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JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
1. Womens right to choose, equal pay, criminal justice reform,
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 02:58 PM
Apr 2016

Higher wages, immigration reform, huge minority support, etc etc etc

Which part do you "hate"?

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
5. But Bernie has voted for more wars and war funding than...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:02 PM
Apr 2016

Any candidate running on both sides. And the only Dem running who voted to protect a big business/gun industry. And the only candidate who voted to deregulate Wall Street.

PaulaFarrell

(1,236 posts)
12. That only speaks to the length of his time in congress
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:12 PM
Apr 2016

and the little/no experience in congress for the other candidates. I think we can make educated guesses as to what the other parties would have voted had they had the opportunity by looking at what they say and do in other areas.

 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
7. The part you are not getting.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:07 PM
Apr 2016

Womens right to choose...well mostly
equal pay...Who isn't?
criminal justice reform...second time is the charm? She stopped taking money from prisons last year...so kind of good...she also is not for legalizing drugs like pot.
Higher wages...well kind of.
immigration reform...H1B visas limit lifted up.

Which part do you "hate"? I would be sure it could have been any of the things listed, or the fact that how she panders to the left, she will pander to the right come the election...and it will all be out the door.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
8. I think services liberalisation is going to hurt many women and nonwhite people a lot
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:08 PM
Apr 2016

because it will impact people at the lower levels in skilled professions jobs replacing high paid skilled workers-

Services liberalisation has been promised to the developing world for over two decades.

Thats what she means about ending discrimination.

Its going to be hard to use the usual arguments against the use of these subcontractors because the awarding of contracts will be based on putting in the lowest qualified bid. So, they will be based on the cost of living and who is willing to sell their services the cheapest. Also, the firms from the least developed countries will get special rights, even if they are composed of relatively well to do people from poor countries.

The world will see them as the victims and Americans as the "protectionists".

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
13. We may get criminal justice reform but at the same time the vanishing of jobs will not be conducive
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:14 PM
Apr 2016

to the reduction of crime.

I would like to have a serious discusson about this issue and I know a fair amount about it, so HRC folks, please dont attack me. This is all of our country.

What I am talking about is the opening up of service jobs to foreign competition by means of procurement reform and privatization of services

(b) 'services' includes any service in any sector except services supplied in the exercise of governmental authority;

(c) 'a service supplied in the exercise of governmental authority' means any service which is supplied neither on a commercial basis, nor in competition with one or more service suppliers."

The opening up aspect of it is called economic integration.

the US is committed to opening up its services to foreign competition.

You can find out a bit about the ideals of this push by googling World Competition Day.

 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
15. Yes.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:18 PM
Apr 2016

It was mine as well. Last time against Obama I did think about the fact that historically women have not been given the same rights, but the black suffrage movement was far more recent. It seemed like both candidates would break barriers...but then I rather quickly remembered her vote for Iraq and my fried that suffers from flash backs every day, or my other friend that kept getting pulled back in and never got to pursue a career outside of the army, or my friend that has a couple kids that are growing up with out a father since he kept getting extensions. It would be nice to have a female president, but I am not looking forward to having the first female president that starts a war or get indited (not the FBI thing, but for all of the other shadey deals they like to do like the hillary victory fund, the shell corps, deleting her emails).

Land of Enchantment

(1,217 posts)
6. Oh boy. I think of the soul as being without gender....I don't care if she is a male or female.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:04 PM
Apr 2016

It all goes to intent. Her intentions could not be more opposite of Bernie's.

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RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
9. Yeah
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:09 PM
Apr 2016

Night or day. This physical world is constrained.

And unfortunately our political system is based on leaders. It is republican in the deepest definition, whereas in a true democracy, all are leaders.

That's why Bernie is my favorite. I like his democratic style.

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