhornets Apr 2016 #6
She cannot, Goldman Sachs would not approve...eom egalitegirl Apr 2016 #9
Neither do I..Neither do I...eom asuhornets Apr 2016 #10
He wouldn't take it even if she did. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2016 #11
Exactly, he has morals and Carolina Apr 2016 #16
Who's offering jack shit? The guy is losing badly. Jesus Christ. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #12
Wake up. The Democratic party is splitting. Unicorn Apr 2016 #17
No it isn't. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #18
I think that's a good indication across Hillary voters. Unicorn Apr 2016 #19
A bunch of angry white males staying home isn't splitting the party. We don't need 'em. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #20
Actually a whole lot of females of all ages. It's Hillary who gets the narrow catagory of older Unicorn Apr 2016 #22
It's not just white men davidn3600 Apr 2016 #31
Sanders won 42% of closed primary NY, which may indicate a substatial split nt floppyboo Apr 2016 #21
do you have any idea of what losing badly is? hollysmom Apr 2016 #26
Fuck that 40 percent who have supported him Armstead Apr 2016 #29
No, but she is dealing with a DNC chair and a neocon Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #14
She's mostly ignoring him, as is appropriate. ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #24
The difference between democratic and democratic Fairgo Apr 2016 #25
Why would she offer a Cabinet post to Bernie right now...or ever? Sheepshank Apr 2016 #30
To unify the party aftter this divisive primary. intheflow Apr 2016 #33
Earlier in the campaign, Weaver was demeaning and said they would "consider" Hillary for VP Sheepshank Apr 2016 #34
I didn't say it would work, and I'm not advocating for it. intheflow Apr 2016 #35
 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
13. You wouldn't know what she has offered to any politicians/donors should she become president.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 02:40 PM
Apr 2016

Unless she sent a personal e-mail to you soliciting your opinion.

Do you expect Hillary to call a news conference to release her Wall Street transcripts and state who she is considering for cabinet positions?
 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
23. and they saw him do the right thing throughout
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:08 PM
Apr 2016

even saw him at the Vatican!
what a gift to your family.
what a mensch.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
28. I love how you actually read and absorbed the real meaning of that article
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:21 PM
Apr 2016

Maybe the Democrats should be renamed the Shallowcrats.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
32. Oh, he will go home, many will stay home,
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:07 PM
Apr 2016

and you and Clinton will have nothing come November.

I love how y'all don't need us.

 

Unicorn

(424 posts)
17. Wake up. The Democratic party is splitting.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 02:44 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary can't win. The election fraud and corporate bought out candidate isn't working for the rest of us. She showed up at the way wrong time to pull that super pac crap. That worked pre occupy.

Wake up.

 

Unicorn

(424 posts)
19. I think that's a good indication across Hillary voters.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:03 PM
Apr 2016

Asleep at the wheel.

Open your eyes, the DNC car is about to crash. The progressives are promising to flee.

 

Unicorn

(424 posts)
22. Actually a whole lot of females of all ages. It's Hillary who gets the narrow catagory of older
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:07 PM
Apr 2016

women vote. And, Bernie rallys have plenty of older women who are liberal progressives.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
31. It's not just white men
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:31 PM
Apr 2016

It's the entire youth you are throwing away (women and men).

It's the old women who seem to love Hillary.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
26. do you have any idea of what losing badly is?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:50 PM
Apr 2016

have you seen the republican party anti-trump people, that is losing badly. For someone who Clinton likes to portray as a do nothing loser, he is pretty damn close. jheck he could not even get media coverage until the votes came in they dismissed him completely before this race began much like the DNC wanted - the coronation not spending money in the primary because there is no competition of ideas. Some of us think there is too much corporate money in politics - when will Clinton come out against the dark money? After she has it all? She moved left in the primary,. how right will she go in the GE/ it will be real interesting to see 2 republicans run against each other.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
29. Fuck that 40 percent who have supported him
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:26 PM
Apr 2016

The only thing that matters are die-hard Clinton fans and that is such a huge swath of the overall electorate

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
14. No, but she is dealing with a DNC chair and a neocon
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 02:41 PM
Apr 2016

economist (and others) who are trying like hell to sell themselves into cabinet posts
I guess sometimes she thinks anyone can be bought like she can.

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)
25. The difference between democratic and democratic
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:43 PM
Apr 2016

There are the values, and then there is the party. Not the same thing. Connotation and denotation. Underground can connote revolution or decomposition. You will know what people mean by watching their actions...in the streets and on forums such as this. Is this virtual agora a marketplace for ideas? or a market stall for selling pennants? What's for sale in America? Apparently the brand, and I'm not buying. My comrades are not buying. There will be no schism, because there never was a unity. These are two different groups of people.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
34. Earlier in the campaign, Weaver was demeaning and said they would "consider" Hillary for VP
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:41 AM
Apr 2016

After that insult, you think Bernie would accept anything less than POTUS? hardly.

If she offered the olive branch and he turned it down, you do realize how much hay all the anti Hillary crowd would make of it? He could easily turn down any cabinet position just to prove he is NOT part of the establishment. The visuals for Hillary would not be good, so why even put themselves in that position.

As for your assertion that it would be a point of unity, I don't know how that would work? It actually would be kind of moot don't you think since unity will have either happened prior to the GE or not at all. She can't be offering cabinet positions until after the elections anyway.

intheflow

(28,476 posts)
35. I didn't say it would work, and I'm not advocating for it.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:45 AM
Apr 2016

I'm just noting precedent, and why the writer in the OP made that leap.

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