2016 Postmortem
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Sanders Didnt Start The Fire, So Dont Ask Him To Put It Out
by Isaiah Poole
April 26, 2016
Isaiah J. Poole has been the editor of OurFuture.org since 2007 and also directs the Campaign for America's Future's online communications.
Clinton is not dealing with a candidate who can be bought off with a promise of a Cabinet post but with a movement that has a set of much tougher demands that cut to the core of where the party stands.
These are college graduates who see bank executives insulated from the consequences of their actions that led to the 2008 economic crash, but who themselves have no insulation from their crushing student debt loads. These are workers who wonder why corporations earning record-high profits (and paying obscenely low taxes on those profits) cannot afford to pay them a living wage for their work. These are the people who wonder why our health care debate is limited to shifting from one expensive Rube Goldberg maze to another, or why the economic security of senior citizens should be a bargaining chip in so-called grand bargains by politicians who have no idea what it is like to live on a Social Security check.
Perhaps most critically, these are the people who have had it with political parties whose attention, and by implication their policies, have been purchased by the millionaires and billionaires who Sanders regularly rails against. In their view, the Democratic Party is at best marginally less an organ of the rich and powerful than the Republican Party.
But as far as many Sanders voters are concerned, many of the decisions that have ended up causing them economic pain from the trade deals of the last 30 years to financial services deregulation to the loopholes that allow the rich and powerful to avoid paying taxes have been bipartisan affairs.
Read the full article at:
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/04/26/sanders-didnt-start-fire-so-dont-ask-him-put-it-out
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)imagine2015
(2,054 posts)Unless she sent a personal e-mail to you soliciting your opinion.
Do you expect Hillary to call a news conference to release her Wall Street transcripts and state who she is considering for cabinet positions?
MFM008
(19,816 posts)I just bet.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)firebrand80
(2,760 posts)Doesn't bother me
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)even saw him at the Vatican!
what a gift to your family.
what a mensch.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)Carolina
(6,960 posts)He goes home with INTEGRITY -- something $hillary lost ages ago, if indeed she ever had any!
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Maybe the Democrats should be renamed the Shallowcrats.
TM99
(8,352 posts)and you and Clinton will have nothing come November.
I love how y'all don't need us.
asuhornets
(2,405 posts)egalitegirl
(362 posts)asuhornets
(2,405 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,632 posts)Carolina
(6,960 posts)integrity which are both like kryptonite to HRC
LexVegas
(6,067 posts)Unicorn
(424 posts)Hillary can't win. The election fraud and corporate bought out candidate isn't working for the rest of us. She showed up at the way wrong time to pull that super pac crap. That worked pre occupy.
Wake up.
LexVegas
(6,067 posts)Unicorn
(424 posts)Asleep at the wheel.
Open your eyes, the DNC car is about to crash. The progressives are promising to flee.
LexVegas
(6,067 posts)Unicorn
(424 posts)women vote. And, Bernie rallys have plenty of older women who are liberal progressives.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)It's the entire youth you are throwing away (women and men).
It's the old women who seem to love Hillary.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)hollysmom
(5,946 posts)have you seen the republican party anti-trump people, that is losing badly. For someone who Clinton likes to portray as a do nothing loser, he is pretty damn close. jheck he could not even get media coverage until the votes came in they dismissed him completely before this race began much like the DNC wanted - the coronation not spending money in the primary because there is no competition of ideas. Some of us think there is too much corporate money in politics - when will Clinton come out against the dark money? After she has it all? She moved left in the primary,. how right will she go in the GE/ it will be real interesting to see 2 republicans run against each other.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)The only thing that matters are die-hard Clinton fans and that is such a huge swath of the overall electorate
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)economist (and others) who are trying like hell to sell themselves into cabinet posts
I guess sometimes she thinks anyone can be bought like she can.
ismnotwasm
(41,989 posts)I don't see why she would offer him anything.
Fairgo
(1,571 posts)There are the values, and then there is the party. Not the same thing. Connotation and denotation. Underground can connote revolution or decomposition. You will know what people mean by watching their actions...in the streets and on forums such as this. Is this virtual agora a marketplace for ideas? or a market stall for selling pennants? What's for sale in America? Apparently the brand, and I'm not buying. My comrades are not buying. There will be no schism, because there never was a unity. These are two different groups of people.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)I doubt he would accept one anyway
intheflow
(28,476 posts)That's how she got her SoS gig.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)After that insult, you think Bernie would accept anything less than POTUS? hardly.
If she offered the olive branch and he turned it down, you do realize how much hay all the anti Hillary crowd would make of it? He could easily turn down any cabinet position just to prove he is NOT part of the establishment. The visuals for Hillary would not be good, so why even put themselves in that position.
As for your assertion that it would be a point of unity, I don't know how that would work? It actually would be kind of moot don't you think since unity will have either happened prior to the GE or not at all. She can't be offering cabinet positions until after the elections anyway.
intheflow
(28,476 posts)I'm just noting precedent, and why the writer in the OP made that leap.