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kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:44 PM Apr 2016

Sanders and his team will reassess his candidacy tomorrow.

But he's not leaving the race.

“If we are sitting here and there’s no sort of mathematical way to do it, we will be upfront about that,” Tad Devine, Mr. Sanders’s senior strategist, said in an interview. “If we have a really good day, we are going to continue to talk about winning most of the pledged delegates because we will be on a path toward it. If we don’t get enough today to make it clear that we can do it by the end, it’s going to be hard to talk about it. That’s not going to be a credible path. Instead, we will talk about what we intend to do between now and the end and how we can get there.”

Mr. Devine explained that on Wednesday, Mr. Sanders’s senior advisers will talk about a range of issues, including how to adjust their messaging about the election process, what route if any they have to winning the nomination, and where they should focus on gaining ground. He said he could still see a mathematical path to winning the nomination, but he added that if that changed with Tuesday night’s results, the campaign would have to adjust.

“We may decide we have to pick up some more delegates in some of these caucus states,” Mr. Devine said. “Maybe we have to get some more people on the ground between now and the state conventions some place because we are not going to win as many as we thought we were going to win in primaries. But we have got to make up the difference elsewhere — that’s the reassessment.”


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Sanders and his team will reassess his candidacy tomorrow. (Original Post) kstewart33 Apr 2016 OP
Gee, it's a little early for that announcement. FSogol Apr 2016 #1
It's the proper move. If tonight goes as expected, he should tip his hat to Hillary. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #2
He should also stop calling her "unqualified", too. hamsterjill Apr 2016 #14
Why should he start lying? nt Joe the Revelator Apr 2016 #18
He just needs to stop lying and distorting Nonhlanhla Apr 2016 #29
A 'generally progressive agenda' isn't good enough. Joe the Revelator Apr 2016 #37
Do you understand political realities in this country Nonhlanhla Apr 2016 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author DesertFlower Apr 2016 #53
huh? Joe the Revelator Apr 2016 #55
exactly. nt DesertFlower Apr 2016 #52
He should start trying to unify the party. hamsterjill Apr 2016 #66
Hasn't that ship sailed? thesquanderer Apr 2016 #43
She IS unqualified MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author DesertFlower Apr 2016 #54
you should self delete . This is GDP. Joe the Revelator Apr 2016 #56
sorry. i'm so overwhelmed by hillary's win. DesertFlower Apr 2016 #57
She is more qualified than anyone. hamsterjill Apr 2016 #64
She is more qualified than anyone. hamsterjill Apr 2016 #65
He's needs to stay in until the convention to have a say in the 2016 Democratic Platform LongTomH Apr 2016 #3
Maybe next time around. But losers don't COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #30
Democracies and democratic organizations are built on compromise. LongTomH Apr 2016 #39
That's an admirable goal. And when you have rebuilt the party in your COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #68
And Hillary does NOT excite Indies. Sanders does. HoweverHillary does excite Rs to vote against her. peacebird Apr 2016 #42
Time will tell. I don't care about her 'exciting' or not exciting COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #67
Tad Devine is pulling MILLIONS out of that campaign to the benefit of his company. MADem Apr 2016 #4
Did you see just 3 or 4 days ago Weaver's company COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #32
Yep--that was for Nine bucks a vote NY. MADem Apr 2016 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #33
Making the big bucks Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2016 #48
The final internal polling looked real bad, it appears. MineralMan Apr 2016 #5
It's going to be an interesting night. nt kstewart33 Apr 2016 #11
Tad Devine wants to maintain his viability to manage future Democratic candidates. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #6
Personally I think he steered Sanders wrong on multiple occasions ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #22
I agree with that completely. cwydro Apr 2016 #41
Jane Sanders said on msnbc an hour ago this story is not true... polichick Apr 2016 #7
The news is based on direct quotes from Devine. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #8
She was "disturbed" by idiotic media coverage of process instead of issues, which she also said. polichick Apr 2016 #9
It will be interesting to see what happens in the next few days. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #10
Jane said that whatever happens the "revolution" goes on and... polichick Apr 2016 #12
Oh well TMontoya Apr 2016 #13
You wish. polichick Apr 2016 #15
You do that. We're standing in the fucking ring taking all comers! Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #27
His most committed supporters are that way. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #16
A lot of independents probably won't vote at all though... polichick Apr 2016 #17
Wrong. randome Apr 2016 #19
I don't know a single Bernie voter in real life who will vote for Hillary... polichick Apr 2016 #21
The Democratic Party left us LiveLong101 Apr 2016 #28
Very true. polichick Apr 2016 #38
Sooo...you'd desert our nominee? cwydro Apr 2016 #47
All this is why I find him so repugnant, and I will STILL vote for him if he gets the nomination. nt nolawarlock Apr 2016 #50
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #70
The 'revolution' goes away after the convention. Maybe COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #36
I didn't think she sounded disturbed Generic Brad Apr 2016 #25
re: "this story is not true...There is no reassessment - and they are in til the convention." thesquanderer Apr 2016 #24
No MATTER how many times you post this, Bernie is in it to the convention. Skwmom Apr 2016 #20
yep grasswire Apr 2016 #26
IOW, they're running out of money. Blew it all in NY. Yavin4 Apr 2016 #23
I'm embarrassed for Bernie. Really. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #31
FFS MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #45
Well that makes sense. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #49
You're welcome, Mar 17, 2016 poster! MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #58
And again, I'm called a paid shill nolawarlock Apr 2016 #59
How much per hour? MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #60
LOL. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #61
Aw...... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #62
Sure they will. His only win was with ca 8000 votes factfinder_77 Apr 2016 #35
Here's what I wish he would do. Turin_C3PO Apr 2016 #40
As a Hillary supporter, I basically agree with you. auntpurl Apr 2016 #69
Maybe they should stop asking for money Gomez163 Apr 2016 #51
 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
2. It's the proper move. If tonight goes as expected, he should tip his hat to Hillary.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:49 PM
Apr 2016

That doesn't mean drop out. Then the President can campaign for her and his political capital will count for something at the convention.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
29. He just needs to stop lying and distorting
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:24 PM
Apr 2016

and he needs to serve a greater truth - the truth of a generally progressive agenda against the right-wing extremists in the GOP.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
44. Do you understand political realities in this country
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:52 PM
Apr 2016

or in any other country? All politics work on the basis of coalitions (in many European countries it takes the form of party coalitions after elections; in the US winner-takes-all system the coalition by necessity happens before elections). That is the nature of democracy. Not everyone will agree with you, whether you like it or not, so if you want to get some of what you want, you need to take the hands of some of the people who don't agree 100% with you. In short, if you want to get some of your agenda passed, you have to form a coalition with others. The Democratic Party has in the modern era been a coalition of progressives, liberal-minded capitalists, minorities, women, gays, etc. - in other words, people who to a greater or lesser extent support various causes on the progressive side of the spectrum (greater governmental involvement with alleviation of poverty or racial justice, less involvement with personal stuff). The GOP on the other hand has been a coalition of racists, super-capitalists, social conservatives, and tax-fearing rich people - in short, people who favor causes on the conservative side of the spectrum (greater involvement with personal stuff, less with money stuff). Those coalitions might shift every once in a while, but as a whole. standing on the sidelines complaining that the more progressive coalition is not good enough will get you nothing, and it will only help the conservative coalition.

It's that simple.

Response to Joe the Revelator (Reply #37)

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
66. He should start trying to unify the party.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:41 AM
Apr 2016

Hillary is completely qualified to be President. There's no one else who can hold a candle to her.

It's time for Bernie to think of the country and not himself. I believe he will do the right thing.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
46. She IS unqualified
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:56 PM
Apr 2016

No one trusts her ability to make any decisions.

She is also a world class fibber-McGee

Response to MrMickeysMom (Reply #46)

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
64. She is more qualified than anyone.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:39 AM
Apr 2016

"No one"? You speak for everyone??? I don't think so.

Tell that to the millions of people who have voted for her. I'm sure they will all be very interested in YOUR assessment of the situation.

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
65. She is more qualified than anyone.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:39 AM
Apr 2016

"No one"? You speak for everyone??? I don't think so.

Tell that to the millions of people who have voted for her. I'm sure they will all be very interested in YOUR assessment of the situation.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
3. He's needs to stay in until the convention to have a say in the 2016 Democratic Platform
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:53 PM
Apr 2016

Win or lose, the issues he and his supporters have raised, need to be addressed!

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
39. Democracies and democratic organizations are built on compromise.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:41 PM
Apr 2016

If the Democratic party becomes the type of organization where 'winners' by a few delegates, crush the opposition, then it ceases to be a 'democratic' party in anything but name only!

Oh, your gloating may be premature: We're not going away. Bernie's supporters will be working to change the party from the bottom up.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
68. That's an admirable goal. And when you have rebuilt the party in your
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:42 AM
Apr 2016

preferred image, then you get to call the shots.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
42. And Hillary does NOT excite Indies. Sanders does. HoweverHillary does excite Rs to vote against her.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:49 PM
Apr 2016

So, instead of calling Sanders folks LOSERs perhaps you should consider that without US your precious does not stand a snowballs chance in hell.



COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
67. Time will tell. I don't care about her 'exciting' or not exciting
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:41 AM
Apr 2016

Indies. Excited people tend to get un-excited very easily. What I believe (and what polling seems to show) is that most Independents given the choice between a President Clinton and a President Trump will vote in their own best interest and vote for Hillary.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
4. Tad Devine is pulling MILLIONS out of that campaign to the benefit of his company.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:54 PM
Apr 2016

Check the FEC filings--it was nearly three million in March.

Tad wants Bernie to stay in, so he can siphon off that money, give work to his firm, making all those ads that don't get people to the polls.

Sanders spent NINE BUCKS a vote in NY.

Those are Romneyesque numbers.

He's not getting good advice from either Tad or Jeff. And it's obvious, too.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
32. Did you see just 3 or 4 days ago Weaver's company
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:27 PM
Apr 2016

billed the campaign for $2,200,000.? These bozos are on the gravy train and they intend to ride it to the bitter end.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
63. Yep--that was for Nine bucks a vote NY.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:26 AM
Apr 2016

Hell, Clinton paid three bucks and I thought that was a lot.

Nine bucks, though? That's Romneyesque!

BS is not being well-served. There's a reason why Devine has never been on a winning campaign, since way back to Carter II. He's bad news. If you don't want to win, hire him.

Response to MADem (Reply #4)

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
5. The final internal polling looked real bad, it appears.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:01 PM
Apr 2016

They're backing water as fast as possible. But the waterfall just keeps getting closer. Time to throw out the anchor or call for a rescue, I think.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
6. Tad Devine wants to maintain his viability to manage future Democratic candidates.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:02 PM
Apr 2016

He doesn't want to burn his bridges. I can't blame the guy.

ismnotwasm

(41,989 posts)
22. Personally I think he steered Sanders wrong on multiple occasions
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:58 PM
Apr 2016

And he's not new--I don't know what he was thinking

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
41. I agree with that completely.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:46 PM
Apr 2016

I think Sanders was given poor advice and could have had a much better showing.

I still run into people who don't even know where he came from or who he is.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
7. Jane Sanders said on msnbc an hour ago this story is not true...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:07 PM
Apr 2016

There is no reassessment - and they are in til the convention.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
8. The news is based on direct quotes from Devine.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:14 PM
Apr 2016

I don't think he would lie about something like this. Jane Sanders seemed disturbed about it.

Could be a rift in the campaign staff.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
10. It will be interesting to see what happens in the next few days.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:25 PM
Apr 2016

My guess is that Devine wants to pull back and focus on campaigning on issues only and Sanders prefers full steam ahead.

But, who knows?

polichick

(37,152 posts)
12. Jane said that whatever happens the "revolution" goes on and...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:29 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie will lead it - I really don't see Clinton's "unity" happening; his voters want nothing to do with Clinton/corporate corruption.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
16. His most committed supporters are that way.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:41 PM
Apr 2016

But I'd wager that most of Bernie's supporters will vote for Clinton. DU is a bit of a bubble in that a large number of members are quite liberal. However, 70% of the Dem party are moderates and conservatives (so-called Blue dog Democrats). And I'd bet that most independents will in the end vote Clinton after they've had months of exposure to what Trump would be like as president.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
17. A lot of independents probably won't vote at all though...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:47 PM
Apr 2016

and there is a growing number who think a Trump victory might wipe out both establishments, and that it might be better in the long run. We'll see...

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
19. Wrong.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:51 PM
Apr 2016
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-most-important-poll-you-didn-t-see

Take all that together and you come away with pretty clear evidence that over the course of the Democratic primary young voters have become more attached to progressive politics and the Democratic party. One read of this is that the primary process itself - as divisive as it has sometimes seemed - has deepened young voters' identification with the Democratic party.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

polichick

(37,152 posts)
21. I don't know a single Bernie voter in real life who will vote for Hillary...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:56 PM
Apr 2016

or who wants anything to do with a party they've already left.

We'll have to wait and see what happens.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
47. Sooo...you'd desert our nominee?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:58 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary will not end the ACA, but I guarantee Trump or Cruz will.

Hillary is not going to end pro-choice rights, but I guarantee Trump or Cruz will.

Hillary is not going to appoint another Scalia, but I guarantee Trump or Cruz will.

I don't understand the hatred against Hillary. I'm a Hillary supporter, but I don't hate Bernie. I'd vote for him if he won the nomination, and I'd do it cheerfully.

So all of you who want to cut off your noses to spite your face, go ahead. Most Democratic voters will vote as mature adults and not as pouting children who didn't get their way.

Utterly appalled at what I've been reading here lately.

If Bernie has somehow influenced his supporters to act in this way - to threaten to vote Trump or not vote at all - then he has given our party an egregious insult. He was welcomed into the Democratic party, despite NEVER having been a Democrat; in fact, he has spoken AGAINST the Democratic party on occasion.

If Bernie Sanders is of the same mind as his supporters here on DU, then I say that is just shameful.

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
50. All this is why I find him so repugnant, and I will STILL vote for him if he gets the nomination. nt
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:10 PM
Apr 2016

Response to cwydro (Reply #47)

Response to polichick (Reply #12)

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
25. I didn't think she sounded disturbed
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:16 PM
Apr 2016

More like annoyed that such a question was posed to her. I thought it was a sincere and human reaction.

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
24. re: "this story is not true...There is no reassessment - and they are in til the convention."
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:11 PM
Apr 2016

There is no contradiction between JS and TD. Both say they are in til the convention. According to the text of the OP, TD is saying they may reassess exactly what they will be doing between now and the convention, but he is not suggesting they will not be in til the convention.

Yavin4

(35,441 posts)
23. IOW, they're running out of money. Blew it all in NY.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:00 PM
Apr 2016

CA won't be cheap, and it's over a month away.

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
49. Well that makes sense.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:07 PM
Apr 2016

A class is someplace where you learn, and you're learning all about delegate math this evening. So thank you.

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
59. And again, I'm called a paid shill
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:49 PM
Apr 2016

And yet cwydro keeps saying that people aren't calling me a paid shill. ooooo-k.

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
61. LOL.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:57 PM
Apr 2016

This is just tiresome. I'm basically just going to ignore anyone that whips out the paid shill thing, starting with cwydro and you.

Turin_C3PO

(14,004 posts)
40. Here's what I wish he would do.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:41 PM
Apr 2016

As a Bernie supporter in New Mexico, I want him to stay in the race until the end because I think every voter should have their say, even if it's symbolic. I would be opposed to Bernie contesting the convention because we need to be unified by then. After tonight I think he should basically lay off Clinton and just stick to his positive economic message and thwo in some jabs against Republicans while he's at it .

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
69. As a Hillary supporter, I basically agree with you.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:43 AM
Apr 2016

My only concern is money. I don't want Hillary to have to spend a lot of money to keep campaigning in the primary when that money could be used to defeat Trump in November.

Otherwise, I am in favour of Bernie staying in until the end, simply for the unifying factor. Sure, there will still be posters on DU claiming it's a fix, but most reasonable people will recognise that Bernie had every chance at a bite at the apple and just couldn't get the votes. That will help to unify the party for the GE.

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