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Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:25 PM Apr 2016

An Elaborate Hillary Clinton Facebook Conspiracy With Coordinated Attacks and Porn? No Just a Glitch

Users on Facebook, Reddit, and Twitter accused Hillary Clinton supporters—and one SuperPAC—of a coordinated attack to shut down Bernie Sanders fan pages. None of it was true.

<snip>

"Supporters of Bernie Sanders took to Facebook, Reddit, and Twitter late Monday night after five of their Facebook community pages—with tens of thousands of members—went dark the night before five Democratic party primaries.

Theories on Sanders’s primary subreddit and Facebook pages quickly popped up, accusing Hillary Clinton supporters of a coordinated effort to report the Sanders pages for threats of violence and child pornography until the pages went down.

Some news organizations appeared to back some of the theories. Paste Magazine headlined one story, “Clinton's Internet Supporters, Allegedly Using Pornography, Shut Down Bernie Sanders' Largest Facebook Groups in Coordinated Attack,” while USUnCut ran a story headlined, “Hillary Clinton Trolls Shut Down Pro-Bernie Sanders Facebook Groups.” Salon joined in, too, pointing to a “mystery over booted Bernie Sanders Facebook groups.”

“At least some of the attacks originated from a rival Facebook group of Clinton supporters, reports say,” the Salon story reads.

But Facebook—and now even the affected pro-Sanders groups themselves—say that the real problem was merely a database error that affected more pages than just Sanders-leaning community pages."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/26/an-elaborate-hillary-clinton-facebook-conspiracy-with-coordinated-attacks-and-porn-no-just-a-glitch.html
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An Elaborate Hillary Clinton Facebook Conspiracy With Coordinated Attacks and Porn? No Just a Glitch (Original Post) Scurrilous Apr 2016 OP
The child porn was a glitch? Oh, please. n/t djean111 Apr 2016 #1
Days of durm und strang leads to false accusations because it is a FaceBook screw up. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #2
A 'glitch' to which a Bro4Hillary confessed to. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #3
thedailybeast xloadiex Apr 2016 #4
Bros$Hillary has already confessed and apologized azurnoir Apr 2016 #5
Bullshit. Brock's group is denying "any involvement with the attacks" Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #6
What a co-incidence. . . what was it 7 or 8 Bernie sites go down and none of Hillary's pdsimdars Apr 2016 #48
Propaganda fail PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #7
They put child porn on Bernie Facebook pages! Punkingal Apr 2016 #8
It was one of those random glitches. Random glitches do that all the time. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #14
Of all of the absurd accusations, this is the funniest. displacedtexan Apr 2016 #9
I keep telling all the people that buy into these, that they shouldn't have any concerns for the GE. Lucinda Apr 2016 #12
Good to know you think child porn is funny. Punkingal Apr 2016 #13
I believe the senior Google coder and the Facebook engineer next door, thank you. displacedtexan Apr 2016 #20
Child porn was posted on the Facebook page. That is a fact. Punkingal Apr 2016 #21
"Last night, a former member by the name of Casey Champagne decided to engage in harassing behavior Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #23
Did you bother to read the article from the OP? displacedtexan Apr 2016 #24
Right. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #25
People for Bernie puffy socks Apr 2016 #33
"people for bernie" says one thing, other people are saying something else. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #36
not a conspiracy. The evidence is clear. Hillary people pretending to be Bernie people litlbilly Apr 2016 #28
I don't believe them because random glitches are NOT like that, that ALL the sites that went pdsimdars Apr 2016 #49
Nah, whats gonna be absurd is watching you guys backpedal and dissemble Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #18
How does one person constitute an elaborate Hillary supporter attack? puffy socks Apr 2016 #35
One person -admitted- it. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #37
Nothing is going to get in the way of a good Salon smear. Lucinda Apr 2016 #10
Why is brock's group "denying any involvement in the attacks"? Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #16
Of course the site that Chelsea Clinton sits on the board of is going to post this lie nt m-lekktor Apr 2016 #11
Quit making excuses for bad behavior & Child Porn! Kittycat Apr 2016 #15
and the night before some very important voting .... polly7 Apr 2016 #19
"Last night, a former member by the name of Casey Champagne decided to engage in harassing behavior Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #17
"i didn't know what was happening in those factories on the edge of town... islandmkl Apr 2016 #22
There was no Casey Champagne. Dr. Strange Apr 2016 #31
Heh... great reference. opiate69 Apr 2016 #51
seems to always be glitches following Hillary 2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #26
Your debunking is debunked. it comes from bias Daily Beast. Direct connections to Hillary via her litlbilly Apr 2016 #27
Yeah... northernsouthern Apr 2016 #29
excactly litlbilly Apr 2016 #32
It was clearly a technical issue, even while it was happening, for 2 reasons: ucrdem Apr 2016 #30
One process of shutting down a FB page is mass complaints. And yes, people Luminous Animal Apr 2016 #42
Complaints to whom? The moderators? They were shut out too. All at once. Then they weren't. ucrdem Apr 2016 #44
It triggers an algorithm. No human beings need to be involved. Luminous Animal Apr 2016 #45
No evidence that any of that happened. The groups disappeared, poof. Then came back. ucrdem Apr 2016 #46
I love it that you guys will defend anything these days. . . even child porn. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #50
But I read it 15 times on GD:P's front page Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2016 #34
Is that the truth number? 15? sounds about right. litlbilly Apr 2016 #40
This reeks of foreign-based Forchan trolling, annavictorious Apr 2016 #38
Yeah glitches like that happen to me all the time Kalidurga Apr 2016 #39
Clowns. nt ecstatic Apr 2016 #41
This is a really bogus CT Gothmog Apr 2016 #43
More: Scurrilous Apr 2016 #47

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
2. Days of durm und strang leads to false accusations because it is a FaceBook screw up.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:33 PM
Apr 2016

I am sure that we will see apologies.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
3. A 'glitch' to which a Bro4Hillary confessed to.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:37 PM
Apr 2016

And it would have taken several accomplices to generate the number of alerts.

xloadiex

(628 posts)
4. thedailybeast
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:38 PM
Apr 2016

where Chelsea sits on the board. Not to mention Zuckerberg is a Clinton supporter.

Just a glitch my ass.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
5. Bros$Hillary has already confessed and apologized
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:38 PM
Apr 2016

and Chelsea's beast counts for nothing as far as I'm concerned

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
48. What a co-incidence. . . what was it 7 or 8 Bernie sites go down and none of Hillary's
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:30 PM
Apr 2016

all within a short time span. . . I wonder what the odds would be on that happening all by itself . . . . . anyone called Vegas yet to find out?

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
8. They put child porn on Bernie Facebook pages!
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:44 PM
Apr 2016

Do you think that is excusable? CHILD PORNOGRAPHY. I hope the trace it and the person goes to jail for the porn.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
14. It was one of those random glitches. Random glitches do that all the time.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:51 PM
Apr 2016

Random glitches also confess to doing it, to the facebook pages of a rival political candidate.

You really shouldnt make such a big deal out of a "random glitch"

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
9. Of all of the absurd accusations, this is the funniest.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:46 PM
Apr 2016

All of my SF googler neighbors and friends are embarrassed that anyone would believe this was a Vast Clinton Conspiracy.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
12. I keep telling all the people that buy into these, that they shouldn't have any concerns for the GE.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:49 PM
Apr 2016

After all, if she can steal all these votes, blackmail almost all of congress to support her, control who all the newspapers endorse, and block out all opponent media coverage, the GE should be a cake walk.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
20. I believe the senior Google coder and the Facebook engineer next door, thank you.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:03 PM
Apr 2016

They really want this Bernie conspiracy crap to stop. They're beginning to think he's not in control of his campaign. Child porn, my Aunt Fannie.


The largest Facebook group affected, the verified “The People for Bernie Sanders” account, put out this statement early on Tuesday.

“We're aware many of the pro Bernie groups were removed from Facebook. They're back. It was a Facebook database error, not a conspiracy or an attack. Stay calm, phonebank, or get to a field office to win Tuesday,” the group wrote.



Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
23. "Last night, a former member by the name of Casey Champagne decided to engage in harassing behavior
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:23 PM
Apr 2016

Toward Facebook groups of Bernie Sanders and posted about it in the B4H Facebook group. As stated above, this was not promoted or supported by the leadership of B4H, nor were we immediately aware of this conduct. We removed the offending posts and member as soon as possible. While our leadership team of administrators tries to catch every questionable post and comment, with over 7,000 members and on a 24-hour posting cycle, some fall through the cracks. We rely on members to "flag and report" harmful, offensive, or trolling behavior, and apologize to the groups that were affected. This member acted on his own authority, is not apart of our leadership team, and does not represent our ideals or our opinions."

https://www.facebook.com/groups/bros4hillary/permalink/1740610886160594/

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
24. Did you bother to read the article from the OP?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:27 PM
Apr 2016

It covers the quote you cite and puts it in context. The facebook glitch was huge, not just Bernie groups.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
25. Right.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:30 PM
Apr 2016

I'm sure if there was no one deliberately spamming the sanders groups with porn to get them shut down, that truth will emerge.

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
28. not a conspiracy. The evidence is clear. Hillary people pretending to be Bernie people
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:38 PM
Apr 2016

wreaking havoc. paid for by Brock and tried to debunk using the Daily Beast. try again.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
49. I don't believe them because random glitches are NOT like that, that ALL the sites that went
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:33 PM
Apr 2016

down were Bernie's and none were Hillary's. Your Aunt Fannie!

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
35. How does one person constitute an elaborate Hillary supporter attack?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:53 PM
Apr 2016

He's a former member because they don't approve of this kind of behavior. Notice they didn't simply label him a Sanders campaign mole and blame the Sanders campaign for dirty tactics.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
37. One person -admitted- it.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:55 PM
Apr 2016

I suppose we could imagine that this is just some giant coincidence unrelated to the million dollars brock is spending on internet shenanigans, if "we" wanted to, couldn't we.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
16. Why is brock's group "denying any involvement in the attacks"?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:53 PM
Apr 2016

Why is there a statement on the "bros4hillary" page?

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
15. Quit making excuses for bad behavior & Child Porn!
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:53 PM
Apr 2016

It's disgusting. You should be out there disavowing the scumbag(s) who did it, and be calling for them to be prosecuted.

You're going to have to do better than that. Even HillBros had to release a statement about one of the shitbags involved.

Facebook has an automated system that shuts pages and users down when they've been overreported. The same thing happened last week to Election Justice USA in regards to over reporting.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
19. and the night before some very important voting ....
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:57 PM
Apr 2016

where people were sorting out voting sites, helping people get there, etc. Just yet another strange coincidence.

I read almost 400,000 members affected in those groups listed alone, let alone all those whose feeds they would have appeared on.

Dirty, dirty, dirty.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
17. "Last night, a former member by the name of Casey Champagne decided to engage in harassing behavior
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:55 PM
Apr 2016

Toward Facebook groups of Bernie Sanders and posted about it in the B4H Facebook group. As stated above, this was not promoted or supported by the leadership of B4H, nor were we immediately aware of this conduct. We removed the offending posts and member as soon as possible. While our leadership team of administrators tries to catch every questionable post and comment, with over 7,000 members and on a 24-hour posting cycle, some fall through the cracks. We rely on members to "flag and report" harmful, offensive, or trolling behavior, and apologize to the groups that were affected. This member acted on his own authority, is not apart of our leadership team, and does not represent our ideals or our opinions."

https://www.facebook.com/groups/bros4hillary/permalink/1740610886160594/

islandmkl

(5,275 posts)
22. "i didn't know what was happening in those factories on the edge of town...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:09 PM
Apr 2016

i just thought we were making a lot of jobs for the immigrants...
...sure took a lot of employees....those trains ran night and day..."

they don't know anything, but what they DO know, is that if they know anything it was an accident, a one-off aberration, nothing to do with them...

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
27. Your debunking is debunked. it comes from bias Daily Beast. Direct connections to Hillary via her
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:36 PM
Apr 2016

daughter.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
30. It was clearly a technical issue, even while it was happening, for 2 reasons:
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:39 PM
Apr 2016

1) It didn't just affect FB Bernie groups--the Photobucket pics in my signature also disappeared briefly, for example; and 2) if the pages were shut down for porn, there would have been some kind of a process, and the mods at least would have been notified.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
42. One process of shutting down a FB page is mass complaints. And yes, people
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:19 PM
Apr 2016

were logging multiple complaints including Bernie supporters.

The images posted were vile and disgusting.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
44. Complaints to whom? The moderators? They were shut out too. All at once. Then they weren't.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:27 PM
Apr 2016

It was obviously a glitch and the conspiracy theories sound like a Borowitz column gone viral.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
45. It triggers an algorithm. No human beings need to be involved.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:40 PM
Apr 2016

When a page receives a glut of complaints, it is shut down pending investigation.

Some of the images were so disgusting and they were being posted so quickly that the hosts could not pull them down fast enough, and also lodged complaints with Facebook..

That is; hosts of Bernie groups had to be complicit in shutting down there own sites because they could not keep up with deleting vile disgusting images... some images appeared to include child porn.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
46. No evidence that any of that happened. The groups disappeared, poof. Then came back.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:44 PM
Apr 2016

Like DU does from time to time, except the admins here step up and put out explanations instead of hiding behind preposterous conspiracy theories.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
50. I love it that you guys will defend anything these days. . . even child porn.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:36 PM
Apr 2016

I am sure glad I don't have to defend child porn for Bernie. I wonder how people get to the point in their lives where they are defending child porn? Sad day.

 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
38. This reeks of foreign-based Forchan trolling,
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:56 PM
Apr 2016

and there have been a surprising number of overseas Trollz 4 Bernie, many of whom operate through sham Facebook accounts.
(There's also been some foreign virtual phonebanking that seems to go beyond Americans abroad.)

I wonder how many of these "activists" have generated multiple $27 donations. Weren't there questions a few weeks ago about foreign money coming into the Sanders campaign?

This kind of stuff never fools anyone. Hopefully the miscreants will get caught.

[link:https://www.google.com/search?q=sanders+and+foreign+donations&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8|

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
47. More:
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:46 PM
Apr 2016
Bernie Sanders Facebook Groups Controversy

The purported simultaneous disappearance of multiple Bernie Sanders Facebook groups caused a rash of rumors, but the groups quickly returned.

<snip>

On 26 April 2016, digital and social media manager for the Sanders campaign Aiden King addressed the rumors on the campaign's official Slack channel:

According to Aiden King, the digital and social media manager for Sanders' campaign, the groups' closures was the result of a bug that affected many Facebook groups, not just pro-Bernie Sanders groups.

"All of the groups are back up and it wasn't just Bernie groups," King shared on the ConnectWithBernie slackchat. "Facebook hasn't released a public statement but they had a bug and it closed a ton of Facebook groups. Our supporters are just more vocal so the internet blew up with 'Bernie groups being shut down' rather than 'Facebook groups are being shut down."

http://www.snopes.com/2016/04/26/bernie-sanders-facebook-groups-controversy/
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