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BS supporters accused of posting multiple threads about Hillary shutting down BS groups on Facebook (Original Post) trumad Apr 2016 OP
K&R NCTraveler Apr 2016 #1
Yeah it seems like an obvious strategy at this point for rw dirty tricks. ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #9
Why would Brock lay down a million dollars to stir up shit on the internet, if she has it so sewn up Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #15
You never know.. but your point about RW trying to stir up s*** is well taken. Baobab Apr 2016 #16
A lot actually. Chan790 Apr 2016 #18
K&R for the truth SharonClark Apr 2016 #2
While I approve in theory, is it okay to perhaps start agreeing to either call Bernie.. moriah Apr 2016 #3
LOL trumad Apr 2016 #4
We replied at the same time. grossproffit Apr 2016 #6
I think BS is okay but BS(ers) is not. grossproffit Apr 2016 #5
Sometimes I find myself using HRH, which means "Her Royal Highness" to Brits Baobab Apr 2016 #10
So I hope you would have approved of.... moriah Apr 2016 #22
BHO always makes me think of "Browser Helper Object" which is something malwarebytes flags Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #14
Yeah, still, though, don't feel right calling a Dem candidate "BS". moriah Apr 2016 #23
Yeah, in the grand scheme of things BHO doesn't bother me much, given the tradition of referring to Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #25
I want to believe Trumad was dealing with short title length issues. Nt moriah Apr 2016 #26
So to speak Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #27
You know what I mean. I want to believe the best of all our long-term posters. moriah Apr 2016 #28
I do. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #29
Makes ya wonder about those hundreds of recs DU Bernie threads used to get. ucrdem Apr 2016 #7
I hadn't noticed Dem2 Apr 2016 #8
Go Bernie liberal from boston Apr 2016 #11
Understand, though, that as an unfolding event.... moriah Apr 2016 #24
Hillbots indict Berners for blaming Hillbots for kicking Berners for having the best Candidate! CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #12
It's why God created "trash thread" on the eighth day.nt sufrommich Apr 2016 #13
That whole saga is suspect. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #17
Bwahahaha!! JoePhilly Apr 2016 #19
There are also multiple reports that Hillary SUPPORTERS shut down Bernie Facebook groups... Luminous Animal Apr 2016 #20
You know matt819 Apr 2016 #21
Seldom agree with you. But you're right on this one. cwydro Apr 2016 #30

ContinentalOp

(5,356 posts)
9. Yeah it seems like an obvious strategy at this point for rw dirty tricks.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:52 PM
Apr 2016

Since Sanders has very little chance of winning the nomination anymore, they have shifted from secretly supporting him to trying to stir up as much bad blood as possible between his supporters and the Clinton campaign. Clinton would have absolutely no reason to pull the things they're accusing her of since she's winning anyway. What do they think she would gain by shutting down a few Bernie Facebook groups at this point in the race?

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
16. You never know.. but your point about RW trying to stir up s*** is well taken.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:06 PM
Apr 2016

HRC supporters may also end up voting for Bernie.

I cant see any areas where that would be a negative outcome for them and can see some big areas where it would mean much better outcomes for them.

I mean hundreds of thousands of dollars better!

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
18. A lot actually.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:11 PM
Apr 2016

There are 5 primary races today...3 of which (Delaware, Maryland, and Pennsylvania) have been only loosely-polled (They've been long assumed to be solidly in the Clinton basket) and a 4th (Connecticut) in which changes in the circumstances on the ground over the past week may or may not have had a sea-change effect. (Our widely-disliked Democratic governor reaffirmed his endorsement of Clinton one day before releasing the pink-slips of some 15,000 state employees to be laid-off so he can avoid further raising taxes on wealthy residents and businesses. Part of this involved necessarily reneging on union contracts. To say this has harmed opinions of Clinton would be accurate (guilt by association; we heard it in in-person interviews on the news from polling places around the state)...but has it hurt her votes? )

If Sanders were to decisively win 3 or 4 of them, it probably reverses the "It's pretty much over" narrative from last week following NY and keeps the race more-open going all the way to "Super June" 7th.

So, I'm not accusing the Clinton camp of anything...this seems more like the juvenile efforts of non-affiliated partisans (This seems less like something adults would do and more like "H4X0|~ 9i9th-graders 4 Clinton" or "random Facebook assholes for Clinton.&quot ...but they would potentially benefit from this action.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
3. While I approve in theory, is it okay to perhaps start agreeing to either call Bernie..
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:44 PM
Apr 2016

SBS (Senator Bernie Sanders), or something else, other than BS?

I didn't particularly like the "BHO" for Obama because it seemed like it was used to be racist about his middle name, but calling him BO wasn't exactly kind either, so I dealt.

Just to be nice?

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
10. Sometimes I find myself using HRH, which means "Her Royal Highness" to Brits
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:55 PM
Apr 2016

its a commonly used abbreviation for the British Queen.

I used to have a tendency to use Brit expressions a lot when it seems appropriate. Its fading away now but I still find myself doing it on occasion.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
22. So I hope you would have approved of....
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:47 PM
Apr 2016

... my suggestion for anyone in 2008 defending the fact "to call a spade a spade" as an idiom had a far longer history than European enslavement of Africans was to use, instead:

"Call a spade a bloody shovel"....

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
14. BHO always makes me think of "Browser Helper Object" which is something malwarebytes flags
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:01 PM
Apr 2016

But I suppose some of our bigger cannabis enthusiasts up here think of Butane Hash Oil.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
23. Yeah, still, though, don't feel right calling a Dem candidate "BS".
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:57 PM
Apr 2016

I may be a Hillary supporter, but I have been hopeful for civility, and the best way to make it happen is lead by example.

I agree BSer is wrong, too, just still feeling like showing a bit more respect. And Wiki doesn't even have his middle name showing right now thwt I can find....

Oh well.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
25. Yeah, in the grand scheme of things BHO doesn't bother me much, given the tradition of referring to
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:10 PM
Apr 2016

Presidents in that fashion, or at least the ones we like.

BS, I agree, is deliberate, but there's a lot of low level neener neener bullshit- from both sides. I support your call for civility and echo it.

I generally refer to Hillary Clinton as "Hillary Clinton" or "HRC" or "Secretary Clinton" or maybe "Hillary" for short. I don't think I've resorted to name-calling at her in that fashion.



moriah

(8,311 posts)
28. You know what I mean. I want to believe the best of all our long-term posters.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:27 PM
Apr 2016

We usually say "Hillary and Bernie", and there might just not have been enough room in the title.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
7. Makes ya wonder about those hundreds of recs DU Bernie threads used to get.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:47 PM
Apr 2016

Who are those people, and why do they hate the Clintons with the heat of a thousand suns?

11. Go Bernie
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:57 PM
Apr 2016

Stop the lying--shame on you. Paragraph from link below: Erica Libenow, a Sanders supporter and member of one of the pro-Bernie groups, said, “We had what looked like a kiddie porn posted in one of our groups today. I reported that one. Seriously made me want to vomit.”



http://usuncut.com/politics/bernie-facebook-groups-trolled/

moriah

(8,311 posts)
24. Understand, though, that as an unfolding event....
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:07 PM
Apr 2016

.... that immediately blaming this on actual Hillary supporters (or, as many articles and posts have, David Brock, Correct The Record, and Hillary herself) is perhaps premature.

Here's the statement from the group naming who they think actually was the one to start this appalling event.

http://www.bros4hillary.com/statement-from-b4h-leadership/

Last night, a former member by the name of Casey Champagne decided to engage in harassing behavior toward Facebook groups of Bernie Sanders and posted about it in the B4H Facebook group. As stated above, this was not promoted or supported by the leadership of B4H, nor were we immediately aware of this conduct. We removed the offending posts and member as soon as possible. While our leadership team of administrators tries to catch every questionable post and comment, with over 7,000 members and on a 24-hour posting cycle, some fall through the cracks. We rely on members to “flag and report” harmful, offensive, or trolling behavior, and apologize to the groups that were affected. This member acted on his own authority, is not a part of our leadership team, and does not represent our ideals or our opinions.


I would also ask you -- who actually has anything to gain by creating this infighting? Certainly not Hillary.

Just my opinion, though.
 

CentralCoaster

(1,163 posts)
12. Hillbots indict Berners for blaming Hillbots for kicking Berners for having the best Candidate!
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:59 PM
Apr 2016

News at 7:00!

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
20. There are also multiple reports that Hillary SUPPORTERS shut down Bernie Facebook groups...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:12 PM
Apr 2016

Which is true.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
21. You know
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:43 PM
Apr 2016

It should be relatively easy for Facebook to track who did what, and when. It certainly seems they anything goes, and now that that trigger has been pulled there's no telling how this cyber warfare plays out.

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