It is so odd to witness the deification of the man. I know I offended a lot of people with my St. Bernie picture (Bernie's face photoshopped onto the Madonna), but this is so friggin' weird!

Sanders is an old man and Clinton is an old woman. Neither of them have shown they have any special 'powers' to connect with people, they simply are who they are.
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Doesn't matter diddly whether you agree with or like the guy.

But so many are throwing out the baby with the bathwater in their wholesale determination to not leave it at "Meh. He's not a good candidate and I much prefer Hillary."

It failed against Obama in 2008, but I guess it's working this time. Congratulations.

and just to cheese you off here a little deification image....

... I think the pro-HRC crowd has moved way past beatification. On average, her fans tend to be pragmatic and not so quick to build a pedestal.

Were you the one who made that pic? After all those unjust hides, I almost ending up using it, but I think it would work better if his head spun around. LOL

As you noted, it drew some unwanted attention.

Of course if I were gonna add Saint Bernie back, I'd use this, but I just couldn't seem to quite get that Exorcist effect I was going for:

I doubt most of the target audience for that graphic was even alive in 1973 so the reference would be lost. Don't worry, I'll think of something else. :-D

And we all know that. But Jesus was just a man too, and he was a great man. Bobby Kennedy was just a man, but he was a great man and would have been a great President. Obama is just a man, but he is a great man.

There are all kinds of people out there...some great, some not so great.

Gandhi was a great man. Not a god. But his heart was in the right place.
Pope Francis is a great man, not a god. Even though he's not right on everything (he's Catholic, what can you expect), his heart is in the right place.

Even Martin Luther King was just a man...a great man but a man of failings, like all men.

Bernie is a great man (if you look at his convictions and how he lived his life), not a god. He is not perfect, but his heart is in the right place.

Nobody can ever accuse Hillary of having her heart in the right place. Her heart is in her pocket book. She was born into affluence and put herself in a position to earn power and fame by hitching herself to Bill, and now she's got both and she is in heaven. And she's a millionaire and lives in fancy houses. Do you really think that is great compared to someone who has lived a modest life and is all about family and helping other people, including devoting his life to the public job of trying to help other people and live in peace?

What Bernie has that Hillary does not have is honesty, stamina and charisma. It's his honesty that people connect with, but it's his willingness to lead the revolution that they support him for.

Goodness seldom prevails against power and money. this time the people have been wanting this revolution for too long and until now, no one has stepped up to lead it.

If he doesn't win, the revolution will not die. It might be quieter for awhile, but it lives in the hearts of the young and it is always ready to resume the fight when the right leader is there.

I think it was at the beginning, but he seems to be caught up with -- addicted to? -- all the adulation and enormous crowds.

Anyone in their right mind would be.

But if he did, it would only mean that he thought there was enough momentum to actually win and get this country back on track.

Not everyone is into fame and fortune. He's proved in the past that he is not. I'm sorry your eyes have been so tarnished by Hillary's ways, you think all people are like her. They are not.

You want me to argue until hell freezes over? You won't be changing your mind.

This conversation is over. Have the last word.

all of those things Bernie said he was going to do, can't be accomplished without a Democrat majority at least in the Senate. Bernie has done nothing to help those running for Senate seats. he has helped three people running for House seats. Either Bernie doesn't get how things have to play out, or he just likes to hear himself talk. But either way, most of his followers have no idea that the President alone can't do any of the things Bernie has suggested without a magic wand.

Bernie is an idealist, not a realist. Not that there's anything wrong with either .... unles you're running for president!

Just when you think it can't get any weirder!

Evidently they think Hillary is the future

We have a winner!

Squelch all speculation on the subject. But she's not doing that because the wins favor her now but might not upon closer examination.

I'm sure a lot of his ideas will continue to be popular, even if none of them were really his ideas. But as for the man himself, I think that ship is sailing out of the harbor back to his previous obscurity.

Well, Bernie himself is too old, but his message is the future so long as people can't make it in this new "service" economy that we seem to be stuck with. Like Europe discovered, when this happens, the wealth must be shared if the people are to survive.

and because young people are constantly being born and old people are constantly dying, we can see this trend growing, until it's strong enough to win. At that point in time, our country can start to become a great place again. Until then it's only great for the Oligarchy.

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When I first saw that, I thought it was anti-Bernie snark. That it's serious is even funnier.

with white privilege for middle and upper middle class, and men, really made me chuckle.

Clinton, the first woman President breaking the glass ceiling, .... EVER is all about the past. You are so right on dude.

In your view, if Sarah Palin was elected president, you would call that "progress." Right? It's a woman breaking the glass ceiling.

Most progressives try to have more depth and realize that really wouldn't be much progress considering Palin's beliefs.

Similar situation with Hillary. Electing Hillary breaks a glass ceiling (which the patriarchy tends to quickly repair), but her political ideas are not that progressive. She'll support the political and economic status quo that most people find to be wrong with America. She supports the old guard/establishment. And has rich friends with very close connections with Wall Street.

But most young people can look past gender. They really don't care if the president is male or female, black or white, gay or straight. I'm on the older side of the millennial generation. I interact with young people all the time as they are my peers and coworkers and were my classmates. We are far more egalitarian than our parent's and grandparent's generation. The race or gender of our President isn't really that important to us.

You just dont seem to understand.
I am going to guess you are at or close to retirement. You dont have to worry about finding a career, paying student loans, or have to worry about social security or medicare.
The youth have to worry about those things, plus things like climate change and constitutional rights being eroded. We have to live on this planet 50 years from now.

If you had run a woman like Elizabeth Warren, the youth would be behind her. This party would be fully united. But Hillary is not liked. She is divisive. She's got baggage. She represents the old guard that we want changed. I don't want to go back to the 1990s. I don't want to go back and have to screw around with all the endless scandals that seem to always follow the Clinton family.

The Democratic party needs to get away from what Hillary represents. This party has moved away from the people and only focuses on money. We got huge student loans from sky-rocketing tuition followed by a poor job market. We got Democrats who support free trade agreements that have gutted America's manufacturing sector, supported corporations offloaded jobs, and hurting the working class. We got Hillary supporting programs like the H1B visa program which companies like Disney has used to lay off American workers and force them to train their foreign replacements.

I refuse to vote for the status quo. And woman or not, Hillary Clinton is the status quo. That is what she represents. She is a corporatist. I'm sorry, but feminists like yourself chose the wrong woman to get behind.

Some of the blindest posts I have seen.
But, nothing will change.
It is the way it is.

and by "future" you mean "unlikely to accomplish much" then yes.

What does his age have to do with anything?

How come he only got around to starting his revolution now, when he's been around Congress for almost 30 years? We'd of had decades of blissful living by now.

discover love and kindness until a couple days ago?

climate change is upon us. When the Earth changes are upon us, all that old money hoarded in secret stashes will not help anybody, and will not be worth the paper it's printed on. No one wants to face it, but young people have to.

Bernie is soon to be a past candidate.
Reality can be such a bitch sometimes.
No?

that any parent in their right mind who wants their kid to go to college - not to mention the kids themselves - would support Bernie Sanders on this issue alone. Don't say it can't happen. He has planted so many idealistic visions that CAN come true if we work for them.

Bernie is the past candidate.

Take all that together and you come away with pretty clear evidence that over the course of the Democratic primary young voters have become more attached to progressive politics and the Democratic party. One read of this is that the primary process itself - as divisive as it has sometimes seemed - has deepened young voters' identification with the Democratic party.

Who have thoroughly rejected Bernie and embraced Hillary.

I feel very much on the right side of history here.

Women and POC under 40 voted in much higher numbers for Sanders than they did for Clinton. So good luck continuing your 20th Century DNC narrative into the future. Though you're right they might not be the future of the Democratic party. They are just as likely to be the demise of the Democratic party through forming a politically viable third party. Unless the Democratic party wakes up to the 21st century world younger voters live in.

And older voters tend to skew more moderate as they age. Thus has it ever been so. So the 20 year olds who are voting for Bernie today will become 40 year olds who would support Hillary if the same election were held then.

There are obviously exceptions, but those are the general trends.

Someone forgot to tell me. I'm 52 and growing more radical as I age. Why? Because my entire retirement disappeared with Washington Mutual, I'm in default on my $100k in student loans because I can't work in the field I went to school for due to health reasons which means I'm ineligible for social security and I'll have to work until I drop dead, and my grandson is inheriting a world where natural disasters are amplified 100-fold due to global climate change. But yes, please feel free to be agist and make broad assumptions about general trends in the 21st Century based on a 20th Century model.

I'm not being ageist.

It's natural that people who are struggling will support more radical candidates. It's the same reason some are supporting Trump (not comparing the two groups in any other way). People who are struggling are angry and feel abandoned by their government, and that makes perfect sense. I'm sorry for your troubles.

That, sorry, still does not invalidate the trends, which are holding steady well into the 21st century.

We're not even a fifth of the way through. Also, the trend of the past 20-30 years is that more and more people are struggling, and more and more people feel like our government is corrupt. So basically you're validating my point, Sanders' platform is the future.

If the party has enough progressive momentum to shove to the left in the next few cycles, I'll be happy to move with it. I'm a moderate myself, but I've been a Dem voter my whole life and that ain't never gonna change.

and attempting to generation-divide. Fail.

...even if our votes don't match our rhetoric.

We wouldn't be the first electorate not to walk the talk.

If Bernie Sanders is the future, his youthful followers had(censored) well better prove it. While I admire Bernie voters' youthful enthusiasm, I still remember their slightly-older Gen-X and Gen-Y elders who capped their 2008 enthusiasm for Barrack Obama by sitting on their backsides in 2010 and again in 2014 and handing the House, the Senate, and so many state governments over to the Tea-thug locals.

You're enthusiastic?

You're the future?

Then Effing well show up and vote while prepping your take-over.

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is the future. It's happening. Deal with it.