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Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:35 PM Apr 2016

Snopes and BernieFbGhazi

http://www.snopes.com/2016/04/26/bernie-sanders-facebook-groups-controversy/

regardless, the conspiracies will abound, because they are ever more sexy than the bland reality.

Astroturfing is is nothing new during campaign season, nor is it something that has never been attached to the Clinton campaign. But aside from unsourced screenshots, no information emerged to substantiate the April 2016 claims of coordinated or paid harassment of Sanders supporters on social media.


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Snopes and BernieFbGhazi (Original Post) Sheepshank Apr 2016 OP
And then FB itself spoke. bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #1
Link? PeaceNikki Apr 2016 #3
They laugh at us for not taking the time to infiltrate online polls.... JaneyVee Apr 2016 #2
No kidding! Lucinda Apr 2016 #10
FB Bernie Group also spoke out refuting the conspiracy Sheepshank Apr 2016 #4
I'm glad they did, but some will not accept it. Lucinda Apr 2016 #11
Correction: FacebookGHAZI. The "gate" suffix is for actual scandals, "ghazi" is for bullshit. PeaceNikki Apr 2016 #5
oh alright...you have a point. OP upated to add Ghazi Sheepshank Apr 2016 #7
Yet Hillary is spending a million on internet trolls... Human101948 Apr 2016 #22
I'll believe a USUncut link when you'll believe a BNR link. PeaceNikki Apr 2016 #25
You really believe that no coordination BS? Human101948 Apr 2016 #26
Bros4Hillary.com admits that a member is responsible for the Bernie FB pages take down. think Apr 2016 #6
from the link Sheepshank Apr 2016 #9
It is ludicrous to believe that this was the work of just one person. frylock Apr 2016 #21
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #33
*sigh* Kelvin Mace Apr 2016 #8
But she DiD hire Brock's terrorists. That was reported widely in the news. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #12
Be very careful how leftynyc Apr 2016 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #35
You're calling them terrorists? nolawarlock Apr 2016 #27
I do believe their tactics would clearly fall within the purview of The War on Terror silvershadow Apr 2016 #29
You should go for a walk. JaneyVee Apr 2016 #30
Do you want me to find the video? I can do that... silvershadow Apr 2016 #31
No. You should go for a walk. Its good for the spirit. JaneyVee Apr 2016 #37
My spirit is strong. I am resolute. I am at complete peace with how this has turned out, because, silvershadow Apr 2016 #40
^^^^^ this. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #36
ok then. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #32
This is a pretty awful allegation. Raine1967 Apr 2016 #41
Obama had a presser on it! Don't dare try to act like he didn't. My assertion stands, as I know silvershadow Apr 2016 #42
I wasn't talking about Obama. I am talking about your allegations. Raine1967 Apr 2016 #43
Another fucking fail. Own it, Hillary bros. frylock Apr 2016 #13
Read post #9 leftynyc Apr 2016 #15
I don't see comments at the link. frylock Apr 2016 #18
And this point is...? Tarc Apr 2016 #16
Hmmmnn, yes. Just one bad guy. frylock Apr 2016 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #38
don't leave out the important part Dem2 Apr 2016 #17
So apparently it was more than just one former member. frylock Apr 2016 #20
I got a bridge you might be interested in Dem2 Apr 2016 #23
Is this bridge located anywhere near Facebook Glitch? frylock Apr 2016 #24
Careful... OilemFirchen Apr 2016 #34
Like we didn't know this was going to be another Bernie bust nt nolawarlock Apr 2016 #28
Ha ha ha! Oh, wait. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #39
 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
2. They laugh at us for not taking the time to infiltrate online polls....
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:38 PM
Apr 2016

Yet we found the time to orchestrate a massive online conspiracy?

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
9. from the link
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:45 PM
Apr 2016
http://www.bros4hillary.com/statement-from-b4h-leadership/

Ludicrously, they want us to believe that only 1 (now ex) member is responsible for the take down of 16+ pages. They want us to believe that a few complaints will trigger a take down. For those of you who are not aware of Face Book's take down policies, it takes mass reporting in order for Face Book to react as quickly as it did.

Response to Sheepshank (Reply #9)

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
8. *sigh*
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:43 PM
Apr 2016

I tire of wading through this every day. To be fair, if the shoe were on the other foot, I would be readings hundreds of posts making the same allegations against Sanders' supporters.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
14. Be very careful how
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:52 PM
Apr 2016

you use the word terrorist. It actually has a specific meaning. Violence for political reasons. If you have some EVIDENCE that Brock uses violence, go to the police or the fbi - if not - stop with the hyperbolic bullshit. Since we already know from earlier today you lack any evidence of ANY wrongdoing, perhaps it's time to lay off the politics for a while as it seems to make you blurt out lies that you get very upset at being asked to back up.

Response to leftynyc (Reply #14)

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
27. You're calling them terrorists?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:20 PM
Apr 2016

Is that how we should now describe the people who abuse the jury system here to silence opposition? I see no difference between that and exploiting the flaws of the Facebook system, though I'm still skeptical as to whether the latter was even actually done.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
29. I do believe their tactics would clearly fall within the purview of The War on Terror
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:22 PM
Apr 2016

(whatever that really is) as President Obama had a big Presser when the change was made, so yes.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
40. My spirit is strong. I am resolute. I am at complete peace with how this has turned out, because,
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:35 PM
Apr 2016

as you might know, we have made and are making a YUGE difference in the party. The divide is here. It is upon us. I have written tomes over the last many years about it right here, and here we are...still without a nominee because she was so weak. Bernie stepped in to save the party from itself. Good thing he did, too.

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
32. ok then.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:26 PM
Apr 2016

Not sure what's to say to that.

Well, I guess I can say that desperate has a very distinct stench and I can smell it quite strongly right now.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
41. This is a pretty awful allegation.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:43 PM
Apr 2016

Brock is a lot of things to a lot of people...

He's not a terrorist.

Seriously, I know you are advocating for Sanders, but for you to claim that Brock has terrorists is insulting to people who actually have been victims of or who have actually witnessed terroristic acts.

Your post is over the top.


 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
42. Obama had a presser on it! Don't dare try to act like he didn't. My assertion stands, as I know
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:45 PM
Apr 2016

we fight this very thing under the purview of the War on Terror (whatever that is)

frylock

(34,825 posts)
13. Another fucking fail. Own it, Hillary bros.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:49 PM
Apr 2016

Last night, a former member by the name of Casey Champagne decided to engage in harassing behavior toward Facebook groups of Bernie Sanders and posted about it in the B4H Facebook group. As stated above, this was not promoted or supported by the leadership of B4H, nor were we immediately aware of this conduct. We removed the offending posts and member as soon as possible. While our leadership team of administrators tries to catch every questionable post and comment, with over 7,000 members and on a 24-hour posting cycle, some fall through the cracks. We rely on members to “flag and report” harmful, offensive, or trolling behavior, and apologize to the groups that were affected. This member acted on his own authority, is not a part of our leadership team, and does not represent our ideals or our opinions.

http://www.bros4hillary.com/statement-from-b4h-leadership/

Response to Tarc (Reply #16)

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
17. don't leave out the important part
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:54 PM
Apr 2016
http://www.bros4hillary.com/statement-from-b4h-leadership/

Ludicrously, they want us to believe that only 1 (now ex) member is responsible for the take down of 16+ pages. They want us to believe that a few complaints will trigger a take down. For those of you who are not aware of Face Book's take down policies, it takes mass reporting in order for Face Book to react as quickly as it did.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
39. Ha ha ha! Oh, wait.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:33 PM
Apr 2016

Gee, it sure looks like someone spammed those pages- specifically, bernie sanders groups- with SOME sort of extremely objectionable material, triggering facebook's "automated" shutting down of those groups.

Which I guess COULD be spun as a "database error", you know, as long as people dont think about it for more than 20 seconds.

Good thing is, the internet is forever, and people will get to the bottom of this.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/277657-hillary-supporters-take-down-bernie-fb-pages-in-coordinated

According to eyewitness reports, the pages were flooded with pornographic images in what appeared to be coordinated fashion and then flagged for obscene content, prompting Facebook to remove them.

"We had what looked like a kiddie porn posted in one of our groups today,” said Sanders supporter Erica Libenow, according to Heavy.com. "I reported that one. Seriously made me want to vomit.”

A Facebook spokesman confirmed to The Hill that a number of pro-Sanders groups as well as other pages "were inaccessible for a brief period" due to the company's automated policies being "applied incorrectly."


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